What to bring from South and Southeast Asia

As far as I know, India is a very unfavorable place for illegal fishing and export. At one time, I signed petitions in defense of a professional entomologist who was detained while collecting material of no commercial value. I recommend Thailand or Malaysia (from the available list).

Then Thailand. Although the word "affordable" does not apply to either India or Thailand! It's too expensive.
What time to go there and where? Although "where" is probably not very relevant, because the cost of the trip is responsible for this question.

I have been to Thailand for a long time and only in two places: Khao Yai National Park and Chang Island. There are a lot of people on the forum who can tell you much more than I can. I hope they will advise you.

Better rename the topic: "where is the best place to collect in South and Southeast Asia".

This post was edited by Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg - 08/31/2012 22: 13

Thank you for renaming it.
I looked up prices for a trip to Thailand. It's just a kick-ass. Immediately, even the horse did not want to go...

Did you watch the tour or the tickets? In my experience, travel agencies strongly raise prices. If you go yourself or buy a tour already in Bangkok, then everything is much cheaper.

Thank you for renaming it.
I looked up prices for a trip to Thailand. It's just a kick-ass. Immediately, even the horse did not want to go...

See not tours, but tickets.
Or, as an option, a tour to the cheapest hotel (1* or tour class) - sometimes this way you can get very cheap charter tickets.

Accommodation is rented on the spot, in guesthouses and small hotels.

"Exotic" ways of recreation, of course, are good and cheap, but when you, for example, speak English.
Arrived where to go-xs. And they fly from Perm only with purchased tours. From 38 rubles. I can't afford that. India was cheaper, you can meet 30, so I thought about it.

This post was edited by alex017 - 02.09.2012 12: 37

Cool you have there in Perm. India is cheaper than Thailand. And the price is kind of unhealthy, IMHO.

Yes, some basic English is needed. On the other hand, they don't speak English in the provinces. When we were in Thailand, a tour from local operators could be purchased directly at the airport. At the exit there is a special hall where you should show interest, as you will immediately begin to "persuade and agitate". We didn't buy any tours, we traveled by bus, less often by taxi, and we also looked for hotels ourselves.

Important - you need to buy a detailed bilingual map of Thailand: in English for you and in Thai for them. At the bus station, you go to the ticket office and point your finger at the place on the map where you need to go. In response, you are shown the price on the calculator and shown, and sometimes taken by the hand, to the desired bus.

I feel like I'm completely wrong)) Do you think I'll go somewhere else? At least I can climb the area around the hotel within 10 km. That is, I am interested in accommodation. And food, of course. It is not clear what, where and how. What is elementary to take in their eateries is not clear with their inconvenient one-breakfast system.

In Southeast Asia and other places, the difference between an independent trip and a tour may not even be on interest, but at times-local residents honestly believe that farangs don't care how much to pay, and they stick out from the heart, plus our travel agencies are also not inclined to philanthropy, especially in the season. If you are satisfied with something less than 5 stars, then overpaying hardly makes sense.

For the first time on the "exotic" - IMHO, it's better than Ty can not be found. The choice of flights, loyal natives, spread by climate (if you want a bath and the sea - in the lowlands, if you want freshness and serpentines - in the mountains), normal transport connectivity, diverse landscapes, a lot of animals...

When to go-see either the desired season, or cheap tickets. The first is what you need; the second, for example, is now. In general, summer and autumn - the rainy season and the very beginning of the dry season - flights are cheap, because the main tour runs there in the driest season.

Actually, in Tae, in principle, with a minimum of English, there are no more problems. But I know people who have had a great ride and still drive in his complete absence-purely due to personal contact and positivity
Tours, IMHO, are needed either for the first time, or for very stupid and lazy people-Thais themselves are very hospitable and actively help farangs, especially in the provinces. First, just look at the maps and understand where you want to go - from here and plan your route.
In the jungle for the first time it is better not to climb too much, tigers and mad elephants are difficult to meet, but leeches, thorns and mosquitoes will not spare you. Take a walk along the paths, take a look, spend the night in a guesthouse - and next time you will pick up your equipment and feel more confident.

