Maintenance of Orthoptera

And the Perm region, as I understand it, is the territory of the cantonment? Have you ever met singing individuals?

Yes, these grasshoppers survive until October and sing, especially on the tops of huge trees. They are also found below, on the grass, but less often. I have a tradition of looking for them on fall camping trips... like a summer memory. At home, they die the next morning for unknown reasons. Therefore, you should NOT take them home!!
I have long experimentally found out that it makes sense to bring home blacksmiths until August, it is better to take larvae at all.

Alex, I know the reason for the rapid death of old individuals brought from a cool street, but I probably can't express it in a clear form. In addition, our dear comrade ENO is very fond of correcting the actions and names I describe))) maybe I'll make it clearer later)

Long-familiar observations. This species tends to sing at such low temperatures, especially when the wind is blowing. And if the autumn night is clear and humid and calm, they sleep covered with dew. The wind just dries them out and they become more active. The lowest temperature during the chirping of the cantans on a windy evening in gardening was observed at +3 with the onset of dusk, then stalled, and the temperature fell even lower. A very slow, lost creak.
And viridissima pulled out the maximum only by +11, and then not for a long time.

No one seems to claim scientific accuracy here.
From a practical point of view, I would very much like to take these autumn grasshoppers, but it doesn't work out.
In our country, on autumn nights, the cantance sings loudly at +10. That is, if the blacksmiths sing, it means that it is warm outside. So I was guided when going fishing earlier in my childhood in the fall.
It can be barely audible singing and at a lower temperature. But during the day, they also sing when the thermometer reaches +10...+12. If it's lower , they don't sing.
Males and females of these grasshoppers survive equally long. I found them of both sexes in October.
As it so happened, I didn't particularly like to keep cantans. They sing too loudly and constantly, and eat each other also constantly. I.e. they eat each other even in 20-40l cages with the content of 2 pcs.
In 1l banks kept just albifrons. Normally, they grow to an adult. Tested many times. But according to the rules strictly in the bank.
Now I have a feed base of crickets that need to be fed to someone, because three frogs can not cope, maybe I will take someone predatory...

Southern decticus live well in aquariums?Albifrons skoko keep?

He can't handle the crickets. It's too greasy. I mean, it can't cope with digestion, which is ill in a confined space, for lack of a lot of jumping and flying. Better than moths, babblers, and grasses.
And after them, it will sit and swell up, and then it will generally be healthy)

Nikita, southern decticus-they live very poorly in an aquarium and any garden with solid walls. They break their paws as a result of powerful jumps. And you can keep albifrons as much as you want, if you can=)

Well, when everyone in imago fades, I'll release it on June 16.

I didn't notice anyone breaking anything on the glass. On the other hand, I didn't hold several pieces at once, there was no one they could jump away from in a panic. And the spaces were big. But there was a different kind of problem: at the slightest lack of animal food, grasshoppers (both decticus and tettigonia) chewed off various parts of their bodies, starting with their legs and ending with their ovipositors. In this regard, after a couple of years, I refused to keep them. With small species of grasshoppers, as well as with dybki, such cases of samoyed food have never occurred.

It is very doubtful that crickets are much fatter than moths. Although moth-moth is different, male moths are probably not fat at all, let alone fingerflies... And in females of all kinds of eggs to the eyeballs, and eggs are the yolk, and the yolk is you know what. So there is an idea that it was not fat that was harmful in crickets, but something else. In any case, for reptiles, crickets are considered one of the most dietary ANIMALS, unlike, for example, the larvae of blackbirds. Protein, fat, and carbohydrate levels have been measured repeatedly, and crickets have far from the worst results. But no one checked the moths.

Crickets and marbles are ideal food for reptiles. And for spiders, they are like dragons-they will digest everything, since digestion takes place outside the stomach).
But what would the Kuznetsk ate themselves-this is the first time I hear. I've never noticed or observed anything like this. Interesting....

You probably just never underfed them.

I'm fine,I haven't seen any self-cannibalism at all.

 
It is very doubtful that crickets are much fatter than moths.

Drosophila is many times fatter than cricket, but the ratio is different for other nutrients.
I didn't come across any data on imagology, although it would be interesting, it's also afag.
I haven't found any data on butterflies (including mandukas, fireflies, etc. cultivated) at all, including on bourgeois resources..

In theory, they should be different from crickets and flies.
The question is which way.
If by analogy with drosophila, then the flying insect should definitely be drier, so as not to carry water, other things are a question.
Males and females should also be different.

