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17.07.2006 20:52, RippeR

Indeed, it won't be added to the collection.. It was necessary to put a net to deal well..

18.07.2006 11:21, vilgeforce

Bad Den, Ripper, didn't quite understand you. Can this effect be caused by dryness? And about the grid is not clear at all. I almost never had butterflies in my childhood - I want to understand what this might be related to.

18.07.2006 13:46, Dracus

The cotton wool soaked in water had to be put in a jar. And a branch or gauze for "hanging" the hatched butterfly. When I brought out my first "brood" butterfly (by the way, also a swallowtail), I made the same mistake...
In nature, hatching usually occurs in the early morning, when the air is humid and there is dew. And in dry air, the wing covers harden before the butterfly has time to spread them out.

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18.07.2006 19:21, Fly

thank you! I'll know now. I hope to succeed next time. Are there any other subtleties in cultivation?

19.07.2006 0:54, taler

to Fly:
Of course!If you grow it from eggs.And if the caterpillar is an adult,not infected,before occluding, then there are no problems.But it is better to keep it not in a bank, but in a cage and on the street.
As it dies, try to spread the wing.Maybe all is not lost.
The RippeR
Is Kind Of A female....But with such a wing, I think the cavalier will not be interested.Not a MOTH-SAILBOAT lol.gif
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23.07.2006 15:56, Apis

to Fly:
But with such a wing, I think the cavalier will not be interested.Not a moth-a sailboat lol.gif

It's not about the wing, but about pheromones, which are what attract

23.07.2006 21:55, taler

the Apis, It is clear that not mustache..... lol.gif

26.07.2006 20:08, Apis

Last year I found a hawk moth caterpillar of lilac or purple color, crawling along the road, it pupated but the butterfly did not hatch out of it.
I couldn't identify the caterpillar using the caller ID.
I wonder what kind it is?

26.07.2006 20:30, andr_mih

Many hawk moth caterpillars turn purple before pupation, but the horn does not change color. It may have been green, brown, etc. Take a closer look at www.leps.it Why didn't it come out? Maybe over-dried, maybe she needed a diapause, many reasons

27.07.2006 16:57, Tyomochkin

I would like to know how different species pupate. Signs of pupation, cocoon creation. And one more important question: is it possible that before pupation, the caterpillar discards its legs?

27.07.2006 17:53, Chromocenter

No, the legs, that is, the legs, are not discarded by the caterpillars before pupation. Its signs-this is the most common-is that the caterpillar becomes more solid and shorter, (so to speak compact) and, of course, less mobile. Also, all this, as you can see, for everyone, starts from the front end, the rear end usually remains mobile and segmented to the end.

31.07.2006 19:55, Pavel Morozov

Many (especially ursins and hawk moth) run around on the ground before pupating. Often change color, darken.
After finding a suitable location, the caterpillar prepares to pupate. In different butterflies, this occurs in different ways: diurnal butterflies, as a rule, attach the rear end to the substrate or down, or up with the head end. Hawks are more likely to bury themselves in the ground, leaf litter and create a light cocoon from the inside. Oleander hawkmoth lies on the surface. Scoops often simply burrow into the ground, crested birds can weave cocoons at the roots of trees or on the trunk. Bears pupate in a rather thin cocoon, often weaving a pair of leaves. Saturnii weave cocoons in the branches of trees and shrubs on which they feed. etc.
Having prepared for pupation, the caterpillar, as already mentioned earlier, becomes more compact, shrinks. At a certain point, the skin bursts and slides, exposing the still soft body of the pupa. Then the pupa darkens or takes on the color of the environment (in diurnal ones). The chitinous cover becomes tougher - and the pupa is ready.

31.07.2006 22:52, Tyomochkin

I have a podmarennikov hawk moth caterpillar at home (section classification of insects). I know how to keep the feed, too. We need information about the time and process of pupation. I read about what pupates in the soil, and how much land is needed in a jar (I keep the caterpillar in a 3l. jar)?

01.08.2006 19:01, Tyomochkin

Do hawks prefer any soil? Or a specific one? I bought land for plants, my caterpillar of the bedstraw hawk moth climbed into this land, sat there for 5 minutes, and got out! Now it's trying to get out of the jar! I don't know what to do!

01.08.2006 19:51, Apis

And where and on what plant the caterpillar was found.
The butterfly can be hatched in this year.
I had such an experience with a Poplar hawk moth (and it did not pupate in the soil)

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01.08.2006 21:00, Pavel Morozov

Wait, maybe it will pupate without soil. Then put it in sphagnum, moisten it, let it overwinter on the shelf in the refrigerator from autumn to new year.
Chtoya, bedstraw hawk moth can be bred in the second generation as early as August-September. In my experience, this was.

01.08.2006 21:17, Tyomochkin

To sphagnum???

01.08.2006 21:21, Tyomochkin

Found on podmarennovik! And what does it depend on when it hatches: this year or next?

