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03.02.2016 16:35, Hierophis

03.02.2016 19:52, ИНО

Oh, how neglected is everything? Well, what does Pan's kayak have to do with my soap dish? If pan wants to test my words experimentally, then the way to get somewhere is A550. Here, for 150 UAH they sell (if they haven't already sold it) with shipping across Ukraine, however, with a broken lid, but this is a pan to fix for one tooth. Here it is already necessary to check what affects where, and what when it highlights, and when it does not.

04.02.2016 4:31, ИНО

I also took some pictures of wasp nests (and for one and one fly's nest). This time, I mostly overcame the shaking. At the same time, I tested different modes of operation of the illuminator. The diode is powered through the native board of the flashlight, there is a switch there. Oh, it's a pity there is no SOS signal in this model, otherwise it would be fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMrxqU1Lk7c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ_7CDm8e6I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVV2evqzYZ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVcSjjl0Lkk

But kotsaet YouTube just brutally. In the original, the picture is almost standard television quality, and after Google processing it becomes similar to the result of shooting with an antediluvian mobile phone while drunk. Previously, it seems, there was no such tinplate. Perhaps it's time to move away from this miracle of enemy cybernetics, to some other resources.

This post was edited by ENO-02/04/2016 04: 31

06.02.2016 2:04, ИНО

While Pan went to sea, I took some pictures here.

First, I received images using LED lighting instead of flash. As I expected, there was not enough light, and it was distributed very unevenly, the ISO had to be raised to 400, with all the consequences...

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I shot from a tripod at ISO 200 by increasing the shutter speed to 1/8 of a second. But I didn't like the result compared to shooting with a flash and a reflector, although, in principle, it's quite amazing:

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I found one advantage : the light background is not as blinding as when using the flash (but it's still blinding). The macro nozzle weighs 15.7 g together with the lighting nozzle put on it, it looks like this::

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I now use this kit when shooting with a flash, for aiming.

Secondly, the first fruits of stacking. Definable?

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The bad thing is that the size of the wasp allowed it to fit entirely into the frame only when the zoom was reduced, which also included the edge zone of the lens with the strongest aberrations-the head and "ass" were smeared.

For comparison - full-face of the same insect, there is a full zoom and alignment exactly in the center of the frame, as a result of distortion is practically absent.

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So my nozzle is more suitable for smaller objects (but not too small), average between "standard wasps" and "standard ants". To expand the size range of objects, you can't do without other lenses.

Third, I made a video of the mantis larva eating drosophila, but I haven't decided where to put it yet, I don't trust YouTube anymore.

This post was edited by ENO-06.02.2016 02: 14

06.02.2016 13:28, Кархарот

Male Euodynerus notatus.
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06.02.2016 14:00, Hierophis

Male Euodynerus notatus.

Ta, so not interestingsmile.gif
And here's what's inside, determine-that's it-yes )))

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07.02.2016 0:10, Кархарот

I'm not psychic.

07.02.2016 1:21, ИНО

To do this, Pan did not need an infrared, but an X-ray camera to make.

Today I walked with the nozzle all the way to the beam. The weather was so-so: +1, the sun mostly shone, but regularly hid in the mud, then behind small clouds, gusts of wind chilling. Nevertheless, there were animals near the walls of buildings with a southern exposure, and in the ravine on scraps, some even flew. But I will write about this in more detail in the topic "winter insects". I'm going to focus on photography right now. It turned out that in the sun, the already poor A550 display is useless a little less than completely. That is, it can only be used to understand that the object falls into the frame, but whether it falls into focus-no. This was helped by the ability of the camera, which I had almost never used before - the shooting mode in short bursts, something like 2 frames per second. I simply brought the lens to a distance determined from memory, looked so that the object was approximately in the center of the screen and, holding the trigger, moved the camera back and forth for a couple of cm. Of course, most of the product obtained in this way was not thrown away, but there were also pearls. In several cases, we even managed to collect some stacks. True, the process of gluing them together for hemorrhoids turned out to be exorbitant, no comparison with what I just saw in the pictures of that wasp taken from a tripod. And the quality also turned out to be much lower (the stacks are several times smaller, only 2-4 suitable pictures, plus shaking hands, plus a lack of light due to which I had to set ISO 200, and shutter speed). But I never used the flash once, because it recharges for a few seconds like ten, so fast shooting in series would not work out.

