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04.05.2006 14:20, RippeR

Bolivar:
such handsome men don't fly to us frown.gif frown.gif frown.gif
And then did you try to breed oleanders?? I would buy about five pupae smile.gif

I take gauze for pupae, also suitable.. I glue the end of the pupa's abdomen with a drop of glue (this way it is always selected with ease, and it was a couple of times that the scoops could not get out of the cocoon and died and dried up without getting out and spreading their wings..) Reliable.

04.05.2006 16:02, Нюра

And I'll buy some oleander hawk moth pupae. I have long and strongly wanted...

05.05.2006 0:18, RippeR

I am the first shuffle.gif beer.gif

05.05.2006 19:57, Tigran Oganesov

Wait and see - ...

09.05.2006 19:22, lepidopterolog

Does anyone have any experience keeping peacock eyes of the genus Actias? What do caterpillars eat?

12.05.2006 3:57, guest: RoM

Does anyone have any experience keeping peacock eyes of the genus Actias? What do caterpillars eat?

What kind of view do you have? Otherwise, the set of forage plants may differ greatly for different Actias.

12.05.2006 16:35, lepidopterolog

I'm interested in A. artemis, A. luna, and A. selene. About A. artemis and A. selene, it is written everywhere that they are polyphages. Are there any plants suitable for these species that grow in the center of European Russia? What recommendations for keeping and breeding can you give?

This post was edited by lepidopterolog - 05/12/2006 16: 36

12.05.2006 22:16, +

Here are links to forage plants:

http://www.funet.fi/pub/sci/bio/life/insec...tera/index.html
http://www.consult-eco.ndirect.co.uk/lrc/d...d/macmfood2.rtf
http://mamba.bio.uci.edu/~pjbryant/biodiv/bflyplnt.htm
http://www.press.tokai.ac.jp/issu/asia_zukan/index_e.html
http://home.earthlink.net/~meltoncnc/habitat.htm
http://members.aol.com/YESbutrfly/foodplants.html

Good breeding data is provided by Canadian Bill Oehlke on his website. Just enter their first and last names in the search engine, and the site will be found easily. In general, you can not hesitate to work with the search engine - first type the Latin names of butterflies. Very productive thing-tested many times.
Good luck!

12.05.2006 23:57, guest: RoM

I'm interested in A. artemis, A. luna, and A. selene. About A. artemis and A. selene, it is written everywhere that they are polyphages. Are there any plants suitable for these species that grow in the center of European Russia? What recommendations for keeping and breeding can you give?

I have successfully reared selenium on a birch tree (better-hanging birch) and on various types of willows. I think that the moon and artemis are also quite acceptable to these plants. Breeding in principle is not difficult, the main thing is not to allow crowding of caterpillars, especially at the last ages. Otherwise, they prick each other with sharp hairs and get infected with all sorts of viruses. Also, do not allow waterlogging of the cage - this also contributes to the development of diseases. In general, if you notice sick caterpillars (do not feed, diarrhea, etc.), then immediately isolate them from the rest. smile.gif

13.05.2006 0:12, RippeR

and someone can sell such gooseberries / pupae??? It would be very interesting to hold such goodies yourself smile.gif

14.05.2006 20:33, RippeR

Please help!!!!
That's where the project started, we are going to breed butterflies.. Tell us what plants will go (what the caterpillars will eat, especially what can be easier to get) for these species and a couple of general tips for keeping them:

Saturnia pyri (as far as I know - pear and plum leaves?)
Papilio machaon (umbrella, what exactly, what else??)
Iphiclides podalirius
Parnassius mnemosine
Aporia crataegi
Pieris brassicae
Anthocharis cardamines
Gonepteryx rhamni
Colias crocea
Nymphalis io
Argynnis paphia
pandora(чертополох?)
Vanessa atalanta
Vanessa cardui
Nymphalis polychloros
xanthomelas
Heodes virgaurae (can you breed them at all, or do you need very special conditions?)

species are generally quite common (though not all), but breeding is necessary for scientific purposes..

And in general, maybe someone sells something interesting from the night, too, would be needed..??

15.05.2006 1:04, guest: Антон

Hello!
Forage plants:

Saturnia pyri - any woody roseate
Papilio machaon-is best borne on fennel and dill.
Iphiclides podalirius - any woody rosaceae-can be conveniently fed with snyth and parsnips. They are extremely poorly carried in captivity
Parnassius mnemosyne - any crested birds (Corydalis spp.)
Aporia crataegi - any woody rosaceae
Pieris brassicae - any cruciferous ones. It is convenient to feed cabbage or horseradish
Anthocharis cardamines-cruciferous. Cannibal caterpillars must be kept separately
Gonepteryx rhamni - buckthorn
Colias crocea - any herbaceous legumes
Inachis io - nettles, hops
Argynnis paphia - violets
Pandoriana pandora - violets
Vanessa atalanta - nettles
Vanessa cardui - thistles, burdock, hollyhocks
Nymphalis polychloros -
Nymphalis xanthomelas - polychromates eat willow, poplar, fruit
Heodes virgaurae - sorrel. Breeding them is easy

I will be glad to cooperate, I am ready to help with advice.
Write to ruscolanicus@mail.ru
Anton.