But what would the Kuznetsk ate themselves-this is the first time I hear. I've never noticed or observed anything like this.

We've never eaten ourselves, but we've never eaten each other, including in situ.
I have repeatedly observed the same dybok eating all sorts of grasshoppers, and grasshoppers eating small grasshoppers and fillies.

This post was edited by xoshAmadam - 05/24/2017 22: 22

I didn't mean the word "fatter" in the literal sense. Just sver for a blacksmith, and especially an old cantans - a very large and juicy prey, moreover, if its living space is limited to a cage. The pishchevarilka will not cope and he will die.
It is quite another matter if a young June viridissima, flying freely in the thickets of the valley of some Turkish river, devours a large female bimaculate or campestris on the embankment - then she will have nothing, she will digest it into powder and ask for more, like a dragonfly.

So you can feed fruit and boiled walnuts, and give crickets once a week.
Grasshoppers do not move much in nature (the hedgehog is a proud bird, if you don't kick it, it won't fly). Fishing in the same place, a grasshopper sings in the same place." Every day. Let it mix maybe half a meter up and down on the grass, a tree. That's all it takes to move it.
Even take a clearing in the forest. It is small, limited, blacksmiths sit on it and move maybe a meter, or maybe not. They don't fly like dragonflies, not even close.

I lost one decticus, maybe from the heat, I did not eat each other last year and died from the heat, I probably need to put a fan .

Alex, they still fly! Large, full-winged viridissims even hover in the air before settling down, like an imperial sentinel. But all this in the heat. And the cantance on fine days can shift significantly. Here it cracks on the bushes, and in the evening it got wet below and he went up to a tall aspen tree where it is dry and windy.

Cantans descend from the trees when the heat is not on foot. And plan down at an acute angle to lower plants. Because of their wing structure, they can't gain altitude like the Viridissima and long-winged decticus (which fly worse than the viridae), but they can perform maneuvers. I remember throwing cantans from a high-rise building, so they first fell smoothly to the bottom, then turned around and planned to the tops of the crowns of trees standing in the courtyard and began to sing black for a while.

Long-winged verrucivores, caught in a strong wind, fly dozens (if not hundreds) of km. However, only soon after winging, until they became heavy. Once in my memory, they fell on Donetsk, resembling a locust invasion. Viridissims flutter like butterflies at night, you just need to be able to see them in the semi-darkness. But better flyers from grasshoppers, perhaps, phaneropters.

Nikita, ch. t. d. So far only one person has died, let the others out.

I'm doing fine.Soon one will be imago.

Well, I do not know... maybe they fly farther south.
The cantance was sung all summer on one bush. Offsets are zero. The bush is right under the windows, I visually found it many times from July to September.

If a grasshopper regularly strides in one bush, this does not mean that it stays there forever. Moreover, it is far from a fact that it is the same male chirping all the time. It's just that there are particularly attractive places for males who want to chatter. Naturally, kantans as a flyer is not very good, but the legs are very developed.

In a good trump bush or a clump of nettles under the support of a power line, there are usually several of them, one chirps - the rest are pinched. Then in the fall there is one-usually the latest and smallest.
In general, with the onset of cold weather, they can move from the forest or field, for example, to a running dense bush under the windows of some Khrushchev, located on the sunny side, and spend the rest of the allotted time there. Also in the lower layers of the bush, even when the male finally disappears, you can see several old females basking in the sun. So is viridissima. And the old caudata and the remaining individuals of the prus are usually on the edges of harvested arable land, in untilled mixed grasses and partially remaining cereals.

Our grasshopper area was limited to one poly-garden between two entrances, an asphalt road and a house. The blacksmith squawked there all summer long.
More precisely, all the years. Yes, there were also females of course, I saw them all the time.
By autumn, especially smart ones are pinching wells and heating mains or high trees.

One has wing buds far from the pronotum, which means that it will soon be an adult.

Pre-pre imago, Nikita. And she in your conditions on-lyubasu came out x.....vo. either these rudiments are crumpled, or the paws are clumsy, and it's easier - the individual is dehydrated and sluggish, there are not enough free movements. Or much easier - wet and sour in the stagnant air in a tight jar. find a way out! Another jamb because there is no wind. Open the window and put it in a draught-you can do it in the sun, but only when the wind is blowing.
I understand you're learning, watching. Just like me at the time

Can I tell you something about the contents of albifrons in cans?

