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13.06.2016 11:08, Роман Ракочий

That's why I've already planned the relocation. In a mini birdhouse in the country . how are they doing with remembering a place ? or stupid-stupid?(

This post was edited by Roman Rakochy - 13.06.2016 11: 09

13.06.2016 11:12, ИНО

They're just too good at remembering places. Therefore, if the dacha is located within the foraging area of this family, they will certainly return back to the pipe. If you go further, the chances are about 50/50 that they will take root in a new place. But before that, at least a week should be kept locked up with feeding.

13.06.2016 23:29, Роман Ракочий

Cheers)) - http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/hornet_cycle3.html

14.06.2016 0:37, ИНО

The photos are beautiful, but the text is crooked:

14.06.2016 0:48, Роман Ракочий

I'm sorry, I never learned Russian, I'll fix it right now. And the previous one is here - http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/hornet_cycle1.html
I hope that the female in the ventilation unit will not be lost, I will monitor, feed mol.gif

This post was edited by Roman Rakochy - 06/14/2016 00: 49

14.06.2016 1:15, ИНО

The grammar is just fine there. But the style and meaning of the phrases themselves raise questions. Why is the new nest suddenly named "mother nest"? "Female progenitors of the genus" - also somehow fe.

14.06.2016 1:40, Роман Ракочий

By the way, I saved my family from the coming army.. Soon I will carry it to the dacha to settle
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14.06.2016 1:43, ИНО

You need to attach the nest, and feed the wasps, and today. Otherwise, not only everyone will live to move to the dacha, in the sense of brood.

This post was edited by ENO-06/14/2016 01: 43

14.06.2016 1:48, Роман Ракочий

You need to attach the nest, and feed the wasps, and today. Otherwise, not only everyone will live to move to the dacha, in the sense of brood.

They've already eaten enough honey , their bellies are hanging down. Twice fed for today) plu in the cells there are reserves in nih

14.06.2016 2:09, ИНО

I'm not so much talking about honey as about the" meat " for the larvae. A day without prey - and some larvae will be fed to others. In addition, as I have already said, the nest must be suspended so that the wasps have free access to all the cells. They will not stay long on the nest that is lying down, they will leave soon. Then it will be much more difficult to lure them back even to a properly hung nest. Ideally, it was necessary to immediately drive the wasps from the nest when they arrived home, put them in a container for a short time, quickly attach the nest to some cardboard or piece of foam, no matter vertically or horizontally (it is convenient to do this with entomological pins 00), and immediately return the wasps to their place. Then in a week this cardboard box or a piece of foam plastic can be shoved into the "birdhouse" and attached somewhere in the country. Although I would instead take out without any houses on an open loggia or balcony, if there are any, of course. This way, it will be much more convenient to conduct observations. I have such an observation nest every year. Sometimes the wasps come back the next year and build a new nest without my help.

This post was edited by ENO-06/14/2016 02: 18

17.06.2016 0:38, Роман Ракочий

Dominuluses have taken root, both females forage
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17.06.2016 12:19, Hierophis

And I had an unplanned experience with nymphs on the balcony with predictable, but very noticeable results. The fact is that the lantern, where the nest was originally, I hung in a place where the sun shines on it, where it is warm. But the pipe hung in a shady place, where it was always dark and cool. In general, the nymph for some reason chose this pipe itself, although there were other places, probably because of the old nest of dominoes. )

So, the results are such that in the lantern nest, the first nymph has already hatched for several months, but in the plastic nest - only larvae, and such small ones that kapets! And this is despite the fact that the nests were laid at the same time approximately (well, the pipe nest is 3 days later)

And now more about poooolists and what kind of brakes they are )
To correct the situation, I decided to move the pipe to a more suitable place. From the experience of moving the germanic nest, I know that the nest can be moved about 50-70 cm, but if you move it a meter, and the hive itself stands out well,then the returning wasps will still find it. So, the pipe with the nymph, knowing the features of pooolists, I decided to move it by 10 CENTIMETERS for the first time.. So what? The nymph spent 15 minutes looking for her pipe, despite the fact that it was right under her nose. I'm not even talking about the fact that Germanic can be transferred, even if it happens in the middle of the day, immediately open the letok and release it in a new place, and not wait for days or weeks with the nest closed. Germanics are power and intelligence!)