India is not a very simple country. The Indians themselves are very friendly and hospitable, especially if you understand their rules and behave carefully. But their authorities in general and law enforcement and security agencies in particular are often completely unpredictable and insane...
You can sometimes take out an elephant, but my friend almost rattled in jail because of a lizard that independently and unauthorized climbed into the pocket of a backpack - it took an hour for very unpleasant negotiations, then they fished out some superintendent who decided to have mercy.
There are awesome areas like Assam or Kashmir, where in principle it is dumb to go-or shoot, or areas that are closed to the public for other reasons. But in any case, it is better to go there either not alone, or already having experience.

This post was edited by headshotboy - 02.09.2012 13: 37

Important - you need to buy a detailed bilingual map of Thailand: in English for you and in Thai for them.

Already available in three languages, Thai-English-russian

"Exotic" ways of recreation, of course, are good and cheap, but when you, for example, speak English.

I feel like I'm completely wrong)) Do you think I'll go somewhere else? At least I can climb the area around the hotel within 10 km.

Well, then - save your money

I feel like I'm completely wrong)) Do you think I'll go somewhere else? At least I can climb the area around the hotel within 10 km. That is, I am interested in accommodation. And food, of course. It is not clear what, where and how. What is elementary to take in their eateries is not clear with their inconvenient one-breakfast system.

There will definitely be no problems with food in Thailand. Even if you don't know English at all. Everything is very cheap, in the resort area (you don't seem to be planning to leave it) the menu is in Thai, English and Russian. In addition, the menu is usually with pictures. Prices are always shown on the calculator. Well, if it's really scary to eat unfamiliar dishes, then there are a lot of pizzerias and McDonald's analogues in the resort area. I hope that even if you don't know English at all, you can say "hamburger and cola" or "pizza". However, in the resort area recently, Thais are actively learning Russian. Don't worry, headshotboy is absolutely right, Thailand is the best option for your first trip to Southeast Asia, and Thais are usually friendly to tourists.

IMHO, just in the resort area, everything is much more expensive. I went to the local market for fruit, compared to the resort area, everything is much cheaper. At the same time, I have no doubt that I paid more than the locals. However, this is already for lovers of exotics, there is very little economic sense in such trips.

IMHO, just in the resort area, everything is much more expensive. I went to the local market for fruit, compared to the resort area, everything is much cheaper. At the same time, I have no doubt that I paid more than the locals. However, this is already for lovers of exotics, there is very little economic sense in such hikes.

Not, well, if you go to a pub on Volkin Street or Second Road, then of course it's not very cheap, but if you go 300 meters from the beach in Jomtien, then you can eat very cheap

With food - there are no problems at all.
In the resort area, everything is really more expensive, and very significantly more expensive, but the prices themselves are more than low - well, whether there is a difference in buying one meal for 10 bucks in a tavern for farangs or for 2 bucks in one for local people, I do not know; for me - no.
Another thing is that in the resort area, the menu and the dishes themselves are adapted to the tastes of visitors - Thai cuisine itself is very spicy and very sweet, not everyone will like it.

It is convenient to search for tickets, for example, via http://www.cheaptrip.ru - a well-known and generally useful resource. Just keep in mind that the most interesting offers are in the "sit down and go" mode, it is impossible to predict the appearance of very cheap tickets in advance.

Also interested in possible problems: what to be afraid of, for example.

In turzon - the same as in any other similar places - petty crime: thieves and crooks. Teenagers on motorbikes are active, snatching bags out of their hands.
They can get drunk in pubs, they can plant drugs and blackmail the police - well, don't go into dumb pubs, don't make friends with all sorts of evil spirits, don't let your guard down, don't get drunk on white butterflies...

Outside the tour zone, IMHO, there is almost nothing - except for natural hazards. Do not throw money around, do not pretend to be a cool colonizer, do not harass the locals... Read the Internet before your trip-there are countless materials about the rules of behavior in Tae, these rules themselves are, in general, simple, easy to follow and understandable to any sane person.

