Maintenance of Orthoptera

Where did they find such shorties? I'd say he's even a simpa!)

Are you talking about short-winged verrucivores? I myself have not met such people, those photos are from Google. If I'm not mistaken, they live in Western Europe.

About yellow and brown tettigonias: I had 2 cantans in a sawdust cage in 2012. After the last molt, they turned yellow. The imago's photo was not saved.

This post was edited by Decticus - 06.08.2017 12: 23

Kolez, and we have in Gatchina about a week only imago cantans come across, all have grown up or something...

Decticus with very short wings is Decticus verrocivorus loudoni.

Yes, I also had yellow cantanzes. I caught, I remember, the third molts at the end of May, put them in a cage, and they already turned yellow and unsightly by the pre-pre. In this situation, it depends on the food that is limited in plants, what they eat in nature (although the same is given) and a small (unnatural) amount of moisture affects the color of chitin.
But I noticed that the later phases, which become smaller in the size of adults, are less susceptible to fading and at the same time more resistant to life in captivity.

Kolez, in the Leningrad region quite. But in Gatchina, it is unlikely that the microclimate is drier there. The pre-pre is still there for sure, but trehu is definitely not there anymore.. And this one is in the north-east of the region. I think if you go further for p.If you go north towards Sviri, you can find less in the swamps there. In a normal summer, they are always there a little later than in Volkhov, but in this-you know, I think you can only see them there under a microscope))

ENO, you are all in your repertoire of argument and disagreement.
Chitin really dries and roughens, while acquiring a lighter color. Tettigonias do not have light brownish-sand individuals with soft chitin. Even after molting, it is always salad-like. Namely, soft bears a bright green or salad color scheme. What does natural humidity affect? And we always have it at least 70%. In the forest in the area of 100%, where even in the fall, the old people-death throes are bright green, and the sides of the saddle do not almost lighten. As usual, it begins in many adults.
In a dark green color box with greens at home, the cantans also brighten for some reason. And...??
But caudates in green thickets of tapinambur are yellow, and in an open field - bright green. I can't guarantee to describe it here...
But viri are less susceptible to this, males do not fade with age. And the larvae in the cage, too, in the same conditions as the edges. I did not often observe them, because my life was determined in the north, but I remember that even males (unlike kants) in the last active days of life in nature retain the bright green color of the saddle, head, wings, belly and legs, which usually brightens first in male kants..
So it is difficult to draw a correct conclusion, given the observations of tettigonia species.

Maybe a rhinoceros, but it doesn't have a horn at all...) A female?
I surprised you with my wingspan! It is about the size of the largest water fringe or water lover, but the wingspan is almost 2 times larger. And at the same time, they are removed under the shell so quickly, neatly and elegantly that you can not say about floaters. Well, at the withers a little higher than both, the first one is generally flat..
It can hang when flying, at first I thought that the hawk moth is huge, some kind of turns... well, I knocked it down with my hand.
I'm a complete zero in Zhukovichi, so excuse me..

I saw the same rhinos,the length was up to 4 centimeters and the wingspan was up to 9 centimeters.We crashed into the pillars.And we flew late in the evening.

GrigorY66, how are your sedakovs or Ussuriensis faring now, who have you still hatched from eggs?

I am, as always, in the repertoire of scientific facts, you, as always, in the repertoire of fantasy and delitantism. You have learned to keep and breed many species of erect-winged birds-you are honored and praised, your advice on this issue will be gratefully accepted, but when it comes to anatomy and physiology, please listen to the words of at least some knowledgeable people in these areas. Fantasizing is not a method of scientific knowledge. The fact that the insect dries up after molting is called the epicuticle, in grasshoppers it is colorless and translucent (which can be easily observed on the example of the exuvium), the layers of the cuticle that lie deeper during life are always in a moist state. After molting, they do not dry out, but harden. The epicuticle is impervious to water. Moistening of the underlying layers occurs from the inside - from the hypodermis. The hypodermis is formed by living cells, they contain pigments that give the skin color. Some of the pigment can also be released by these cells into the deeper layers of the cuticle. In some insects, they also penetrate the epicuticle, but not in our grasshoppers. Your speculations that tettigonias turn yellow from drying out their covers are also easily refuted by the simple fact that nature is actually a lot drier than your insectariums. For example, our Viridissims haven't seen a drop of water for almost a month, but they don't turn yellow at all. Although in your opinion, their chitin should have dried completely by now. And the thing is that our foliage turns yellow later than the last tettigonia dies. But in the forest zone and on infertile soils, individual trees with yellow crowns often appear from July, that is, before the local cantans take wing. Hence the yellowness of these. This is a somewhat simplified explanation that does not take into account the species-specific color changes that obviously occur (not in the principles of the mechanism itself, but in the level of its sensitivity).

