Maintenance of Orthoptera

I had a jamb in that the lamps from above warmed up...but so active that at one time the female spoiled her paws and could not crawl on the glass (I'll switch to ice).

I do not agree, the essence is just in the thermal radiation that the incandescent lamp generates. By the way, everyone's paws are already damaged, and most likely from the fact that they bit each other, and not because of the lamp, the ice does not fit here, and so there is lighting in the room.

Pfft, well, that's very unlikely. I very much doubt that albifrons is a normal sieden. Well, yes, they are big there, but it must be something that would be white-browed and just gave himself up to the praying mantis. And if the albifrons bite where it is necessary then immediately the praying mantis then it can deprive you of your life

By the way, I still have albifrons living Probably because of the heated amps

Well, albifrons was struggling... I kicked him and rolled around... I tried to throw the mantis off with my wings, but it was useless - it grabbed it from above and ate its head. Only ruined the blacksmith! Paws 3 still ate and threw..

This very thermal radiation did not affect the grasshopper's life in any way until October, it was actively feeding, it was brisk (and feisty), and as autumn came, it immediately needed something....In my opinion, still old age....it is necessary to somehow feed him vitamins, lactobacilli, antibiotics, but how??
I think antibiotics would have extended the smiths ' lives for sure. How do I find a way to deliver them to the blacksmith??

Well, albifrons was struggling... I kicked him and rolled around... I tried to throw the mantis off with my wings, but it was useless - it grabbed it from above and ate its head. Only ruined the blacksmith! Paws 3 still ate and threw..

Yes, the same thing with the rack was So spoiled a bunch of jumps, catches and then spits out. She spat out mantises, too.
Usually, albifrons bite very painfully, but their head can not reach so well and their paws are relatively short. But the bite for the rack is often very dangerous.

The small grasshoppers I brought for food died before they were eaten. At the time of delivery, they were apparently alive and well, active.
I think there are several possible options.
- old age. However, old age still implies gradual decrepitude, and not instant destruction or death.
- humidity. Its abrupt change may well kill. Forced ventilation, I think, is needed. Outside, the wind is constantly blowing, the air is fresh...For me, so far - the reason number 1.
- illness. Limited space, poor ventilation, leftover food, mold - the result. I.e. actually the previous cause.

In nature, large grasshoppers in our region easily (at least survive) survive the August frosts (frost), which sometimes occur in the first days of August. Just a few years ago, the frost was somewhere around the 10th of August, there are photos that capture this.
After this frost, grasshoppers of all stripes survived.
Take this year: the frost fell somewhere in the last days of September-the first of October ( I don't remember), however, there were practically no blacksmiths, only here and there on the trees. Decticus - 100%. In late August and September, it was very cold, cloudy, and rainy. This is the reason.
On the other hand, it was quite warm at home. +25-28 constantly.
I don't know...logical assault does not give results yet....

Today, on the way, I went to a vacant lot to look at the land without snow, otherwise I won't be able to see it soon. Empty. But the thin trill of the "feed base" - small grasshoppers-is still heard despite the frost up to -6! On the street around +18 oud several days.
Cool! How they survived is not clear.

There must be swordsmen sitting there. It looks very nice! Unusual conditions, absolutely.

There must be swordsmen sitting there.

Most likely not swordsmen, but horse racing (Roeseliana roeseli).In our country, they also survive until mid-October.I found this one yesterday-

This post was edited by Decticus - 10/21/2012 20: 55

Not Roeseliana roeseli.
I brought one home. He died in the morning! I don't know what the hell that is.
If I treat my terrarium with actara, will the eggs laid in the ground be damaged?
One day I saw a small centipede, killed it, then another and another, what if there are more? They are quite small, about 1 cm. Maybe they kill everyone?

Have you forgotten about the temperature? On the street, it is unlikely to be more than +10, in the room - +18 and above, this is very much.
Most likely, the animals have already switched to the "cold" mode, and you put them in the heat. Essno, from such a jump they will die.
Another option - in the heat, all those parasites that sit on them and which in situ are "pinned down" by the cold are sharply activated: they are warmed up - the mushroom has burst into growth, the grasshopper has bent over in a few hours.

