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10.07.2006 17:42, Dmitrii Musolin

A very strange diagnosis she made....... Not ants, judging by the photo.

IN principle, wild ants (about Pharaoh - domestic - I don't know exactly) have winged individuals, but they rarely appear (once a year?) and massively. To make them jump-it's strange to me... Mating behavior in young is - - - young are newly-winged adults, not undergrowths.

In general, I think it's not ants. And this lady is a strange entomologist...

10.07.2006 19:18, guest: Дзанат

the English scientist replied that it
was Dorypteryx domestica, here is a photo http://www.pbase.com/holopain/image/39275817 smile.gif

10.07.2006 22:15, Bad Den

Today I received an answer from an entomologist from the Eyrisman Institute of Hygiene. She did some tests, compared them from old books, and said umnik.gifthat they were a brood of young ants that didn't have chitinous skin yet and still had wings. And the fact that they jump is their mating dances, since all winged individuals are females (although they jump when they are afraid that they will be crushed, and they crawl chaotically and singly smile.gif)

Lj0t entomologist from the Research Institute, lj0t for all 100 smile.gif mol.gif confused.gif
Yeah... My trust in this research institute has been undermined
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10.07.2006 22:59, Shofffer

Today I received an answer from an entomologist from the Eyrisman Institute of Hygiene. She did some tests, compared them from old books, and said umnik.gifthat they were a brood of young ants that didn't have chitinous skin yet and still had wings.

EEEEEEE... Not a weak diagnosis. From myself, I will add that the photo is definitely a hay eater.

11.07.2006 8:13, Nilson

Today I received an answer from an entomologist from the Eyrisman Institute of Hygiene. She did some tests, compared them from old books, and said umnik.gifthat they were a brood of young ants that didn't have chitinous skin yet and still had wings.

However, you must have been played! There is no question of any ants, although for hygienists, it may still be smile.gif

11.07.2006 15:31, guest: tess

What's the draw? They gave me an official paper for the disinfection service with signatures and seals stating that this is a brood of ants. umnik.gif

Thank you for the link to the photo of this hay eater. Mine is similar, only the wings are shorter, probably not grown yet. smile.gif

11.07.2006 15:51, Bad Den

Now you are with this paper and samples - to the Moscow State University Zoo Museum, so that they give out another paper that these are hay eaters smile.gif
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11.07.2006 15:54, Tigran Oganesov

What's the draw? They gave me an official paper for the disinfection service with signatures and seals stating that this is a brood of ants. umnik.gif

Amateurs mad.gif

13.07.2006 21:45, guest: Lena

Please help me too.
We bought an apartment, did repairs (although the house is old, 25-30 years old), but sometimes at home (1-2 times a month) we find the following insects::
user posted image
We always find them in the room on the wallpaper, closer to the ceiling. We find 1 piece at a time, immediately large (2-3 cm in length)
I do not know who it is, what to do with them, because it seems like they do not live with us, well, they are very creepy. They run very fast.
There are 2 suspicions:
1) climb from the balcony (?), and there is no one knows where they can appear
2) from the entrance (?)

The main thing is a small child at home. As soon as I see these "creatures", then I'm afraid to leave him in the crib alone to sleep, and I can't sleep well myself.
Tell me what they are, how dangerous they are, and how to deal with them. Thank you for your help.

13.07.2006 22:04, Wolf

http://www.darwin.museum.ru/expos/floor3/moscow/4_2_2.htm
They are not terrible inside, although they may seem unpleasant to someone from the outside.

13.07.2006 22:05, taler

This can be dangerous for the baby.The animal is poisonous.Something from centipedes.Where are you living?

13.07.2006 22:12, Wolf

If not in the south , it's not poisonous. In the south, there may really be centipedes.

13.07.2006 22:13, taler

. coleoptrata is probably native to the Mediterranean region, but the range of the species has also spread here - in the Crimea and the Caucasus, and in Southern Europe, Central Asia, India, and North America (in the southern part of the United States and Mexico).

Scutigera is a very fast runner, and it is very difficult to catch it carefully, without damage. She has very good eyesight, and this, together with her speed, makes her a very effective hunter. Flycatchers can be seen on the walls of buildings, where they hunt flies, crickets and other insects with amazing speed. Flycatchers have a peculiar way of moving - after running a short distance, it suddenly stops and, as if laying down comfortably, freezes, only to then quickly take off again. It's very funny to watch this.