19.06.2016 0:01, ИНО

19.06.2016 14:23, Hierophis

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20.06.2016 0:30, ИНО

Without attachments, Pan's katamenes photos were better.

21.06.2016 2:10, Роман Ракочий

After the destruction of the nests that I was watching, I wanted to move some of them to an empty hive in the country. Luck found me by accident. Looking at it - http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/hornet_cycle4.html

22.06.2016 22:41, Роман Ракочий

http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/hornets_in_leaves.html hornets amaze

22.06.2016 22:49, ИНО

Yes, you have a lot of hornets, poor polisty, openly nesting.

22.06.2016 23:16, Роман Ракочий

Meanwhile, my killer polistovs are in the hive http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/22_june_2016.html
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This post was edited by Roman Rakochy - 06/22/2016 23: 43

25.06.2016 1:24, Роман Ракочий

the family is growing) http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/hornet_cycle4.html
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This post was edited by Roman Rakochy - 06/25/2016 01: 24
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25.06.2016 21:17, Hierophis

  http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/hornets_in_leaves.html hornets surprise

This is a great observation, I didn't see any descriptions of such hornets ' nests, although they clearly have a tendency to do this, I once found an already abandoned nest under a piece of driftwood in the fall, the nest was just attached from the bottom of the snag and that's it.

And today here is such a beauty photographed smile.gifBeautiful, but stupid, lays eggs in the clay thickness of the nest of katamenes, well, or tries to lay, while the neck of the nest is open-climb there and lay there as much as you can fit )

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25.06.2016 21:58, Роман Ракочий

http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/rufa_in_ground.html I found rufa) first nest in 4 years

26.06.2016 15:18, ИНО

28.06.2016 21:53, Hierophis

29.06.2016 19:37, ИНО

03.07.2016 4:31, ИНО

It's started:

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As always, as soon as July arrived... So far, only one nest has been destroyed (the largest of all the observed ones), and the rest of the families are developing in blissful ignorance.

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03.07.2016 14:32, Роман Ракочий

I wonder if the hornet returns to the polist nest until all the souls are gone. or is it a one-time attack?

03.07.2016 14:39, ИНО

Returns to the winning end. And usually not alone.

This post was edited by ENO-03.07.2016 14: 41

03.07.2016 21:21, Hierophis

Well tuuuupye well blunt!!!!
No, they are not leaders in the production of scientific novelty, in economics, and beyond.
Well tuuupye - this pooolisty.

In short, he attacked me on my balcony!!! the hornet! on the nest dominated, and devoured it. And I haven't brought anyone here yet.. Did the hornets track me down and come to eat my polysters? )))
Well, a long time ago I had an idea how to protect the nests, hornets, they are fat and polisty-skinny. it seems that everything is simple - close the entrances with a circle with holes of small diameter, or narrow the gap so that hornets do not crawl through, and that's it.
But where there! Pooolisty, they OK stupid)) In general, kapets, plastic pipe, apply a circle.. the nymph flies out to forage through the holes in this mug. is returning.. and IT CAN'T get into the nest! here it flies around, sits on a circle, climbs on it and again takes off and flies away and arrives and all over again for tens of minutes.. Remove the circle - immediately climbs..
This is the poc..
Here is a model showing the features of limited thinking, the same Germanics, they climb check every hole and crack if you close the entrance to the nest, they fly around, search, search, show some intellect, solve the problem.... But what can I say, a simple experiment-turning the flight hole of a nest with germanics by 180 degrees, flight activity is restored completely in half an hour.. For pooolists, such a maneuver would probably mean the death of the nest weep.gif(((

And about katamenes in general.. I can't watch them)) How they provide food and build a nest is a ppc.. You look at it and think only one thing-HOW are they not extinct yet???