Try to bring a variety of watermelons home and put them not in the room, but in the refrigerator-in a compartment with approximately street temperature.

Ktozh me with animals in the refrigerator that will let?!
On the street for almost a week, the temperature kept up to +20, at home +25-27.
Is it really that important? Maybe centipedes after all? How to catch them all then? Can we still use aktara?

alex017, maybe you don't have scolopendra but drupes?
Take care of your eggs! I had a bear in a terrarium, and she ate grasshopper eggs! Drupes I think they will also eat them in the soil!

As for the temperature, my anadrimadusa breaks the record for life expectancy in captivity, last year the Turkish dybka lived to October 20, male.
And now Anadrimadusa retowskii almost completely lives well and does not feel sad, the female white-fronted grasshopper also survived. I think if not for the lamps that I put for heating, they would not have lived. I think the temperature still decides. Kept dry and watered and fed rarely. Not enough live food.

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Here I had a record - last year T. kantans lived until November 20, without any lamps and heaters.Now there are 2 males left, the female died yesterday. Until the last day, I put it off, ate normally.

what kind of wingless grasshopper is this? Post 10708 ??

http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...81#entry1355881

what kind of wingless grasshopper is this? Post 10708 ??

Ta sort of responded with the same post below - Pholidoptera griseoapatera
They really seem to live up to December, a few years ago, like in November, at the beginning of it, I went to Korosten and "saved" a live female who was slowly moving along a white wall. Same story by the way - I brought her home and the next day she was dead

I hope he will live until November, and then how, maybe even see the snow .

This Sunday you will show snow to your anadrimaduse And I will probably show snow to my praying mantis and locust survivors))))

This Sunday you will show snow to your anadrimaduse And I will probably show snow to my praying mantis and locust survivors))))

Yes, indeed something bad is shown by the predictor
http://www.calsky.com/cs.cgi?Meteo=

Damn, I don't understand why messages don't arrive at the right time. Not a single notification came, I thought that the topic was abandoned.

Skolopendr / kostyanok or whoever is masquerading as them in the dofigishche cage! At night, a huge number of them fall out!

There are probably more eggs in the ground of this cage. I'm afraid to heat or sift, I'll just ruin everything for sure. Lightly sprayed with aktara. I think that it is the eggs of actara that are just less destructive. My animals won't show up until spring, and actara is only active for a couple of weeks.
A couple of months of light spraying should improve the situation.
In order for the blacksmith to live very long, you can try not to let him mate. Without this, rhino beetles lived for 1 year and 3 months. But it's not interesting without reproduction...yes, and one blacksmith I lived without sex, but still died....

Grasshoppers are dying in the fridge! Verified, 100% fact. At the same time, he found the living in the KNS! Not exactly crickets. Strange unhealthy stuff.

Damn, I don't understand why messages don't arrive at the right time. Not a single notification came, I thought that the topic was abandoned.

Skolopendr / kostyanok or whoever is masquerading as them in the dofigishche cage! At night, a huge number of them fall out!

I think that they will eat eggs . In order to avoid this, I take a few small pots and cover them with the soil I bought at the plant store. I plant grasshoppers there and the females lay eggs there, so there is a" control clutch", and if the blacksmiths only appear in it in the spring, it means that there is something wrong with the soil or in the soil in the main cage.

KNS is a fecal pumping station that we have on our balance sheet.

Oh, I see . Most likely there live some cave crickets/grasshoppers, there are a lot of stories about them, in Kiev, too, somewhere in the tunnels of underground rivers were

No, not cave-like, ordinary. They will climb into the cracks when it starts to get cold. But now something is no longer visible, apparently caught them.
There are also a lot of frogs and toads there.

No, not cave-like, ordinary. They will climb into the cracks when it starts to get cold. But now something is no longer visible, apparently caught them.
There are also a lot of frogs and toads there.

Interesting! It's probably a little scary out there.