The flycatcher looks very unusual. Its body, consisting of 7 segments, reaches a length of 2.5-4 cm, it is as if "pubescent" from the sides with long, thin 15 pairs of legs, which increase in length from the head to the back of the body. In females, the last pair of legs is twice as long as the body. Under the eyes - a pair of antennae-antennae, also very long. Because of this "framing", the centipede looks much larger. The body color ranges from grayish-yellow to brown-olive, with three longitudinal dark stripes on the back, and there are also transverse stripes on the paws. Flycatchers are capable of throwing their limbs away when grabbed, like lizards throwing their tails away. Only here in millipedes they do not grow back.

Although flycatchers are not aggressive, they can sometimes bite in self-defense, but their jaws are not powerful enough to easily bite through human skin. The injected venom can cause swelling and pain, but in most cases the bite is no more dangerous than a bee sting.

4. Keeping flycatchers at home:

Flycatchers are delicate and whimsical creatures. For terrarium maintenance, you need to create ideal conditions, otherwise they will not live long.
You can keep several individuals in one terrarium with a sufficiently large volume and timely feeding.

a) A terrarium.
A large vertical terrarium (approximately 30x20x20) is suitable for flycatchers. At the bottom, you should put peat, earth or other soil that holds moisture well, you can add moss and dry leaves. For shelters suitable bark, ceramic shards, snags. One wall of the terrarium can be finished with bark, cork or other rough natural material so that the flycatchers can hunt freely on a vertical surface.
For successful maintenance of flycatchers, there should not be a sharp temperature drop, it is best to keep a constant temperature in the range of 24-27° C.
Humidity is desirable high-70-80%, additionally you need to put a drinking bowl-flycatchers drink water. Drying out is unacceptable, then they quickly die.

b) Feeding.
In captivity, millipedes are fed live food: cockroaches, flies, moths, bedbugs, crickets, earwigs, and other small insects and spiders. One feeding a day is enough, in the late afternoon. And even better, keep food in the terrarium as often as possible, so that the animals can choose their own time for hunting.

c) Reproduction.
During the breeding season, the male and female tap each other with their antennae when they meet. Then the male lays a lemon-shaped spermatophore directly on the ground, pushes the female on it, and the female immediately picks it up with sexual appendages. Spermatophore laying occurs only in the presence of the female, since seminal fluid cannot be stored for a long time in the open air.
Scootigers lay their eggs in late spring and early summer. Females lay an average of about 60-150 eggs. Interestingly, when the scootiger larvae emerge from their eggs, they have 4 pairs of legs. They then go through 5 more larval stages with 5, 7, 9, 11, and 13 pairs of legs, respectively. Then 4 juvenile stages, each with 15 pairs of legs.

Now, if you ever notice these amazing cute animals - do not harm them, because they bring considerable benefits, and some people also aesthetic pleasure wink.gif

13.07.2006 22:32, Proctos

to
Taler What's going on in HAifa?????

14.07.2006 0:01, Chromocenter

To proctos, see the topic http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=106231
There's about... (In general, nothing yet, the rockets in Haifa did not hit anyone)
Taleru: Lena seemed to imply just the opposite lol.gif
Although I like these creatures (by the way, they are not insects at all - they are Lip-legged millipedes, so, clarification), I also really like them... We have them at home, too. As far as I know, they eat all sorts of insects and thus benefit. To bite - I think you need to try yourself. Here, by the way, I found your type or not in the picture - I don't know, but the squad is the same:
http://www.floranimal.ru/orders/2702.html
By the way, why are we talking about scolopndras, although they belong to the same class, but they are still different, for example (California):
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The truth is so (poisonous!) in houses, probably does not happen at all. But krsota what! smile.gif

This post was edited by Chromocenter - 07/14/2006 00: 07

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14.07.2006 0:17, taler

to Chromocenter:
What's in your picture is definitely poisonous.We have something similar here.A similar creature,during the service, got under the pant leg and gnawed.The bite resembles a scorpion bite ,but the swelling and pain last longer.Scutigera virus, dangerous only to infants.By the way,Hermon is full of them lurking

14.07.2006 0:20, Tigran Oganesov

Theoretically, a scootiger can bite, but I've never heard of such a thing. Apparently, to do this, you just need to stupidly grab it. BTW, the critter has already been discussed here.