But not all single wasps are like that, there's scelifron on my balcony settled, as he does everything quickly and smoothly, 1-2-3 and everything, the nest is ready, 4-5-6-proventirovanno and sealed, a couple of hours... And everything seems to be the same and even more complicated - the scelifron tube is quite long from the ground.. Not for nothing that there are many scelifrons and few katamenes...

03.07.2016 22:01, AVA

Returns to the winning end. And usually not alone.

Well, as for the victorious end, that's understandable. But that's not one, is it? And if so, how many are in the group?
The fact is that for V. crabro, group hunting is not marked. It's not like V. mandarinia attacking in a crowd. wink.gif

03.07.2016 22:59, ИНО

So they do not fly as a group, but take turns. This one just flew off. as soon as a minute later (during this time he would definitely not have had time to go back and forth), the other one began to spin around, but did not sit down, apparently my figure prevented him from orienting. What is not clear is whether they find polist nests completely independently of each other, or whether they somehow communicate, even if only in a primitive way (for example, one notices in flight that the other has sat down and is chewing something, and lands next to it). The second option is supported by the fact that the nests are destroyed, for the most part, not in parallel and not in random order, but sequentially one after another in the direction from the forest edge, and the capture of individual hornets does not affect this picture. But this, of course, is not enough to draw any conclusions.

03.07.2016 23:26, ИНО

Taki pan saw the crushing power of the hornet and believed! And then all my article criticized. But maybe it's not the "tuuuupyye" polistas, but Pan Stepovoi himself is not sharp enough? Well, who will polistam in nature with a circle with a hole to close the nest? So they don't have an adaptation to such garbage, they don't need it. Germanicus also has a lot of stupidity, but in other aspects of behavior. For example, I remember: I lived in a house on chicken legs at a recreation center. There was a germanicus nest somewhere inside the wall, and the interior of the cavity was enclosed only by a thin sheet of fiberboard. So, the Germanics chewed a small hole in this sheet. And every day at 3-4 o'clock in the morning, while I was going fishing, I started flying inside the room, hammering them into the ceiling, walls, and, especially, into the lamp. Moreover, no one could find the way back, and they refused to fly out the open door even when the lights were turned off (the sky was just beginning to turn gray and it was cold there). I had to catch it with a net. In the end, I managed to find that hole and plug it, otherwise they would have eaten me. But polisty in such a situation would never have got, because strictly on one proven track they walk/fly from the nest and back and sleep at night (well, I'll tell you a big secret, they lay eggs).

And Pan, so be it, because of the old friendship trampled on by him, I will suggest a way out - instead of a circle with a small hole, the appearance of which for polist is equivalent to an error in orientation (I even wonder how you could think of such a perversion and still hope that it will work), let him put a grid of thin dark wire so that the nest it was clearly visible. I haven't tried it myself (I have no problems with hornets, a rare beast in the city is on the 5th floor), but I'm pretty sure it will work. Only you need to put it at night.

04.07.2016 14:45, AVA

So they do not fly as a group, but take turns. This one just flew off. as soon as a minute later (during this time he would definitely not have had time to go back and forth), the other one began to spin around, but did not sit down, apparently my figure prevented him from orienting. What is not clear is whether they find polist nests completely independently of each other, or whether they somehow communicate, even if only in a primitive way (for example, one notices in flight that the other has sat down and is chewing something, and lands next to it). The second option is supported by the fact that the nests are destroyed, for the most part, not in parallel and not in random order, but sequentially one after another in the direction from the forest edge, and the capture of individual hornets does not affect this picture. But this, of course, is not enough to draw any conclusions.

I forgot to ask. And how do policyholders behave when this miracle steals their children?
Are there any attempts at confrontation, or as in the case of V. ducalis-save yourself, who can?