No, it's not scary there. It's terribly damp, it doesn't smell good, and it used to be dark. The engine room is always flooded with oil seals. In short, it's fun and interesting!)

Where is it at all?

Sewage pumping station. The factory owns such a disgusting structure. The most disgusting thing is that it pumps the sewer not from our factory, but from the neighboring one (8-10 cubic meters per hour approximately), while ours has almost no discharges (200-300 cubic meters per month), but at the same time we fully pay for electricity, replace pumps, repair and maintain them.

It is clear what to say here...

I hatched 2 tettigonia caudata yesterday.

Were the eggs laid in 2012 or did they last for several years?

eggs were laid in 2012, May or jun

And I wonder, in your opinion, whether some of the eggs of T. caudata remain in a state of diapause for several years in the conditions of keeping in an insectarium? And in general, how sustainable is it to maintain our grasshopper crops for years without infusing new genetic material from nature?

And one more question. Do you want to try breeding Metrioptera brachyptera in captivity?

To be honest, the questions are not entirely idle. I and my graduate students started studying the patterns of distribution of green and non-green individuals (and more broadly, individuals with different protective coloration) in erect-winged animals of different life forms. While there are some preliminary data on Metrioptera brachyptera and Omocestus haemorrhoidalis (they are published here: http://www.zooherzen.org/publikacii/sborni...redirects=0&d=1 It is planned to include other types of research as well. But I don't really know the nature of this variability. In the literature, there is fragmentary information about the hereditary nature of coloration in Decticus verrucivorus and Chorthippus brunneus, which does not guarantee the same nature of coloration in other species (for example, Oedipoda can "repaint" even as adults in different shades of brown and gray - not to mention Locusta migratoria with its phase transformation). In principle, experiments on the possibility of color changes in ontogenesis can also be made with larvae caught in nature, but neither the beginning of larval life, nor, moreover, the splitting of color during crossing without cultivation, can be traced. A Metrioptera brachyptera in this respect is generally a mystery to me. It seems that the dimorphism of coloration begins to appear only after molting on the adult (which, by the way, does not exclude the possibility of its hereditary nature). In my opinion, it would be quite useful to investigate all this.

This post was edited by PVOzerski - 17.01.2013 23: 10

And I have hatched 3 grasshopper larvae, presumably some jumps, I did not expect even such an early exit.

Here's the actual thing. There are already five of them

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And I wonder, in your opinion, whether some of the eggs of T. caudata remain in a state of diapause for several years in the conditions of keeping in an insectarium? And in general, how sustainable is it to maintain our grasshopper crops for years without infusing new genetic material from nature?
And one more question. Do you want to try breeding Metrioptera brachyptera in captivity?

Well, I hadn't thought of that.Probably you can.Here I have the second generation of grasshoppers without the infusion of new gen. material.Let's see what happens next, how many more will hatch, etc.
My Metrioptera brachyptera laid eggs last year.
Last week, 2 more T. caudata appeared. Those that hatched on January 11 have already shed.

They've grown up already.
Recently hatched another 5.

I have 20 pieces of jumps already 0_o
As far as I understand, this is still the Crimean platycleis.
I can't say anything about the view. And there are 3 more decticuses
UPD: As it turned out, most likely Pontic bush lovers hatched, and not horse races .

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According to my observations, when breeding grasshoppers, larvae from eggs begin to come out much more actively with increasing temperature and increased watering of the earth. Already 50 pieces at least came out, and from the control pot with good watering, up to seven larvae appeared per night, with a diameter of the pot's circumference of only 10 cm. Photos of larvae of the very first stage in order: Pholidoptera pustupiles, Gampsocleis glabra, Decticus verrucivorus.

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It is interesting that the color of the newborn verrucivorus is nuclear-olive-purple, such as occurs in some individuals in nature. Moreover, last year there were just a few grasshoppers with a similar color, but most of them were brown. This means that we can assume the following-the color of the parents is inherited (roughly speaking),
then you can try to derive a stable form of grasshoppers of a certain color.
It is no wonder that such a contrast-colored grasshopper is only one out of five, all the others are brown as always.