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This species is identified correctly.
This species is identified correctly.
Identified by V. S. Kononenko, Institute of Biology and Soil Science FEB RAS.
Alexandr, thanks!
Macylinea arionides.
Everes argiades.
There is a link to Oleg Berlov's pics http://babochki.narod.ru/ly18pr.html.
I might be wrong but isn't Everes argiades=Cupido argiades ?
Lymantria dispar?
There was a question about Celastrina argiolus.Ya seen in an Internet link that this butterfly in the Far East is not. It seems convincing? But: 1. The determinant Kurentsova, page 143 there is a description butterflies Cyaniris argiolus L (copper-butterfly spring). In an Internet it says that it is an invalid name. What kind of butterfly in question and how it is now called? 2. There are ...
Petr! What's wrong? Looking at the photo that reads "Yuri Semejkin, Lepidoptera.ru" as usual. Click on it, then see... Yury, then something illegible like Sokolkov, Lepidoptera.pro. I've checked the neighbour photos, no such things on there!
Evgeny, sorry for any confusion. Comprehension repaired!
14.02.2013, Evgeny Karolinsky "Yury, I e-mailed you not to flood the website. :)" I didn't e-mail anyone about this discussion. All messages from me are here. What's going on? Petr! I've got an e-mail from Evgeny on skippers. Evgeny, is it yours? Or spam?
Petr! As I see, message board is already out of the question? Pity then. Still it would be a great thing to discuss doubtful cases, check different literature, clear out such things for everyone here. Don't be afraid that folks won't handle with engine like it was with Comstock's system, or IDs based on a certain spot or band. Eventually something new will appear on the website. Japanese, for ...
"13.02.2013 3:29, Evgeny Karolinsky I'm familiar with Y. A. Chistyakov's publication, holding it in my hands now. Sadly there are several serious mistakes made on the identification by photo (blues and skippers)." Won't comment the mistakes. As for skippers, everything seems right instead. So again words without proofs. Please give me the species and page, I'll see what you're talking about? ...
My part begins with "As for the statement "There is no Celastrina argiolus in Primorye", please elaborate where it actually is? Lazy to check the web now. So I ask you to refer to Y. A. Chistyakov...".
"1. There is no Celastrina argiolus in Primorye, even somewhere nearby. See Sinev's Catalogue of the Lepidoptera of Russia, already discussed here." Petr, can't get why my comment reads as its of A. Zhakov?
Petr! I've tried to question here the very identification process. Now look at this 11.02.2013 20:33, Alexandr Zhakov: "Both Evgeny already said it right, now I'll try to explain it more thoroughly. Also this is a clear example of two burning questions about common names and locations. So the answer to Yury. 1. There is no Celastrina argiolus in Primorye, even somewhere nearby. See Sinev's ...
According to the Institute of Biology and Soil Science FEB RAS, this is a new, undescribed species. It actually can be moved to I. punctigera since no other variants published yet.
This one is one of the "earliest bird" amidst the blues, and that's the origin of its Russian common name "spring blue". What do you have against argiolus? Let's not just say "neither this, nor that". Anybody willing to clear this out? Otherwise all foresaid is proofless.
E. A. Belyaev from the Institute of Biology and Soil Sciences FEB RAS reckons this is some Yponomeuta moth, the family Yponomeutidae.
Glaucorhoe unduliferaria (Motschulsky, 1861). Identified by E. A. Belyaev, Institute of Biology and Soil Sciences FEB RAS.
Glaucorhoe unduliferaria (Motschulsky, 1861). Identified by E. A. Belyaev, Institute of Biology and Soil Sciences FEB RAS.
Limacodidae family. Identified by V. S. Kononenko, Institute of Biology and Soil Sciences FEB RAS... Species is troublesome....
Lomaspilis marginata (Linnaeus, 1758). Identified by E. A. Belyaev.
Ampypira pyramidea.
Ampypira pyramidea.
I already entered the names. Where are they? Ampypira pyramidea.
Identified by V. S. Kononenko, Institute of Biology and Soil Sciences FEB RAS.
Identified by V. S. Kononenko, Institute of Biology and Soil Sciences FEB RAS.
Identified by V. S. Kononenko, Institute of Biology and Soil Sciences FEB RAS.
Identified by V. S. Kononenko, Institute of Biology and Soil Sciences FEB RAS.
Identified by V. S. Kononenko, Institute of Biology and Soil Sciences FEB RAS.
Got a permission to add the reference: identified by V. S. Kononenko, Institute of Biology and Soil Sciences FEB RAS.
"Yury, why not to talk this over on the very species photo page" Petr! I don't object discussions on the species photo page (when you know the thing you talk about), but there is plenty of lepidoptera (not necessarily mine) that actually have no any discussions about. Would be great to have so-called collage or summary to have distinctions clearly seen, even elaborated in this specific ...
"Yury, why not to pose questions from amateurs to pros right now, what does the website lack?" Petr! I'd like at times to know something more of taxonomy, to understand the core of a certain ID, to have some clear photo (drawing) explaining the thing. It comes often that not only I can't identify the specimen but may even confuse families, like with this moth, which I deemed tortrix before ...
There do exist websites with such discussions already, but with cuts amidst you all (first, taxonomists), maybe we should engage amateurs with their dilettante questions, why not? Besides, some realized and use that. Truth should be sought.
Why, this may depend on how good one knows a certain group. There is an Eastern proverb "Teacher grows being learned from everybody". We might create kind of plantarium website where amateurs can talk to pros (which are, in fact, few on here). Sure, pros don't have much time, but at least some things get answered, and many people will be able to know more... Maybe, things get better in Russia ...
A. Y. Matov from the Zoological Institute RAS has different opinion, I cite him below, with his consent: "I deem this moth is Cosmia unicolor (Staudinger,1892), a close relative of the trans-palearctic C. affinis (which is in Primorye too), from which the first one differs with pattern and colour. Cosmia camptostigma looks a little bit different (also larger in average). All the best, Yury.
Honeysuckle is Lonicera maackii, and the larva is still not identified.
Should be changed to Pieris melete?
Spilosoma punctarium, identified at Botanical Garden Institute FEB RAS.
Spilosoma punctarium, identified at Botanical Garden Institute FEB RAS.
Alexandr, thanks! If I got it right, P. heparana (most probable) is absent in Vladivostok. So is it in any way worthful to shoot tortrix moths? In the already past year I chanced to talk over with some entomologist, so he said that was nearly of no hope...
This species is identified correctly.
Dmitry! I'm not biologist, just amateur photographer, I shoot whatever alive. I'm either curious about what is there beside the camera, though can't ID everything I see. As for guides, I use Kurentsov's one and also get some info in the web. When possible, I ask pros if they're not in fields or busy with reports, and every thing identified by them is always provided with reference and job ...
Petr! I've got it done before. Tried also to add this one with the larva photo number, but got message that both photos had been already got grouped. Why for anyway need to add numbers when it's already seen as "another photo of the same specimen".
Korscheltellus variabilis, identified at FEBRAS Institute of Biology and Soil Sciences.
Petr! It works. Everything's good!
#13784 got of this caterpillar. So I enter this number, then press, but nothing changes. Thus I add it here.
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