04.07.2016 23:59, Роман Ракочий

Meanwhile, my babies are in the hive. - http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/hornet_cycle4.html
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05.07.2016 0:50, ИНО

I forgot to ask. And how do policyholders behave when this miracle steals their children?
Are there any attempts at confrontation, or as in the case of V. ducalis-save yourself, who can?

I think you read my article last year, and it describes it in detail. I can't say just how they react at the very first raid, the probability of catching it is almost zero. Today this nest was examined again, it was even more gnawed. But surprisingly, the hornets, for some reason, decided to take a break, at least for a couple of hours (perhaps finding another nest with a large number of large larvae and pupae), and instead of it, two polistas sat on the nest, either returning or hatching after the destruction.

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If the hornets still forget the way to this nest, which is extremely unlikely, and the wasps can recover what they lost, then this will be the first case in my practice of surviving a family after an attack by this predator.

So far, I haven't found any traces of a hornet's visit to other nests. But very annoying other malware-latibulus. Now the nests are already attacked by females of the summer generation - large, light, almost the size of a working sheet, and in flight they are hardly distinguishable from them at all.

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06.07.2016 0:51, ИНО

No, the miracle did not happen, that night the hornet-torn nest entered without an imaginal population. This season, this is the first and so far only polist family destroyed by these predators on the model site of the Balka slope. The rest mostly develop successfully, which in itself is not trivial, usually by this time of year at least half, or even all 9/10, are killed. You have to spend many days in a row sitting in the field until deep dusk, mapping the grown nests with a very aggressive population. Try this-look at it crosswise, but at the same time stay whole!

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I wonder how Pan Stepova would cope with such a task, purely hypothetically? But if only there was one! So sometimes I just want to ask the hornets to get rid of a good half of my subjects. But on a closer site - the landfill wasteland trouble-the last family died. Last summer it was exactly the opposite.

All the nymphs and, to a slightly lesser extent, gallicuses in terms of nesting and raising offspring-power! Dominuli can compete with them only when they are collectively marked:

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And monogamous families eke out a miserable existence. Surrounded on all sides by latibuluses, the single mother did not take out the torment from the distribution box and did not return from the next flight:

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And even those monogynous dominula nests that seem to be developing successfully are only a pale shadow of the nests of gallicuses and nymphs.:

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08.07.2016 18:42, Hierophis

I found the first vespula nest of the season, and even a vulgaris! I found it at work in a pile of leaves, and at lunch in 20 minutes I completed the transfer by 80%. jump.gif
Nest 2 full tiers approx. 12-15 cm, and one stow cell approx. 3 cm, population acc. it is no longer small, but it is not at all large for this period, no more than a couple of hundred wasps, the second tier has not yet hatched practically, the cold is still affecting, which is very relevant for vespula in general.

But in general, there will be a lot of vespulas, everything is slowly returning to normal after the fall in numbers)

10.07.2016 23:36, Hierophis

And it happens! ))
So think, what is the use of such mimicry here, and what wasp was taken as an example confused.gif))

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11.07.2016 0:36, ИНО

This is a discovery - Pan saw the Ceriana conopsoides babbler for the first time in his life, let's congratulate him! beer.gif

And I remember how in the field practice of the first I memorized its name, although under the pseudonym "Cerioides conopsoides" - it sounds like this. It is noteworthy that this particular fly was one of the last "victims" of my last camera, the A550:

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Unlike me, Pan xphotographv sees the "insect image" in a very original way, it must necessarily include milkweed pedicels, cut off as low as possible. But the delighted surprise of pan, introduces perplexity-is it really the first time in my life

11.07.2016 15:43, Hierophis

But the delighted surprise of pan, introduces perplexity-is it really the first time in his life

And nedopisav (read separately))) ) Ezox must have fallen asleep on the keyboard weep.gif
Ezoooks.. thank you, of course, for the name of this fly, but why the rest of the noise, including pictorial noise (in the picture, by the way, exactly a fly, and not an ant ? ))), but what about the very wasp that served as an example?

By the way.. that's what pooooolisty means, pooolisty drive germanic, pooolisty yes generally super.
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