The educational program is completed. I don't know if you were able to take it personally, but at least it will prevent your posts from leading readers of this topic astray into the dark dead end of obscurantism.

.....Exuvia.... - where are there such words?) Latin something or other..
About viridissim, I wrote that I noticed long ago that they do not lighten. Although I met some individuals almost completely faded, but extremely rarely.
And no fantasizing - only live observations and long-standing ones, mostly with cantanzes. And at the expense of the color for the environment-here I definitely do not agree

Kolez, as described above (where there is a photo with a paddock), there is only one left. Ussuriensis male. The day before yesterday I saw him, he was already with swollen rudiments and ready for molting in imago. I think it's already faded. Tomorrow, if there is a sun - I'll look in, maybe I'll take a picture if possible. And in cloudy weather, due to its specific appearance, it hides in the thick of the grass, well... almost like decticus.

Your "live observations" with the eyes alone are unable to generate the concept of "chitin fading from drying out", this is pure fantasy. About the paint job: I personally observed the adjustment of color to the color of the background in many species of stick insects, praying mantises, and grasshoppers. For example, do you know that if a bee larva is planted on a substrate of white napkins, it will grow a completely white (well, maybe with a slight cream tint) praying mantis? And the moisture has nothing to do with it. The color of the insetarium walls is also not so important, the color of what is inside is important: leaves of forage plants, branches for crawling, etc.

Bogomolov did not keep, except for a couple of times and then imago.
I know that if you put a ditched black squint in a white basin , it will take the same white-cream shade within 5 minutes or less (here instant masking works)
Here the empusa mantis is gray, but it is also found on flowers and in green plants.
And why in a green garden with green plants (potato tops and lettuce), the blacksmiths also faded as they moulted?
And in natural conditions, I have long noticed that the more open the places are to the sun and less moisture , the brighter the cantans are. In the forest, quite the opposite is true, and in autumn the edges are greener and softer, but I don't mean the late phases. It's always been that way, as far as I can remember.
The fact that it is not the chitin itself that fades, but its inner layer-I agree, if you open it and hold the nail from the inside, the inner layer is removed and the chitin becomes colorless, like polyethylene. But in light dried ones, it is much rougher and thicker. What about roughened light brown wings, as opposed to soft green ones-this is also a disguise?)
There are no precise definitions on your part, expressed in examples of all sorts of southern species. Maybe some of them are green crawling in the desert.

Here are the observations made in this week's photo.
And the Kants who live in Volkhov gardening are very different in age now.
And some large beetle, unusual for this area, caught flying at night on the railway tracks, may have arrived from the south by accident in a car with millet

Didn't these edges eat each other up? Big question?
Does the beetle resemble a female rhinoceros beetle?

What kind of empusa is never green?

ENO, I understand that you are such a great expert in the physiological features of erect-winged organisms, especially southern species, which I don't know much about, just from traveling. I have only kant, decticus and Rozzel's horse race in the Leningrad region. Well, I'm not talking about point populations of swordsmen and plates. I won't argue with that, and it would be stupid of me. I tried to get away with this type of praying mantis, but you refuted))
In current situations, I describe the life structure and external physical changes that relate specifically to the northern Volkhov KANTS! I won't lose to anyone in them, because I've watched them for quite a few years. And the pigmented changes in chitin, prdon, and its lower layer described above are really related to temperature, humidity, and lighting. And we will diverge in this topic.
But with the empusa mantis I'll butt a little) And why is the larva in early October? Does it hibernate?

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Not gobbled up, if you do not put in one cage or any other "room"
And the rhino already seems to have been identified a little higher.
And you didn't understand me then, about the content of the old edging about water... so I thought

So I can't agree about water and edging. We have too much of this water and it is a problem. It is its excess.

Do they need water to drink?

I have only kant, decticus and Rozzel's horse race in the Leningrad region. Well, I'm not talking about point populations of swordsmen and plates.