15.05.2006 1:27, Guest

and someone can sell such gooseberries / pupae??? It would be very interesting to hold such delicious things yourselfsmile.gif


Maybe Selena and other peacock eyes will be in June-July,
my email - rm@tut.by. Write smile.gif.

15.05.2006 10:06, Guest

N. polychloros - Willow, Elm, less often-woody rosaceae.

22.05.2006 21:44, Andrrrrr

I'm currently nursing a horde of polychrome flowers on a cherry tree. They have already eaten a whole tree frown.gifAnd still only at 5 age molt...

23.05.2006 11:09, guest: Антон

I have a question for guest Andrrrrr.
If it's not a secret, how did you get eggs from polychlorite (by the way, is it polychloros or xanthomelas)? I myself do not deal with such nymphalids, just now a friend is struggling to no avail to get eggs of Polygonia c-album, Nymphalis vaualbum, Nymphalis xanthomelas. The literature says that these species breed well in captivity, but despite this, this is not the first time I have heard from people about such problems. Maybe these species need a live plant in a tub?
Other tricky views are podalirium and aleksanor. Getting eggs from them in captivity is very difficult. It is especially strange that aleksanor is very aggressive - there are no problems at all with the swallowtail that is close to him...
Thank you in advance.
Sincerely,
Anton.

23.05.2006 15:00, Andrrrrrrr

Hi Anton!
I'm Andrey. This is Nymphalis polichloros. I was walking down the street recently and found a female laying eggs on a cherry tree. I waited a little while while she was laying them down, and now I'm feeding them. I couldn't get eggs in captivity either, but the conditions weren't very good. If your friend needs it, I can send some with atlases. By the way, I will probably send them on the 25th-26th, and then I will write to the mail.
And I had podaliria a few years ago. Eggs were laid without problems, only unfertilized, although they mated.

26.05.2006 21:39, sealor

Is there a need for I. podalirius caterpillars to be illuminated by sunlight, and is this important for caterpillars in general? Now the caterpillar is already 2 years old, kept in the shade, grows and eats normally so far.

27.05.2006 20:18, guest: Andrey

Probably necessary, in any case it affects the fate of the caterpillar. If the day is short, the pupa will stop working. This may also affect the size of the imago.

27.05.2006 20:19, guest: Andrey

That is, I meant that it is necessary to have light at all. It is the sunlight that they do not need.

27.05.2006 23:42, sealor

There is light in the form of a reflected solar background, of course, the container is not quite "in the closet", it is simply not possible to illuminate with direct sunlight. I'm afraid that the caterpillar won't get hurt, it's the only one I have.

27.05.2006 23:51, guest: Антон

I raised hundreds of podalirii, swallowtail, xut, polyxena just in the room, in the semi-darkness-without any problems. But it is advisable for them to take sun baths in the morning, for 10 minutes (of course, direct light, not through glass-UV for prevention). Apollo, Phoebus, Apollonius, and so on. they eat only in bright light (you can use a lamp) and heat. Without this, they will die.
Good luck!

29.05.2006 0:19, RippeR

yesterday oday, the caterpillars of the peacock-eyed pear were hatched, I threw pearplum and cherry leaves, but they don't eat anything yet, why? And on the black poplar I found caterpillars, like the unpaired silkworm. What do you recommend? And in general, how best to keep them in growth.. or maybe it's better to seat them, because they are with a fluff, like with what stands out, do not prick each other, do not die because of this??

29.05.2006 14:42, Антон.

Hello, Andrey.
Pear saturnias run for a long time after hatching, so they settle in nature on a tree so as not to sit all on the same branch. A little later, they will calm down and start eating. It is advisable to immediately choose one woody rosacea (which is easier to get later) and give it to the caterpillars. Moving from feed to feed does not add health to them.
It is better to keep them separate from silkworms, especially since the food plants are different.
With a large crowding and inside the species will prevent each other from shedding and pupating. Ideally, of course, it is necessary to keep each caterpillar separately (my friend raised atlases like this, in addition, it is necessary to raise many cannibals - pigeons, whiteflies, etc.), but this takes much more time and effort. True, butterflies come out larger.
Good luck!
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02.06.2006 15:01, guest: Шастик

How to raise butterflies at home! I understand beetles,but no butterflies. What to keep them in, beetles in aquariums, and butterflies in what I do not understand!!!!!!!!!!!Babaochka came out of the cocoon and what's next?I have a male %

02.06.2006 15:20, lepidopterolog

And what kind?