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And finally, especially for Pan Stepovoi ladybug:

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This is only what I mastered to process today, a lot of things are left for tomorrow.

08.02.2016 0:07, Hierophis

Ezox, your pictures are all kind of dull for some reason, despite the fact that yes, there is a drawing of details, but the pictures are flat, with very low gradient detail, which makes the whole picture look like porridge even with sharpness.
Look, Ezox, how it should be - in the topic about winter insects, since after all, there really is a lot of offtop here, everything, the R & D stage has already been completed lol.gif

In general, you must pay me deductions for this idea with nosey, because otherwise Ezox would not have moved,
I don't need rubles, I agree to take diamonds lol.gif

http://joinfo.ua/sociaty/1149275_Novosti-N...elat-uglya.html

08.02.2016 3:44, ИНО

What, the oil exchange rate failed, and now the ban has turned its attention to diamonds?

08.02.2016 15:32, Hierophis

Esox, are you really a switchman? That's just carp I not only do not sell, but also do not put on display, and you publish pictures, so let's send diamonds, and do not Julia umnik.gif

08.02.2016 17:37, ИНО

Pan, as usual, didn't get it. I did not mean that pan sells carp caught using my method (although who knows), but that by catching them he saves a lot on food expenses, that is, he gets quite a real (and significant) financial benefit. I, on the other hand, get nothing but aesthetic pleasure from macro images using the Pan method (which, paradoxically, Pan himself mastered, which is only in theory). The latter, through the publication of images on this forum, I already share in abundance and intend to continue this thankless task.

08.02.2016 17:48, Hierophis

Yeah, I'm thinking, Ezox, how many carp do you catch "by your own method"? )) 1 carp at least in season is there? And then, I see, the method of macro photography through the lens you have mastered something like the method of catching carp on foam weep.gif

Yes, you have pictures without a lynza better than with a lynza even if, what is the use of your nose, if it does not give either an increase in the distance to the object of shooting or an increase in the aperture, or GRIP? The whole point of the snout, which I made it for, is to get the opportunity to take photos of insects from as far away as possible. And the result, by the way, I liked it, look again at the pictures of flies in the topic about winter insects, except for the blue meat, estimate their size, and realize that these pictures were really made with hands, from almost a meter distance umnik.gifBy the way, these flies are very timid, and even 10 cm do not let them in.
It is clear that for this you will have to pay the price in the form of distortions, but then again, either this or that))

08.02.2016 18:35, ИНО

Yeah, skittish. I got a black one on my arm today. And when I go to the beam in the spring for a big need, so there you can take pictures of these "timid" people at least from a millimeter distance.

About carp: In order for the figures to be comparable, it is necessary to carry out an Ingul to Donetsk.

As for the goals of the macro-attack: Pan clearly has perverted ideas about them. The real purpose of such attachments, reflected in the name , is to increase the zoom level, i.e., the resolution, of course, at the cost of reducing the field of view. And from a distance of a meter with such things, no one but Pan does not shoot. And the GRIP of macro attachments is always small (although not necessarily as much as it turned out for me), otherwise no one would have been staking and writing programs for this case. So, according to the totality of signs, Pan is not a macro-nozzle at all, but some previously unknown invention for photographing small objects at long distances. Therefore, I take my owl back: I do not use the innovative pan method at all, but the traditional one. The only merit of pan is that he pushed the course of my thoughts in the direction of macro-problems in general, and that's all. For this, perhaps, you can set only small deductions, say 1.5%. So please take honestly earned 1.5% of 0 UAH/RUR / USD / EUR at your choice.

08.02.2016 22:46, Evgenich

Southern China. 2011 The height is about 2 thousand meters.

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15.02.2016 16:02, Hierophis

I took the advice of Carcharot, tried to take a picture with the ka kraz flash, the conditions were suitable-cloudy, dark, I had to take pictures without a flash on ISO200 and set the aperture to 4.
I think it's clear where the picture is, the spider is about 7mm, the shooting distance is 15cm, full frame.
IMHO, it's not good, first of all, a long nozzle closes the flash, but even if it didn't close it, it turns out to be oversharp due to contrast, without the flash, the sharpness is certainly not the same, but the transitions are all normal.

