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06.07.2012 19:01, alex017

This similarity is a bad and complicated thing. When I kept beetles, this problem was always there. The male was worth his weight in gold, often alone. Not only that, the beetles were getting smaller. I understand that the reason for the melchanie was even a drop in temperature in the winter in the room (on the floor-the wind walked). Blacksmiths will have a similar problem. Keep them in piles, as well as beetles, will not work.
Even with the desire and possibility of larvae, after all, there are still not many?
I'm watching my female, she doesn't lay eggs for something, or I just don't see it. But it mates all the time.
I'd like to find blacksmiths with parthenogenesis..... Otherwise, keeping in captivity on a permanent basis will not work. Constantly replenishing in the south is problematic for obvious reasons))) I'm even thinking of buying a leafcake....

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10.07.2012 2:02, DanMar

Well, I keep them in piles, and it turns out=). So far, I'm practicing how best to choose the conditions for the largest number of larvae, it's not easy, but for example I brought three albifrons - two females and a male or two males and three females, I don't remember, the next year I got four(five) larvae, the result was good. Now I think separately to take small containers that would put eggs in a small box with soil that is easy to put in the cold and water...
As for the masonry, it looks like it needs better feeding. Either the female is not quite fully grown yet - in large species, it still takes a lot of time for the female to start laying-in dreamaduzas, in general, a month after fledging, and there were very few eggs. But they were large, up to 1cm!

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10.07.2012 23:53, DanMar

As far as I understand, it's not about subspecies - well, if I'm not mistaken =). Everything seems to converge to the variety, individuals come across a little larger - sometimes a little smaller, and sometimes quite large specimens come across in my area. I can say that everything is very confusing with subspecies, but I'll tell you in advance to look for information on the Internet - it's not worth it, there's simply nothing there. In theory, we have one nominative subspecies everywhere, well, unless it is possible in the south that these are the largest verrucivores of the subspecies Decticus verrucivorus gracilis, although I strongly doubt it. As for what is larger than the albifrons - I would not say so, perhaps the average, but the albifrons have always overtaken the gray ones in terms of size. And, of course, the largest albifrons will look more impressive compared to the largest verrucivorus. Once I came across one - it was about 54 mm long. But this is as always a bloated pregnant female, or someone with parasites.
The diversity of the size of these grasshoppers is obviously related to what they eat and in what conditions they grow, the amount of sunlight, etc., etc., and their movement is clearly responsible for the" mixing " of gnomes and giants in their habitats.

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11.07.2012 22:13, DanMar

This is true, but I still remember a few variable species-this is according to gampsokleis Sedakov, (yes, it has not just a large variability, but it also seems to display quite a lot in subspecies), and it is very variable in size and color, but if you also count subspecies, then pinhole and nominative how they differ. Platicleys have an average variability - the same affinis with a green or brown pronotum are found. As for the variability in tettigonia and gamsocleis, it is present, but very small. You can, for example, meet a completely yellow tettigonia individual, sometimes. They also differ in size, I compared them myself, but not particularly pronounced and noticeable, but there are tiny and large ones.And bush lovers also have variability, all of them in general have it, if you observe and compare specimens a lot. It's just that verrucivorus has it too pronounced, and it's still not clear how to separate it into subspecies or how to deal with it, for example =).

11.07.2012 23:26, Hierophis

Variety is a very slippery concept, in the sense of slippery-that a little slip - and already a subspecies ))) A lot of subspecies were redescribed on the basis of various morphs, varieties, there are only parnassius to mention, and if decticus were so commercially popular, then probably there would already be a lot of subspecies)))))

After all, none of us has seen Gampsokleis Sedakov so often as to draw a conclusion about his variability, but from words.. I don't know, but where is it written?

Variability is present in all absolutely living organisms, if you really find fault, there are not even absolutely identical twins, but there are some similar arrays, here are the same gampsokleis glabra or jumps are different-well, how many I caught them-well, they are very much the same, the same and tettigonia.
And in Verrucivorus, the variability is VERY strong. And not only in color, but also in proportions, and even in the shape of the ovipositor.
The size category is not an indicator usually, but when there are two clear size groups, it is also not just like that...