02.06.2006 18:01, sealor

Butterflies are often bred at home by themselves-plyatyanye moths and floury fireflies. In my aquarium, non-pairs perfectly steam and lay eggs, so you can even keep some species in aquariums smile.gif

03.06.2006 10:49, lepidopterolog

Unlike mace-whiskered butterflies, imagos do not require much space for flight and mating, and they can really be kept in suitable aquariums (especially for peacock eyes, cocoonworms, silkworms, etc. species in which females almost do not fly). But caterpillars love space and often die when crowded.
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03.06.2006 14:37, RippeR

Zhenya! Why are you writing nonsense, you can ask me just by calling me on the phone!
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04.06.2006 16:36, Шастик

Zhenya! Why are you writing nonsense, you can ask me just by calling me on the phone!

Andrey if I was interested in your opinion I would call!!!!!!!!!!!1

04.06.2006 18:15, sealor

Regarding the crowding of caterpillars - in my 30X20X16cm cage, there were 31 individuals at the beginning, and at the end there were 14 individuals of L. dispar caterpillars left (I chose small and lagging ones, although I later realized that I unconsciously selected by gender, as a result, there were only two males out of 14 imagos, but what large smile.gifones). The main thing is to give food on time. Although it is possible that there are species where crowding of caterpillars will be undesirable, I read about this, but there is nothing specific nebylo.

04.06.2006 20:42, RippeR

SHASTIK:
That's right, you don't need information, but write some nonsense..

sealor:
like the caterpillar dispar like to eat their own kind..
Also, everyone says that crowding is bad, but I saw a movie where they showed how silkworms are grown - long garbage, like watering holes for cows, there are a bunch of caterpillars one on top of another, they put a lot of food plant, they eat normally.. I think chkuchennost hindrance if the caterpillars are cannibals or have hairs or spikes.

06.06.2006 13:04, lepidopterolog

So it is silkworms that live in colonies in nature. Then, this is industrial breeding, where it is important that the caterpillars quickly pupate in order to get
silk from the cocoons, while, of course, space is saved. When the content is crowded, humidity increases, which leads to fungal diseases, from which the caterpillars most often die; the adults that come out of the surviving caterpillars are often infertile.

06.06.2006 13:57, sealor

I wonder where to get the caterpillars of this very silkworm...
And the caterpillars of unpaired birds have never been seen eating their own kind. Maybe if they are deprived of food, then they will be-and so-nothing special, no aggression.

18.06.2006 10:35, Корнелия

confused.gif hello!help someone!!!I have a village bear put her children on a chair, but I do not know what they eat!!!

18.06.2006 11:06, Tigran Oganesov

You mean you laid eggs? Or have the caterpillars already hatched? About this bear see here

18.06.2006 15:57, RippeR

rural - in the sense of villica? I had a caterpillar (now the grandmother is straightening out), I fed it with alfalfa, and I advise you to do the same, since you can almost get it everywhere.

19.06.2006 23:33, guest: Антон

It is very convenient to feed this and many other bears with dandelions planted in a container with earth. Tighten the top with a small sieve so that the caterpillars do not run away, put it in a lighted place, it is better not to water from above, but put the container in a larger one with water at the bottom. In the bottom of the container in which the dandelion is planted, make holes - then the water will rise according to the principle of a wick into the ground with dandelion roots. This method saves a lot of time and effort - you do not need to transplant caterpillars daily on freshly picked leaves. It remains only to make sure that the ground does not dry up and there is no "swamp", and in time to transplant the caterpillars to new dandelions when they devour the previous ones.
Good luck!

07.07.2006 20:01, guest: Dasha

I found a Swallowtail caterpillar. I put it in a jar, put dill there. The next day I saw that the caterpillar became "sluggish", so I decided to transfer it to a larger box and due to inexperience I did not see that it "caught on".Three days later, she turned into a chrysalis. Now I don't know if it can develop "lying down" or it needs to be fixed in an upright position somehow?

07.07.2006 22:32, sealor

If the caterpillar was torn from the twig, placed on a hard surface, this can lead to the death of the pupa or to abnormal development, for example, the wings do not straighten normally. It should develop normally lying down in principle, and the butterfly will also come out normally, just need a twig so that it climbs and spreads its wings. See the topic "Raising caterpillars in captivity".

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