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01.09.2017 15:47, GrigorY66

Mating stops in the fall by 90% and almost all females just live out their lives at the bottom. But not this year, it's in full swing right now. Even half of the males are almost completely green, as they shed 2 weeks ago, or even later. On the remote, poorly lit forest edges, you can still find predimago. I wonder how long their activity will last this fall..

01.09.2017 17:17, NIKITA TIMOSHEV

Again aiolopus,I found more than ten individuals, sednya ate 2 individuals a male and a female, the female pierced into the potatoes at breakneck speed, I caught the male.

03.09.2017 11:03, Decticus

Ruspolia of some sort.. What is it? Another southern bullshit? Fillies or something? At least attach a photo.

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03.09.2017 13:37, Decticus

Here, as promised, is a photo of straight-winged birds from Yoshkar-Ola.
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04.09.2017 10:35, Kolez

Decticus, what does the stridulation of these blue-eyed beauties sound like? Who does it look like? smile.gif

04.09.2017 11:22, NIKITA TIMOSHEV

We couldn't avoid aiolopus,but it turned out to be epacromius tergestinus,not aiolopus.But we still have aiolopus.

04.09.2017 16:14, Decticus

Decticus, what does the stridulation of these blue-eyed beauties sound like? Who does it look like? smile.gif

on the cantans. Probably all tettigonias seem to chirp.
http://bio.acousti.ca/classification/tettigonia-caudata

Today I found predimago verrucivorus in a field in dry grass. I wonder how long it will live after it fades into imago.

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04.09.2017 17:44, NIKITA TIMOSHEV

Half a month,but viridissima like decticus chirps.

04.09.2017 17:49, Decticus

What half a month, viridissima half a month as decticus chirps? or what))write it more clearly

This post was edited by Decticus - 04.09.2017 17: 53

04.09.2017 18:48, Kolez

Decticus, and the truth) sings like a cantante)) surprisingly, I would not have distinguished in nature probably. Viridissima has a more peculiar sound.

I don't understand you Nikita, but what weary like decticus chirps I don't agree. Viridissima is much louder, especially in the house you can feel it + they sing completely differently, and the sound itself is different.

04.09.2017 18:58, NIKITA TIMOSHEV

If sednya is found before decticus verrocivorus, it will live at least half a month, max 40 days.

04.09.2017 19:14, Decticus

Where does the data about the maximum life expectancy of 40 days come from?

Kolez, I could hardly distinguish them at first either. Especially in places where there were a lot of both. Then he easily identified a single caudata chirping in a field of cantans.

04.09.2017 19:42, Hierophis

And as it turned out, we have a lot of albifrons living right next to the house jump.gif
I brought one male home, put him in a 1.5-meter terrarium, but he doesn't criculate, so I think maybe he needs to be put in a jar? ))))

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04.09.2017 23:55, GrigorY66

Ahhh, the swordsman is big. Which only chirps at night. Z-z-z-z-z... And it moves very quickly in the grass from place to place. A couple of times I saw such people about 15 years ago, or even more. It doesn't occur above latitude 48. Even in Voronezh region no.

05.09.2017 0:01, GrigorY66

NIKITA, if the bear did NOT pass by the ears - they chirp completely differently. Dekti is really loud and jerky "tsk", and Viri- "cuts". Even at the same high temperature, their trills are relatively distinguishable.
Well, the daily rate of their songs - you should already know.

05.09.2017 2:30, GrigorY66

Dectikus, and in Mari El, judging by the photo, the cants have already aged significantly, unlike our belated individuals from our abnormal "summer".

05.09.2017 5:51, alex017

May he not die in three days. They have almost no day/night temperature difference.
In addition, it was initially placed in a 1.5 m cage.
As a child, I kept them for months in small cages or cans, they always sang.
So, no 3 days.

05.09.2017 7:13, GrigorY66

alex017, I gave an exceptional basic survival characteristic of this species. Of course, there is adaptability and personally developed methods for everything, the basis of which is laid on their own experiments and observations. I practice it myself. Thank you.