By the way, the color of the rack also seems to be a little variable, and within just one piece of land - on one bush you can catch a rack with almost no spots and a rack with very pronounced spots. And this is taking into account their obligate parthenogenesis.

12.07.2012 0:30, DanMar

Well, yes, that's what I wrote about, verrucivorus, yes. But I don't agree at all about Gamsokleis, his photos on the network are already quite enough to draw conclusions, use Google. At dybok, the variety also does not suffer, but mine, which is from the Crimea, generally changed its color to green-olive (!). Sometimes the ochre colors of burnt grass come across.

Once again about verrucivorus-commercial popularity, IMHO, is not a reason to single out subspecies, it's unfair

. And they have already been taken out. and they are searched, or rather their names. You can view it here here, for example. And the color and diversity of forms is all at the level of the variety, since all this occurs within the same habitat stations, it depends on individual growth conditions, as I believe, and there are no factors to deduce in the subspecies. So we live. In reality, in grasshoppers, as far as I remember, most subspecies are separated by some territorial boundaries, and in the habitats of this or that subspecies they do not mix, at the borders - yes. It's not like butterflies that constantly change their habitats and calmly fly over and mix. This is especially true for my hypothesis of short-winged and wingless species user posted image

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25.07.2012 13:11, Helen0210

Hello!
I would really like to breed straight - winged crickets. From experience - only breeding butterflies.
At the dacha, in the crack between the curb and the house, 3 crickets are cricketing during the day and until the evening (I don't know why they are cricketing during the day? And maybe at night..). No matter how much I tried to get closer , they instantly fell silent and quickly ducked down, hiding. But still, I managed to see one - it looked something like this (Cricket).
I would have caught two of them and put them in a cage and found them a mate, but I couldn't get a net through that crack... Maybe they can somehow be lured out by some kind of smell? Which one? And if you stick a wand in there, scare it, then it will jump out of there? In general, advise how to get them out of there...? And what to feed in winter?(You won't find herbs unless you grow them in pots.)
Thank you in advance.

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26.07.2012 0:47, DanMar

Hello!
I would really like to breed straight - winged crickets. From experience - only breeding butterflies.
At the dacha, in the crack between the curb and the house, 3 crickets are cricketing during the day and until the evening (I don't know why they are cricketing during the day? And maybe at night..). No matter how much I tried to get closer , they instantly fell silent and quickly ducked down, hiding. But still, I managed to see one - it looked something like this (Cricket).
I would have caught two of them and put them in a cage and found them a mate, but I couldn't get a net through that crack... Maybe they can somehow be lured out by some kind of smell? Which one? And if you stick a wand in there, scare it, then it will jump out of there? In general, advise how to get them out of there...? And what to feed in winter?(You won't find herbs unless you grow them in pots.)
Thank you in advance.

In the photo, it seems to be a modikogrillus of some kind. Maybe a big-headed cricket. I tried to get a brownie out of a crack in the asphalt - it didn't work out at least three days in a row at night I watched him=). It is unlikely to be possible to take it out, except to try to "push"it from the other side. Field crickets, for example, can be "flooded" with water and lured out with blades of grass, but not yours.
They do not live long, very much, unlike even grasshoppers that can live all summer and even reach winter. As far as I know, the standard life span of such a cricket is about 3 months, even less, it was not possible to breed normally in captivity. A much more suitable species for breeding is of course our field cricket. The eggs that the female laid will probably come out in the fall or late summer. The larvae will overwinter and only next summer you can get adult crickets that will live about three months too). With almost all crickets, we have such a phenology(from the genus gryllus and related genera). as a culture, southern species are well suited - the larva develops there for about three months and the imago lives for the same amount, such as you can find in bird markets. They are interesting for their behavior and lifecave crickets (actually a separate family that can hardly be called crickets) - they live up to two years in total and are blind, with long legs and antennae.
2alex017
So early tettigonii do not die, it seems. Especially Turkish ones. The norm is somewhere before October. Most likely a fungus of some kind. Soon the grasshopper will stop moving and start to stink (normally those who have died a natural death do not get caught up in bistros). Perhaps the conditions did not fit, there is soil in the terrarium? There, fallen fangs could become mildewed or rot, and a grasshopper that sat for a long time near this could become infected. The same thing happened to me by the way.