Ah and to quite not of) until fotkal, suddenly (tm) arrived melifera, this in overcast and under T OK +12 and under wind, sat on grass, I only managed couple of times svotkat vlet on maximum zoom, only perestroivatsya-she and was washed away ) By the way, where the lack of focus steers, while the autofocus was driving, it would fly away 5 times)

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15.02.2016 17:37, ИНО

Well, Pan gives! Of course, the flash itself under the "nosadku", especially such a hefty one as Pan's (in fact, he already has a whole second lens with all sorts of different elements), will not get, it's clear as day, But there are two simple ways out: the first is a reflector, like mine, the second is a diffuser, it is made of polyethylene (heat insulator, shockproof packaging, sold on the market) in the form of a large disk with an eccentric hole for the lens (that is, the "nose" of the pan), the wide side is located on top of the lens opposite the flash. I didn't use this one, because my flash is located in the wrong place, but for Pan's kayak, this scheme should work, in theory, only the flash may have to be adjusted manually. There are also a bunch of more exotic ways to redirect the flash light under the lens, such as light-conducting boxes and even optical fiber bundles.

Based on the photos, I will say the following. To be honest, when Pan posted a photo of a flower in the next topic, I really thought that his macro-crime was better than mine. Now I see that I shouldn't have bothered, because she totally sucks. Even if there are no longer those terrible aberrations (tm) that were before, but the sharpness did not appear. I wonder what resolution (in strokes per millimeter) this system has?

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15.02.2016 18:14, Hierophis

  

Based on the photos, I will say the following. To be honest, when Pan posted a photo of a flower in the next topic, I really thought that his macro-crime was better than mine. Now I see that I shouldn't have bothered, because she totally sucks. Even if there are no longer those terrible aberrations (tm) that were before, but the sharpness did not appear. I wonder what resolution (in strokes per millimeter) this system has?


Ezox, tell me, are you getting up normal or not? )))
Just, of course, the resolution, it falls with extra lenses, this is a fact, but.. Identify it with sharpness, and determine 900X700 from the image...

Here are two images, one full-frame, but compressed 900X700 the second-framing facets without changes. How much resolution is there?
And the clipping, without changes, from the eye of your fly to the studio, so yes-you can compare

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15.02.2016 19:16, Hierophis

By the way, Wikipedia is a force written there in full acc. to the experiment smile.gif

15.02.2016 19:39, ИНО

N-yes, this unhappy katamenes some, his aura is bad, whatever strays pan does not remove it, and every time it turns out soap. Pan, maybe you have an aspherical element skewed, because with a flower and hay eaters, it seems, there was no such horror.

15.02.2016 20:12, Hierophis

Ezox, stop playing around, get your fly's eyes in the studio in cropped form, otherwise - you are the most typical nudist - in the sense that you are boring a lot, but there is little sense )))))

Resolution-in the clearly displayed geometry of facets, and the separation of their elements. because it is a high-density structure with a regular 6-angle geometry, consider it an analog of a measuring world.
So far, what is visible in your pictures of the fly flies is not a resolution, but porridge, so give birth to 6-carbon facets, or your LYNZA-to scrap)))

And what is written in Wikipedia explains just what objects with a wider angle are better for macro than long-focus ones like mine, and MDF has nothing to do with it, well, neucH (tm) ~

15.02.2016 21:01, ИНО

15.02.2016 21:14, Hierophis

Drain counted lol.gif

15.02.2016 21:36, ИНО

Well, well, if the pan insists so much, I count him another drain.

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15.02.2016 23:10, Hierophis

Oh horror, what a tentacle )
Creepy sharp, dark, a lot of mud, as if it floats in bacteria, and clippings from the eyes, I think, will not wait, but so yes, yes Esox, where is my nose, do not hesitate to send it immediately to Nature smile.gif

What kind of beacon is flashing on his right?, and a bug is crawling over his left mustache..

No, Ezoks, this is no good anywhere, like the sharpness is there, and its depth is there, and the light is uniform, but not a photo - but a bunch smile.gifof ISO garbage needs to be put at a minimum, this is at least, and somehow make them brighter, and softer, or something, and then some cadavers are shabby it turns out, not wasps ))

16.02.2016 0:40, ИНО

16.02.2016 0:51, Hierophis

Esox, don't get your hopes up, your bacteria is the result of summing up the noise from all the pictures you've sniffed there, it's elementary - the noise is summed up.
That's why you need to either take pictures in one step and not steam, or make more light, because the darker it is, the more noise there is.