Nikita, this is the end of my answers to your demands. Too stupid questions. If you don't catch up yourself, then take the experience described by others.
Yes,, it is possible, of course it is possible, and in banks,, but!! - only knowing the structure and biorhythm of their natural life. Me and a few other blacksmiths ' monsters have been trying to make sense of you for a year now.... so... sorry (practice practice practice!!!
And when I started , I had no one to tell, and all I heard was: "Once again it will chirp - it will fly out of the window with a jar... - and flew"Or boiled in a closed jar, so that the chirping could not be heard. What kind of advice is there? "Only if you throw it out and don't bring it in the house again) Familiar? And I didn't give a damn about it from the highest mosque)
This interest has never been relevant to society.. and especially now, our modern human "glamorous-pretentious-money-babsko-iphonno-lykovaya" morality will fill it out more and more every year.. Love your hobby and be yourself!

I have 8 verrocyvorus,1 albifrons,2 glabras,1 caudata in the bank and that's it!How many skates need to be caught per day in order to feed such a herd.

This depends on what day from the start of the experiment, as the number of livestock will decrease with each one.

Alex, and who else is there... - I formulated the promised formula for the content of October's contents taken from the cold. Chattering and empty, eggless, dying females. You can use dectecus, skachek, and viridissima.
1. Having caught a brown old individual of cantans, which probably creaked on a half-bald alder tree near the railway extension , we bring it to the house, put it in a jar, spray it with water, cover it up tightly and put it in the refrigerator.
2. The next day we take it out on the loggia and put it in the cage (repeatedly described by me above)
3. We put it under a constantly open window (until frost)
4. And the first 4 days we start to unsolder it! When he is sitting on the tulle, we take a spray bottle and spray a little into his mouth under the tentacles. It accepts the drop. He leans against it and it disappears. And so on every 2 hours, especially in the morning. Except late at night, until you fall asleep. And no drinkers!!! He will never find them himself, sitting stupidly at the top of the cage.
5. Like the sun-let it bask in any way. On top of the cage, attach the dandelion color to a clothespin. Keep a few extra pieces in the refrigerator. He almost eats the entire flower at a time, especially the female. There is always a late layer of them, even after the first covers near the hatch can be found. It's like a drug to them, they grew up on these flowers as primroses and do not disdain, even when they are dying and do not eat anything else. This is what I practiced as a child in the distant 90's.
6. After a couple of days, the restoration of suckers begins, and dark spots go away. Except for the deep black ones. We keep them separately. So, when they come to their senses, recover and the male sings (and he will sing only at dusk, occasionally in the sun), after a while from evening to dark, you can put the female in the cage to the male. In the morning, a spermatophore will hang 50% under her ovipositor. Females can mate even when the death throes are empty, but only after recovery.
7. When the dandelions disappear, feed them white flapping berries that grow on city bushes or black and red mountain ash. Don't use salad.
8.On the street minus. Close the window on the loggia. Open the door to the kitchen (or room). When the sun is out-opening the fort and warming up. etc. Then, when it gets really cold , I put it in the kitchen (the lodge is in my kitchen) and put it under the open door of the loggia. The chill is coming. Its trill should strictly always be slow! It is worth giving him at least a day at room temperature - he starts to randomly crawl around the cage, and then dies. Just close the door in the kitchen (or where you have a loggia) that would not interfere with sleep. And then it will blow a draft and your wife will catch a cold=). So he lives for 5 or more months.
P.S. if you don't understand what he wrote, please excuse me.....

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I let them all out, the longest lived female caught on Yegorin place on June 4, she lived with me for 14 days, and sednya was released.

Well done for letting everyone out, they'll thank you

Alex, and who else is there... - I formulated the promised formula for the content of October's contents
P.S. if I didn't write it correctly, please excuse me.....

I realized long ago that it was the cold.
Next, what kind of water are we talking about if it doesn't rain on a rare day?
Dandelion really give at least all winter. This is quite feasible.
Everything remains everywhere, it is not possible to keep the house just warm. And you have the same result. Opening the window is not an option at all.
For long-term maintenance, you need to take grasshoppers now and not let them mate. Then, without any open windows, they live up to snow and even sometimes longer with high-quality feeding.
The same is true for bronzes, which I also kept before the snow.
Thanks!

And what are the bronzes? Metallics I have lived for a year without any abstinence.