14.07.2006 0:24, Chromocenter

Here's something else I found, apparently, about your millipedes: (the picture is very similar - this is House Centipede, Scutigera coleoptrata)
 the image is no longer on the site: ddd_gif.jpg 
House Centipede, Scutigera coleoptrata (L.)
The house centipede came from Mexico, but is now distributed throughout the United States. It often invades houses, particularly if subfloor areas or basements are damp. It searches for insects at night. Unlike other centipedes in the United States, it is able to reproduce within the house. It occurs both indoors and outdoors in the warmer regions of the country, but only indoors in the colder regions. It runs rapidly, holding its body well elevated by means of its conspicuously long legs, then suddenly stops, remains motionless, and with equal agility runs again to a place of concealment (Back, 1939). There are only a few records of this species wounding man, resulting in pain no more severe than that of a bee sting (Curran, 1946b).
Description. The house centipede (plate VII, 2; figure 220) has a very strange appearance. It is 2.5 to 4 cm long, with very long, slender antennae, and with 15 pairs of legs, also very long. In the female, the last pair of legs is more than twice the length of the body. The grayish-yellow body has 3 longitudinal dorsal stripes, and the legs are banded with white (Back, 1939). This species is in an order (Scutigeromorpha) in which all species have 15 pairs of long legs and long antennae, and are the only centipedes with compound eyes, the others having clusters of ocelli. They can readily detach their legs if they are grasped by an enemy.

Life Cycle. When the larvae hatch from the egg, they have 4 pairs of legs. There are then 5 more larval stages, with 5, 7, 9, 11, and 13 pairs of legs, respectively. Thereafter, there are 4 adolescent stages, each witli 15 pairs of legs (Cloudsley-Thompson, 1968).

Other Western Species
In the West, the large Scolopendra polymorpha Wood (plate VII, 2) can attain a length of 15 cm, and its venom-bearing claws can cause severe pain and swelling. Its claws can scratch the skin, and such scratches should be disinfected to prevent secondary infection. The large, greenish Scolopendra heros Girard, which occurs in southern California, can not only cause severe pain and swelling by its venom, but can produce a reddish streak where it has crawled upon the body. Its numerous feet make many incisions into which it drops venom that causes intense irritation and leaves 2 rows of white punctures (CloudsleyThompson, 1968).
Control of Centipedes
For control of centipedes outdoors, the removal of damp harborage places, such as piles of trash, rocks, boards, leaves, grass, and compost, is desirable. In addition, it may be necessary to spray or dust with such insecticides as chlordane, dieldrin, or carbaryl at the concentrations used for most insects (as stated on the package labels) on and around foundations and into the subfloor crawl space of the house.
For control of the house centipede, Scutigera coleoptrata, sprays of 20% malathion, 0.5% diazinon, or 0.5% lindane have been found to be effective when applied to baseboard crevices, cracks, openings in concrete slabs, or other hiding places. Dusts of the same insecticides are useful to blow into wall voids and crawl spaces.
It's from here: http://www.entomology.ucr.edu/ebeling/ebel...0species%20list

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14.07.2006 0:31, Chromocenter

To the thaler:
As far as I understand, all Centipedes are poisonous - more or less. but where I got the picture from (http://www.floranimal.ru/pages/animal/s/2792.html)it is written that the bite of even a giant is not fatal. Here on Carmel, I sometimes saw centipedes - not gigantic, of course, but they dragged 8 centimeters. (Not bitten, no) But let's not frighten Lena any further wink.gif

14.07.2006 8:02, Guest

Thank you all very much.

You've both calmed me down and scared me.
To taler, Wolf
We live just in the South-the Rostov region. Please explain what exactly can be dangerous for the baby (9 months)? What is the possible reaction. The fact is that sometimes we find such bites in a child:
user posted image
but I would like to hope that this is from mosquitoes. true, they take a long time, about 2 weeks.

The description of Scutigera given by taler is fully consistent.
and the description from Chromocenter is unfortunately in English, but in general terms it is clear.

To Bolivar
Yes, indeed, it looks like a link to the topic http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=45119 just about the same insects. there seem to be more optimistic answers (about flycatchers)

I understand that someone finds it beautiful, but still, I don't want to live with them somehow, maybe someone knows a way to eliminate them so that they no longer appear?
Humidity at home does not seem to be present, we have a heat wave of 35 degrees outside, respectively, and at home.

14.07.2006 8:27, Nilson

Scootigers are not dangerous and very interesting as hunters, although the appearance, of course, is ugly. Quoting Darrell:"...there were animals here that always made me shiver" - my feelings are the same. Since the creatures are very sensitive and cautious, it is unlikely that they even come close to a sleeping person, not to mention the fact that it is not at all in their rules to bite him. And how to get rid of them? - destroy the food supply: all flies, mosquitoes, cockroaches...
If it's any consolation, I haven't heard a single complaint about a flycatcher bite in Maykop - not so far away from you - in 25 years, although there are a dime a dozen of them there, too.

This post was edited by Nilson - 07/14/2006 08: 30

14.07.2006 8:30, Bad Den

Seal up the vent. channels (with a grid), windows should also be tightened with a grid.