I don't have Katamernes either, but we don't keep vespa krabro, only orientalis umnik.gif
I think they look alike with their eyes, so at least take a picture of his eyes, tear up the universe with your detail )))

16.02.2016 3:34, ИНО

Of course, the noise is summed up, but this is not all, there are many other artifacts of different kinds, and I know how to bring everything back to its proper form on the Sterling result in the form of a single image, but in this case I don't.

16.02.2016 21:26, stierlyz

On the occasion of abnormally warm weather (I cut the vine and branches in a T-shirt), I decided to prune, and at the same time dig a hornet's nest. I didn't have the patience to pull it out completely, one layer remained in the ground. The length of the blade handle is 155 mm.

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16.02.2016 21:44, Hierophis

Wow! Thank you, an interesting publication, in terms of the rate of destruction of nest material during the winter period, there is also a transition zone between the uterine cells smile.gif

The poor Oskis must have lived in the nest for a long time, because it was a warm December.

16.02.2016 23:34, stierlyz

The last time I was there was somewhere at the end of November (since I didn't catch it, there are no records), wasps flew actively, it was dumb to dig, although there was already a minus at night. And in December I didn't go - everything was already taken out, but just to relax - I didn't have time, I worked quite a lot.

18.02.2016 18:08, Hierophis

Anoplius viaticus ? If so, then you need to rewrite Wikipedia and other bumazhki, and then it is written everywhere-it appears at the end of April-May, and he is out, in February he is already running massively smile.gif

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19.02.2016 9:37, Кархарот

Anoplius viaticus ? If so, then you need to rewrite Wikipedia and other bumazhki, and then it is written everywhere-it appears at the end of April-May, and he is out, in February he is already running massively smile.gif

Yeah. I also saw him more than once in February. And in Wikipedia, you never know what is written...

19.02.2016 11:16, Hierophis

Yeah. I also saw him more than once in February. And in Wikipedia, you never know what is written...

Not only in Wikipedia, on antvid too, and many other places, I think it's from some literature. In the case of this particular wasp, what was written is not exactly correct, so it's not about a single abnormal activity, these wasps appear immediately as soon as possible and quite massively, I saw a dozen yesterday.

And I saw such a sawfly, but only one smile.gifAnd the macro lens is strength, 100% of the insects encountered are photographed without any torment) Distance-everything is decided, taking pictures from 40cm and from 4cm are two big differences smile.gif
I actually took a picture of this rider through dry grass, like anoplius, there is a haze from a blade of grass above him in one photo, in normal mode this would be simply unrealistic - you start to push the grass apart - everyone will run away)))

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19.02.2016 16:50, ИНО

19.02.2016 19:33, Hierophis

In this case, I just wrote the wrong thing, so megaixpert gloated in vain, only ruined his karma ))
I won't say anything about the "detail" in the mega-image, where there is at least one "detail" of poor anoplius, everything is merged into one tone weep.gif
And the rest of the images are so cosmic that their radiance will eclipse the universe, so esox doesn't show them? weep.gif

20.02.2016 2:24, ИНО

20.02.2016 11:08, Hierophis

No, Ezox, are you okay? I also wondered how you can process images for several hours, especially when there are 10 of them.. So soon, Ikspert's mega-photos will appear with a lag of a year - I took a photo yesterday, and posted it next spring lol.gif
This is a soap box, an Esox, m y l n i c a! ))
You can't process anything from it more than the allotted amount, I took a picture, adjusted the brightness, and go ahead.
Eyes, smazki..

20.02.2016 14:22, ИНО

13.03.2016 20:21, Hierophis

In general, Carcharot, do not buy a DSLR, do a macro-fit smile.gif
All small items from 1.5 mm will be yours )
At the same time, with the ability to take such pictures for 30-50 cm from the object of shooting, thanks to which I, well, almost forgot about the disappointments from the flown animals.
At the same time, the shooting itself becomes "more transparent", you don't need to mess around, you can take pictures without autofocus, but in practice it turned out that autofocus stopped smearing at all - I bent down, took a picture, and the result went smile.gifat the same time - 90%, I make three 4 photos and almost everything is normal, and you don't need to crop the picture, almost everything can be saved in full frame, well, except for 1.5-2mm animals, and for soapy conditions this is a big +

Well, + all the possibilities of a soap dish without a nozzle are easily achievable - I took it off and that's it.
Only the R & D of this nozzle is certainly difficult, if you do not buy a ready-made one, of course..

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