This post was edited by Tyomochin - 02.08.2006 18: 28

01.08.2006 21:22, Pavel Morozov

It is convenient to store butterfly pupae (those that lie in the ground) in the following way: put sphagnum (peat moss) in a container. There and pupae can be stored, periodically slightly moistening the moss.

01.08.2006 21:26, Bad Den

Why use land for plants, you could just collect land on the street smile.gif

01.08.2006 21:47, Pavel Morozov

Sphagnum holds moisture well. And it is best to take a natural one, somewhere in the swamp.

02.08.2006 12:26, Tyomochkin

At the expense of the land: I didn't want to mess around! Especially in Moscow, somehow I don't keep shovels at home! And the caterpillar got into the ground! I sat all night, and today I dug it out, I thought the chrysalis, but it turned out that it hadn't pupated yet. Is it possible to dig it up after pupation? Bake it on the photo?!

02.08.2006 12:56, entomolog

Every year in the S-Pb area, caterpillars are found on Kiprei. I also feed them. If you do not put the pupae in the refrigerator, they fly out in November-December. They spend the winter in the refrigerator. Keep in the aquarium, the soil is about 15 cm.

02.08.2006 13:13, Apis

In what refrigerator compartment and at what temperature?
What's in the fridge with the aquarium?

02.08.2006 13:24, Pavel Morozov

The caterpillar, in general, can easily pupate without soil.

02.08.2006 15:25, entomolog

Without an aquarium, I have it for 100 liters. And where to get a smiley face "GY-Y-Y" ?
Put it in the vegetable drawer. I put sphagnum in a plastic box for two liters, sometimes I moisten it. They hibernate normally.

02.08.2006 15:27, entomolog

At the expense of the land: I didn't want to mess around! Especially in Moscow, somehow I don't keep shovels at home! And the caterpillar got into the ground! I sat all night, and today I dug it out, I thought the chrysalis, but it turned out that it hadn't pupated yet. Is it possible to dig it up after pupation? Bake it on the photo?!

It's buried, don't touch it for a week. Otherwise, it can be damaged while the pupa is soft. They pupate without soil, but somewhere I met information that then the percentage of defective ones is higher.

02.08.2006 20:04, Apis

lol.gif "will that do?"
And the refrigerator is either two-chamber or single-chamber?

This post was edited by Apis-02.08.2006 20: 06

02.08.2006 20:18, Tyomochkin

And will he ride the same thing with the hawkmoth podmarennikov? I mean don't put it in the fridge. It's just necessary for the collection of hawkmoth, and wait so much time...

02.08.2006 21:23, Pavel Morozov

Do not put the pupa in the refrigerator until about October, keep it on the windowsill, on the shady side. If it doesn't come out before autumn (and bedstraw does), put it in the refrigerator on a shelf in the door or somewhere else, most importantly-not in the coldest place, and keep it there for a couple of months.

02.08.2006 23:47, Tyomochkin

And if you keep it on the windowsill all fall?

03.08.2006 7:37, Pavel Morozov

May.

03.08.2006 10:14, entomolog

And if you keep it on the windowsill all fall?

Do not forget about the support, otherwise the wings will not spread.

03.08.2006 10:16, entomolog

  lol.gif "will that do?"
And the refrigerator is either two-chamber or single-chamber?

It'll do, thank you. A refrigerator is needed with a built-in TV. There's no other way.

03.08.2006 15:00, Tyomochkin

I brought out a wine hawk moth from the pupa, then I was lucky, there was a package nearby, a butterfly climbed on it! I already knew about the support then, but I didn't expect such an early appearance! So I won't forget about the support!

This post was edited by Tyomochin - 03.08.2006 15: 00

05.08.2006 12:30, Tyomochkin

Today (August 5) I wanted to dig up a chrysalis. I didn't see it, but I thought it was a caterpillar! confused.gif Is it possible that after a week spent in the ground, she did not pupate?

06.08.2006 10:10, entomolog

I decided to see what happens if you leave the caterpillars of the bedstraw without soil. Since Thursday, one ran around the cage, then calmed down, shriveled up and lay motionless for two days. It pupated on the floor last night. Still soft.
Waiting for the next ones.

06.08.2006 21:46, Tyomochkin

Can I take a photo?

06.08.2006 22:45, sealor

I have a caterpillar of a bindweed hawk moth before molting on the pupa lay underground for about five days after it was buried. But it is not advisable to dig it out at this time! It is necessary to pour a little soil so that everything can be seen from the bottom. Well, or completely without soil, but this is already too unnatural for me.

entomolog, how many caterpillars are there in general, and I would like to wait until hatching begins, I wonder if everyone will come out or not?

07.08.2006 9:56, entomolog

  
entomolog, how many caterpillars are there in general, and I would like to wait until hatching begins, I wonder if everyone will come out or not?

I don't charge much. The view is not interesting, so just for fun. This year I collected a dozen, but I can't feed them anymore. They eat ivan-tea without stopping for a second. So far, all of them came out.

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