There is also Metrioptera brachyptera.

Alex, and now the correct answer. I probably didn't finish the explanation about this.
1)Old Kant, in our country, gets wet in the fall under the daily rain, absorbing water from the body's surface continuously and from the air. Therefore, at home, there is a sharp change in the lack of water. It starts to dry out, wings, limbs, whiskers. Chitin just squeezes it. Therefore, if it does not absorb water every 2 hours, it will inevitably die. And creating a humid environment in the cage is also a disastrous option.
2) You can hang a jar just above the tulle cage with a protruding eternally wet gauze, you will drink from it, since you will simply get tired of spraying so often and there will be no time. And no drinkers at the bottom - it's not a hamster.
3)+ other conditions, low temperature, ventilation, etc. described above.
If someone has lived an old one, namely an old edging caught in captivity at the end of September or October for more than 3-4 months-let them give their own examples of content. As it is, I'm not going to argue with anyone.. Thank you.

Kolez, how are your viridissima, locusts and horse racing doing?

Oh how! While I was away, Grigory had already observed the ways of ignorance before the grasshoppers absorbed water through their cuticles. And the soil of enlightenment turned out to be completely barren, so I won't even try to sow anything there in the future.

This post was edited by ENO - 11.08.2017 23: 59

Oh how! While I was away, Grigory had already observed the ways of ignorance before the grasshoppers absorbed water through their cuticles. And the soil of enlightenment turned out to be completely barren, so I won't even try to sow anything there in the future.

Tinplate

Can the pan express its claim in a more meaningful way? Does he also think that grasshoppers drink "skin"?

Decticus with very short wings is Decticus verrocivorus loudoni.

I decided to check it out; I Googled it. I found some very short-nosed photos:


And another thing: I understand that this is not even a subspecies of verrucivorus, but a separate species-Decticus loudoni. There is also another similar species - Decticus aprutianus, also short-winged. It is found in Italy.

This post was edited by Decticus - 13.08.2017 16: 08

Decticus, horse racing is already all imago. Of the locusts, one individual is an adult, the other must shed today, like a female and a male, It may be possible to breed offspring, only one viridissima.
I'll upload a photo in the evening.

Photos of my grasshoppers and locusts:

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Yes.... Pure Locusta migratoria. It usually happens in the North Caucasus, sometimes in skoplnei, unlike the Egyptian filly, which also raped the Sochi coast.
Viri on the yellow tansy is a handsome man! More moisture on the walls of the cage and wind from the windows.
The gray jumps in the photo also pleased

Found today predimago conocephalus discolor in the same place where Metrioptera brachyptera are found.

And this year I was left without grasshoppers at all.
Now the temperature jumps day/night are already so big that taking grasshoppers home is just ruining. Disgusting summer. We'll have to wait for the next one.

Decticus, and in what area do you catch brachypter? I only found them in forest clearings.

Alex017, I agree about summer. It's hard to even choose a day to have a day off with a warm day without rain.

Decticus, and in what area do you catch brachypter?

In a field on the bank of a small river.

Oh, you're so cute... we are trying to convey everything based on the experiments of bookish long term observations which did not exist at all? Or reading literature, but there... people were not based on experiments, dear Luhansk friend. Their experiments are a maximum of a week's observation.. Yeah... like jee... I understand they learned their internal structure, but in a short time. They didn't keep them for months.. And this WILL NEVER BE PROVEN FOR SURE until a person keeps an old northern individual for more than 5 months after capture.. The wings don't dry...???)) ENO, don't make me laugh at my ragged last year's cages! which I'm still too lazy to restore(no offense)
Better share what new things you've seen in the last week in the life of the 48° 34 ' Erectus and the weather? just wondering. Our weather warmed up and all the edging bands finally started singing. Everything! Except.... my baby, who is now pre-pre-pre)
I have another topic that will surprise you. The wings and veins of the male chirping organ grow in adults with age, depending on the temperature..... their sound changes to a high whistling one. But not all of them. I'll write it later. Delirium again? No! I can't waaaam prove it here... again, please excuse me.

Swordsman and swamp double-spotted horse racing. In what area of the Leningrad region was the swordsman found?

GrigorY66, this swordsman I found in the Gatchina district (on the outskirts of the city of Gatchina). Since 2012, I have been finding them in various places, in the park and in fields in small numbers.