05.09.2017 9:54, Kolez

GrigorY76, I think Hierophis just trills))

Well, decticus is still okay, in my opinion these are the most unpretentious grasshoppers for keeping, they eat everything in a row, run around the aquarium and criculate in the morning, they generally give concerts in the sun (this is all at least northern). They have been living with me since May this year and are still 100% active. Only one female died a week ago, so maybe the time has come, or maybe she's sick with something. Well, as it is, everything is clear here, which is probably why no one discusses the subtleties of the content of verrucivores. But about the cantans, let ENO not deny the problem with dehydration. I was personally convinced that year when I took a dried female off a stick in my terre, which a day ago was quietly crawling around and eating clover. If I had known earlier that the moisture from the plants is not enough for them in the fall, it is quite possible that my edges would not have bent then in mid-September.

05.09.2017 11:14, Decticus

Dectikus, and in Mari El, judging by the photo, the cants have already aged significantly, unlike our belated individuals from our abnormal "summer".

There, too, by the way, May and the first half of summer were cold and rainy. And there were different cantanzes, the one in the photo is really old; he walked slowly and was not so active. But not everyone is like that.

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05.09.2017 13:03, alex017

But about the cantans, let ENO not deny the problem with dehydration. I was personally convinced that year when I took a dried female off a stick in my terre, which a day ago was quietly crawling around and eating clover. If I had known earlier that the moisture from the plants is not enough for them in the fall, it is quite possible that my edges would not have bent then in mid-September.


How long did they live together and when were they caught? This is important information, because those who are freshly caught at this time usually die the next morning.
An interesting question arises: how to slip them water if the saucer does not fit. A wick made out of a bandage? How to explain to the creature that it is necessary to drink, and not to gnaw for example?
I am concerned about this problem, if only because there is a problem getting crickets to drink.
Now I spray them in the evening. More precisely, not them, but the walls of the terrarium, but I don't like this method.

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05.09.2017 14:10, Kolez

Alex, they lived with me for about 2 months. I don't usually take them home in the fall, for the same reason that you have described.

Well, yes, the walls. I also put a small bowl or stack of wet grass, so they also drink. Grigory wrote that it is necessary to spray the insects themselves.

05.09.2017 14:17, Kolez

Alex, they lived with me for about 2 months. I don't usually take them home in the fall, for the same reason that you have described.

Well, yes, the walls. I also put a small bowl or stack of wet grass, so they also drink. Grigory wrote that it is necessary to spray the insects themselves (true about the cantans).

05.09.2017 14:36, Hierophis

I certainly won't put dexticus in a jar, smile.gifbut the fact that I brought the male and let him into the terrarium, with grass and earth and a snake, is a fact, and he feels great there, jumps, eats, but doesn't tsk. Probably, you need to change to another, or maybe bring a female)

05.09.2017 15:05, Decticus

Alex, Kolez, you say that the cantans caught in the fall die the next day.But this is not always the case. I once caught a grasshopper on September 15 lived until November. I posted a photo of him in this topic; he almost turned dark brown.

05.09.2017 15:28, NIKITA TIMOSHEV

Alex, Kolez, you say that the cantans caught in the fall die the next day.But this is not always the case. I once caught a grasshopper on September 15 lived until November. I posted a photo of him in this topic; he almost turned dark brown.

The presence of verrocivorus in the terrarium can survive until the end of November, if the temperature is maintained and suitable food is given.


In the meantime,I haven't seen epacromius and aiolopus yet, but the heat continues.

05.09.2017 15:36, Decticus

The presence of verrocivorus in the terrarium can survive until the end of November, if the temperature is maintained and suitable food is given.


Quite possibly. By the way, here is the cantance in the photo that I had until November.picture: DSC01461.JPG

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05.09.2017 15:42, NIKITA TIMOSHEV

Verrocivorus, which I caught on June 4, lived in the bank for 13 days,after which he was released into the field.I caught him when he was after molting, managed to bring him whole, length with wings and ovipositor 5.5 centimeters, on the last day of maintenance-June 17, he was 54 mm long with wings, with ovipositor length was 63 millimeters, it turns out there was still a thick female.

05.09.2017 15:49, Decticus

I also once measured the grasshoppers that I thought were the largest.)
Here's caudata, for example; I don't know if it's small or large. Are viridissims larger or not?picture: DSC00838.JPG

05.09.2017 15:53, NIKITA TIMOSHEV

I have found caudates of 7.5 centimeters,there may be 8 centimeters, but very rarely.