In general, purely on a personal feeling, to run into trouble in Tae, you need to make an effort - this is a serious difference from our country, where you can rake in completely out of the blue. There it is necessary to rudely paw local girls on the street, drunk bull at the aborigines, bawdiness in temples, etc. - IMHO, for a normal person, all this in itself is not very relevant.

  

In general, purely on a personal feeling, to run into trouble in Tae, you need to make an effort - this is a serious difference from our country, where you can rake in completely out of the blue. There it is necessary to rudely paw local girls on the street, drunk bull at the aborigines, bawdiness in temples, etc. - IMHO, for a normal person, all this in itself is not very relevant.

Exactly the same impression. You have to try really hard to get into trouble.

With food - there are no problems at all.
In the resort area, everything is really more expensive, and very significantly more expensive, but the prices themselves are more than low - well, whether there is a difference in buying one meal for 10 bucks in a tavern for farangs or for 2 bucks in one for local people, I do not know; for me - no.
Another thing is that in the resort area, the menu and the dishes themselves are adapted to the tastes of visitors - Thai cuisine itself is very spicy and very sweet, not everyone will like it.

In local establishments, there is often no "know spice"option. This food is rich for me. But if you are not lazy and deviate from the main tourist "trails" for 200-300 meters, then in the very center of the tourist zone you can find quite a lot of very inexpensive (by St. Petersburg standards) cafes with cuisine focused on the European tourist. It is quite possible to eat enough for 100 rubles (without alcohol).

The main thing is not to bring anything from there.

"you need to protect yourself."

Real dangers 2: diseases of dirty hands and blood-sucking arthropods.

1. Ruki is mine! Fly-beat! You will be healthy! Wash your hands, it is advisable to stock up on some kind of disinfectant solution (like chlorhexidine) and wipes for wiping your hands. Eat the food that has just been prepared, i.e. you have seen how it was heat treated. In any case, not the dishes that were carried around the market for an unknown amount of time. In a southern climate, just an hour or two is enough for the product to pass into the "second freshness" stage, not to mention the flies and the hands of the seller. Drink bottled or boiled water only. Ice is made, and then put in drinks, usually from unboiled water. Wash fruits or eat those that have a peel. Remember that when cleaning fruit with dirty hands, it is easy to contaminate its contents.

2. The greatest danger is posed by mosquitoes. Sleep only under a canopy or, in air-conditioned hotels, make sure that all windows and doors are tightly closed. Use reppelents. In dangerous places, you need to take antimalarial drugs. In fact, most resorts, especially on the seashore, are relatively safe. "In the field" ticks are relevant, which also tolerate all sorts of nasty things - use reppelents.

First of all, thank you so much!
Cool colonizer of me will not work))
Alcohol and debauchery are not planned (I do not use it).
By problems, I just meant dangerous diseases and other "charms".
The requirements for the hotel are very minimal, i.e. a bed and hot water. What are some excesses for if you don't use them?
"I'm not used to snacking, so market porters aren't for me.
In the cafe, of course, I will order hot food, but how fresh it is can only be determined after eating((
Even in Turkey, I drink only personally bought bottled water (which always causes misunderstanding).
I usually wash my hands. Soap is the main household waste! Shyutka))))

Such caution with mosquitoes causes some confusion... You can't hide from them. I know from our "tundra".
What are antimalarial medications? Stock up is worth it....
What is the risk of sleeping without air conditioning?? I don't usually use it......
Against ticks, as I understand it, only special clothing protects...or did the technique still go ahead? And then I caught this happiness in Turkey and a few days of temperature, the loss of a week of vacation at least.

What is chlorhexidine and where to get it?

And the leeches...where are they attacking from? I'm not going to climb strange bodies of water...

As for corals...I just said that in case they get caught. Shellfish-strombuses, "turbans"; small hermits and hedgehogs; ophiurki....

  
And the leeches...where are they attacking from? I'm not going to climb strange bodies of water...

This refers to just land leeches. Humidity, however: http://vtropiki.com/nature/animals/leech

I have a slightly different experience from visiting the surrounding area of Bang Kok (working at one of the universities).