14.07.2006 8:33, Nilson

Seal up the vent. channels (with a grid), windows should also be tightened with a grid.

It is possible, but not a panacea - millipedes can easily reproduce in the apartment.

14.07.2006 8:37, guest: Lena

Vent. channels and windows have been covered with a grid, and for a very long time, but still...

14.07.2006 15:35, taler

She herself will not throw herself at the child.Unless he accidentally crushes it.But the creatures are cautious and fast,and usually do not allow such behavior to themselves.Most likely vsgo-a midge or a mosquito bit.No fever?About how to withdraw-I can't advise anything in the house of a child and dichlofosy with dusty preposition will not be

15.07.2006 22:18, Pola001

Please help me! "there are insects at home.
Tell me what they are, how dangerous they are, and how to deal with them. mol.gif
Thanks for the help.

This post was edited by Pola001 - 15.07.2006 22: 24

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15.07.2006 22:29, RippeR

nogohvostka like.. I read somewhere that some scientists from the dna analysis distinguished them from the class of insects to some other class..

15.07.2006 23:23, sealor

Come on, what a legtail it is! This is a scaly fish (Lepismatidae) of some kind. It is not dangerous, but useful, you do not need to fight them.

16.07.2006 13:58, andr_mih

What a scaly thing it is, it's a spider! Look, it has 8 legs. Well, or a crustacean of some sort

16.07.2006 14:12, taler

Comrade guest is clearly out of work.What kind of spider is it???Most likely-scaly or...scutigera?The picture isn't exactly good.difficult to find

16.07.2006 15:36, Tigran Oganesov

Scaly, of course.
Pranksters...

17.07.2006 8:34, Nilson

Lepisma saccharinum is a scalefish, still young, probably. And not a legtail, but a bristletail, for that matter. In English, by the way, it is affectionately called "silver fish". Can eat flour, paper, etc. but quite a bit smile.gif

17.07.2006 18:00, RippeR

Exactly-a subclass of the bristletail.. I looked at it in the encyclopedia, read it crookedly as alwayssmile.gif, But they are next to bristle-tails and leg-tails (the class is the same, but the subclasses are different)..
They eat plant-based food..
Previously, when I saw such people at home, I was terribly frightened, when I found out who they were , I stopped.. really safe creatures - at home I sometimes see them on the balcony frame and in the toilet on the jamb, so they won't be able to mess up there..

17.07.2006 18:53, Sparrow

Silverfish in English -)
Silverfish.. hot photo so-so, and on skutigeru, too, something smacks wink.gif
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17.07.2006 22:19, Tigran Oganesov

Legtails are no longer insects, unlike bristletails.

17.07.2006 22:55, sealor

It is written that nogohvostki is a division of the subclass of secretive-jawed insects, but it may now have a different classification. But of course the difference between them is big.

18.07.2006 0:34, Tigran Oganesov

It is already well established that protours and podours are not insects. And many people divide the bristletail into two orders - lepismatid and mahilid.

18.07.2006 6:43, Насекомовед

It is already well established that protours and podours are not insects. And many people divide the bristletail into two orders - lepismatid and mahilid.


The Insects superclass with many classes (Cockroaches class, Butterflies class, etc.) will soon appear at this rate. And then again we will lower all of them and unite them! But work and articles! (This is me grumbling about modern taxonomy, I read Chinese works at nightwink.gif, sorry for the offtop)

23.07.2006 21:23, guest: Julia

Thank you for the topic. I was looking for an answer to the same question.
New apartment-monolithic brick house-19th floor. Repairs were made in the fall of 2005 - in March 2006-moved into the apartment. And the same attack - in san nodes, and in general in the apartment-especially noticeable on the tile-a lot of these insects. I was very stressed out. Now it is clear where they come from and why. I have a bad apartment with centralized ventilation - the apartment below me is not renovated, which means there is just an empty stone box on which the ventilation shaft ends. The apartment has humidity from 50 to 70!! % - and it is not possible to fight it, at all frown.gif(. Vacuuming -plesoshu, but this does not disappear them.. apparently, we must wait for better times, when the whole house will be inhabited and ventilation will improve.
The most important thing for me is that these insects are not harmful to humans.. i.e. you can live with them-do I understand correctly?

24.07.2006 15:14, antfarmer

something quiet... maybe the question was resolved by itself?.. smile.gif
or was a lot of dichlorvos bought and a total disinsection was carried out?..
or maybe the quarantine workers came after all and dear Olon is now resting somewhere in the quarantine reserve?
I want to believe in the best...

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