05.09.2017 16:39, Kolez

Decticus, no, no, to be specific, I've had horse races and verrucivores die since I was a kid catching them in the fall and dragging them home. I no longer dared to keep the late cantans, and I didn't dare keep the others either.

05.09.2017 17:01, Decticus

I've never had anyone die the next day, as far as I can remember. The latest verrucivorus I once came across on September 29 or 30; lived for a week.DSC_0136.jpg

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05.09.2017 17:17, ИНО

05.09.2017 17:20, NIKITA TIMOSHEV

This year I got a long-winged viri, the length was 6.5 centimeters.

05.09.2017 17:30, Decticus

This year I got a long-winged viri, the length was 6.5 centimeters.

There doesn't seem to be anything special about it; I've heard there are long-winged cantanzes.

07.09.2017 23:43, GrigorY66

Kolez, there is also a fine line here. Maybe it's old, maybe there just wasn't enough space and the food cooker couldn't handle it. She usually before death liquid shit soiling the edge of the tummy (like a hanged man), then sits and does not crawl, and then lies down and sags. Do not think, all who held-all noticed))There are individuals of the same species and age - which either take root immediately, or "act up", crawl around the cage, fall, fight, then fall again... and all the time they are crawling somewhere... Usually these are long-whiskered and forest edged individuals. Dekti here should be considered by the length of the paws and wings, the shorter they are - the easier it is to keep, especially in the paws. But this is comparatively not a very accurate definition on my part, but it holds for 60%.
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08.09.2017 0:23, GrigorY66

alex017, everything was described by me above and very detailed, moreover, with belated additions about water.. Where our esteemed "professor of sour cabbage soup" ENO was loitering in protest.
Saucer....??))) I wrote that this is not a hamster). Feeling the open water with his mustache, he can reflexively pull away, because for them in nature this is not a drinking bowl - but a sign-stop!- Puddle, ditch, pond. And in the same natural environment, he gropes for it with small antennae on his mouth and takes it from the grass, or any other surfaces, if he has not removed enough of it from food during the day. But at the same time, the amount of its absorption is inextricably played by the temperature of the past day. I also wrote that you can adapt a jar of water on top and a gauze sticking out of it, which will always be wet (that is, soaked). Hold, taste, watch. And most importantly, understand their vital natural adaptability. I'm not eloquent, please excuse me.

08.09.2017 0:42, Kolez

GrigorY66, There was plenty of room, although maybe digestion, she had a hearty lunch on the eve of death. I only kept cantans for one summer, so I don't know much about them, only saw how the cantans dripped after cabbage and lettuce leaves (then I didn't give them any more) and that it's better not to keep them together for a long time without live food, only viridissima is probably more dangerous. Here with verrucivores easier, this year, for example, I did not catch them at all for food and they did not attack each other.But about death, I noticed in decticus that they sometimes drop both jumping legs in agony, or before death, when crawling, they cling to objects and the legs fall off.

08.09.2017 2:18, GrigorY66

Kolez, death at elevated temperature, rather than natural death in nature. The agony here will be pronounced, that is, it is her reflex. Mine used to even chirp, when dying, when the paws were taken away, twitching and contracting creaked wings.... In nature, they just lie down on a cold night and sink. And even easier - thrushes eat up, flying in the morning at dawn, while the male creaking at night still sleeps on the branches of the same apple or mountain ash or other garden culture.)
Nature, our fucking mother, has seen everything, and they don't suffer from natural death in it... well, if earlier they did not die from aggressors. And we are going against it. If your edging creaks on the loggia in winter - you will answer to God later))) A joke))) well, as if... interfered with nature, suchaaara))) this organism is already unnecessary for her in winter. So what does it live for? And.../?

08.09.2017 2:38, GrigorY66

Kolez, Rule number one! Well ... so... in a friendly way)).
1) Keep each individual separate, for God's sake, and 20% of the problems or even more will disappear.
2)Fermented food in the bubble. His tummy swelled considerably, stopped crawling, and then maybe even spewed out a bad smell. Fungus in the digestive bladder. In the wild, they do not die from it. I have one that died in November from the refrigerator of a week-old imago in 2010 for an unknown reason. And a few more different increases in different years of content. I'm powerless here. Something with food gets in + possibly limited space and a little sickly temperature regime. Ah not znaaaaaayu(

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