First of all, English is only known around universities, and taxi drivers no longer understood a single word.

Secondly, as the locals explained to me, you should always ask if the restaurant is designed for foreigners (restaurants will always answer this question!) or only for locals. They have adapted stomachs, and visitors easily catch diarrhea (diarrhea).

But with the fruit, washed of course in the hotel, I had no problems.
People there are not bad, if they understand, they will always help.
I ate at a veggie restaurant, and it was very tight for one pupaar. When the owner noticed that I liked to eat there, he reduced the price by 5 percent every day and always refused tips. The food is wonderful and famous for its taste.

Leeches and their method of attack are certainly terrible...

Leeches and their method of attack are certainly terrible...

Leeches just do not tolerate ANYTHING, against the background of everything else - cute creatures.

First of all, thank you so much!
Cool colonizer of me will not work))
Alcohol and debauchery are not planned (I do not use it).

Envy. I just do not use strong alcohol "in peacetime" practically, but in the field for disinfection/adaptation it is quite possible.

By problems, I just meant dangerous diseases and other "charms".
The requirements for the hotel are very minimal, i.e. a bed and hot water. What are some excesses for if you don't use them?

Hot water in cheap hotels is problematic. On the other hand, it's warm.

I am not used to" snacking", so market porters are not for me.
In the cafe, I will certainly order hot food, but how fresh it is can only be determined after eating((

Noodle soup is cheap and delicious.

Such caution with mosquitoes causes some confusion... You can't hide from them. I know from our "tundra".

There are few mosquitoes in the tropics.

What are antimalarial medications? Stock up is worth it....
Setting aside any preconceptions , the doctor should advise med. drugs, etc.: we have only one available drug - lariam. it is also a standard drug for the prevention/treatment of malaria in Southeast Asia.

What is the risk of sleeping without air conditioning?? I don't usually use it......

I was referring to the fact that air - conditioned rooms usually do not have mosquito nets-they are not needed, because there is no need to ventilate the room.

Against ticks, as I understand it, only special clothing protects...or did the technique still go ahead? And then I caught this happiness in Turkey and a few days of temperature, the loss of a week of vacation at least.

No, reppelents work perfectly.

What is chlorhexidine and where to get it?

In pharmacies. This is a remedy for the prevention of STDs (sexually transmitted diseases

And which repellents are more effective against ticks?

Discarding prejudice...I wouldn't even have to live))) I was treated almost always by myself, because after the doctors took over everything ended badly, so I ask to be prepared. Is this Lariam freely available?

Noodle soup is fine))

But hot water is still necessary...

My adaptation is not going well (the rest of us think it's great, because all the adaptation is about constant sleep, it's just incredibly difficult to wake up and force yourself to leave the hotel).

And which repellents are more effective against ticks?

I don't know what works against the ticks there. I used to use DETA, but now I don't even know if they produce it yet. Deta even warded off leeches.

Discarding prejudice...I wouldn't even have to live))) I was treated almost always by myself, because after the doctors took over everything ended badly, so I ask to be prepared. Is this Lariam freely available?

Yes, it is sold freely, but it is not available everywhere (in St. Petersburg).

My adaptation is not going well (the rest of us think it's great, because all the adaptation is about constant sleep, it's just incredibly difficult to wake up and force yourself to leave the hotel).

Far from the worst option. After long and heavy flights, I also get a long sleep. I can't sleep on a plane-I guess it's just my face.

Lariam (mefloquine) has a bad effect on the liver, depresses the nervous system and much more. Read the instructions and see if there are any contraindications for you personally, if your health is not very good. There is also malaron, which does not have such side effects, but is sold abroad, and it is imported to us (in Moscow) for a very expensive price.
Yandex.

Lariam (mefloquine) has a bad effect on the liver, depresses the nervous system and much more. Read the instructions and see if there are any contraindications for you personally, if your health is not very good.

Yes, of course. Why, in fact, you can not just recommend medications.

There is also malaron, which does not have such side effects, but is sold abroad, and it is imported to us (in Moscow) for a very expensive price.
Gardex works well against ticks.

I know - " lariam is pop, and malaron is for cool guys." Most recently, the entire expedition went to bed, with the exception of one person, who was just receiving lariam.

Seriously, I'll try to consult a specialist. But the specialist himself (kmn, infectious diseases specialist, extensive experience in the tropics) advised me just lariam.

I will be interested in his opinion about malarone - whether it is as harmless as advertised and how it protects against malaria. Lariam took himself in the tropics a couple of times-protects perfectly, but the bitch is harmful

Mefloquine, which is lariam, was also recommended to me in IMPiTMa...

So that the bottom breaks less often and less, you can eat probiotics-start a week or two before the trip, continue on the trip. They don't take up any space, they don't weigh anything, but they work well.

As an option, go for the first time in the dry season. No ticks or leeches. Significantly fewer mosquitoes. Budget in Tae on a ticket - only Pattaya. But there's a solid urban 2-hour drive around. It is better to go straight from Thay to Cambodia or Laos. There the places are still wild, and the cost of accommodation and food is many times cheaper than in Tae. You can get to the Thai-Khmer border (Aranyaprattet) for 300 rubles from South Big Sea in Pattaya. Visa 20 buck. From Poipet to Siem Reap (where Angkor is). You can find a hotel starting from $ 6 with breakfast and air conditioning. Wild places are everywhere outside the city. However, you will have to buy a ticket to visit the temples. Very good locations in Bantlaysray and Kbalspean (approximately 20-30 km from the city). Really wild places. If you get tired of climbing in the jungle, go to Suanoukville by the sea. Buses from Siem Reap-sea. The price is 12 bucks. From there you can return to Pattay

Here you will listen to you..... and you will go back to Turkey, where at least something is familiar and acceptable for money.
It's just that my goal is photographing, getting impressions, taking out a tiny part of what I saw, probably for the sake of a couple of exported species, you shouldn't go there with such difficulties and cost.....
Personally, I can't imagine how you can travel around the country alone without knowing the language.
With a manager in a travel agency in a normal relationship, can pick up a cheaper tour to some more or less normal place in Tae, please advise what to focus it on?
Thank you all!

It's just that my goal is photographing, getting impressions, taking out a small part of what I saw, probably for the sake of a couple of exported views, it's not worth going there with such difficulties and cost.....

My travel goals are exactly the same.
The issue of cost is a purely personal matter.
As for the difficulties-see how many diverse rabble, who only knows how to drink and lie on the beach, goes to Tai - and admire your own versatile talent and ability to adapt

With a manager in a travel agency in a normal relationship, can pick up a cheaper tour to some more or less normal place in Tae, please advise what to focus it on?
Thank you all!

North of the country. Chiang Mai Province, Chiang Rai

Here's what's on Pegasus ' website:
HUA HIN
KHAO LAK
KOH CHANG
KOH PHA NGAN
KOH SAMET
KOH SAMUI
KRABI
PATTAYA
PHUKET
RAYONG

Сайт корала:
Bangkok
Pattaya
Central Pattaya
Jomtien
Mountain Hill
Na Jomtien
Naklua
North Pattaya
Pattaya
Pattaya Beach
South Pattaya
Samui
Bang Rak Beach
Bo Phut
Chaweng
Choeng Mon
Coral Cove
Laem Set
Lamai Beach
Lipa Noi
Mae Nam
Natien Beach
Samui
Taling Ngam
Tongsay bay

Анекс:
KOH CHANG KOH CHANG
KRABI KRABI
PATTAYA PATTAYA
PHUKET KHAO LAK PHI PHI ISLANDS PHUKET
SAMUI SAMUI

This post was edited by alex017 - 05.09.2012 08: 38

Here's what's on the Pegasus website::

I have already written that the ticket is cheap-only Pattaya (in January of this year, I spent 15 days with a flight and accommodation for three days in Jomtien with breakfast came out 23,000). The remaining seats will be at least 40. So there are no options here.

Well, that means it's invariant-free.