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Identification of Orthoptera (grasshoppers, crickets, etc.)

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08.01.2010 17:56, jabenok

According to the Volgograd blacksmiths: 01_, 02_, 03_-races of the genus Platycleis (s str.). In No. 03_ I suspect P. affinis or P. escalerai - they have longer ovipositors than intermedia and grisea...

Thank you very much!
All three blacksmiths have different angles. If this can help in determining the view, I can post it, just tell me what should be visible there. According to No. 3, there are almost all stages of molting.

08.01.2010 20:22, NakaRB

can you tell anything about the larvae?"
filming location ( where not specified) - vicinity of Krasnoarmeysk, Moscow region.

1. Malakhovka, Moscow region, 09.05.2009
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2. 06.06.2009
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3. 06.06.2009
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4. 06.06.2009
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5. 06.06.2009
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6. 13.06.2009
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7. 13.06.2009
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it seems to be the same, 04.07.2009
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8. 13.06.2009
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9. 04.07.2009
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08.01.2010 20:59, PVOzerski

4-5 Omocestus sp. (? viridulus).
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08.01.2010 21:10, PVOzerski

2jabenok: I can't help you with a more precise definition of Platycleis larvae - and I'm not even sure that there are corresponding definition tables. In the case of a female with a long ovipositor, the tip of the abdomen should be viewed from below in the imago, but this is how this sign will look in the larva - ????
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09.01.2010 2:13, jabenok

Just in case the end of the abdomen No. 3 might help smile.gif
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And some more long sawyers from the Volgograd region
06 and 07 Presumably Poecilimon intermedius
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08 Onconotus servillei?
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This post was edited by jabenok-09.01.2010 02: 21

09.01.2010 2:25, Vlad Proklov

Just in case the end of the abdomen No. 3 might help smile.gif

6, 7 - Leptophyes albovittata
8 - Onconotus servillei
9-Tettigonia caudata, looking at the black spikes.
10 - Gampsocleis glabra

The post was edited by kotbegemot-09.01.2010 03: 07
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23.01.2010 17:46, Насекомовед

Please help me identify Tetrix if you can from this angle. Filmed 80 km south of Moscow on May 29, 2009. It does not resemble subulata, tenuicornis, or bipunctata. confused.gif
Tetrix subulata. Brachypter (forma brachyptera, or brachynota), mesopter (forma mesoptera, or mesonota), and macropter (forma macroptera, or macronota) forms can occur simultaneously in one station. Don't be confused, it has more than 30 synonyms of the name and at least a dozen types of coloring.
Take a look at my tetriks ...
filming location (where not specified) - the vicinity of Krasnoarmeysk, Moscow region.
Tetrix tenuicornis, adults and larvae.
Here are more tetrixes from the Volgograd region. Mostly shot on the coastal grass.
Unfortunately, it is difficult to tell anything from these photos- some of them are blurry, some of them are from a bad angle, and some are larvae (photos 8, 10, 13, 18). There are at least 4 species in the Volgograd region. I would venture to assume: T. subulata (photo 6, 14), T. tenuicornis (photo 7, 11, 12, 15, 16, 17).

PS I looked more closely today-photo 9 is not an adult of T. bipunctata, but a larva of T. tenuicornis. Why the larva is the upper keel on the hind thigh without a step (not very good, but visible; not sharp), and the segments of the antennae are shorter. Photo 15 also looks like a larva.

There is a separate topic on tetrigids of Russia and neighboring territories: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=54343 Maybe these rather difficult insects to identify should be thrown there?

This post was edited by Insect Expert - 24.01.2010 12: 48
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24.01.2010 13:37, Arikain

Help in identifying grasshoppers. Karelia.
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24.01.2010 13:46, vasiliy-feoktistov

Help in identifying grasshoppers:

These are fillies (locusts), not grasshoppers smile.gif.

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 24.01.2010 14: 22

25.01.2010 0:23, PVOzerski

From top to bottom:
1) Unidentifiable larva;
2) Omocestus viridulus, female;
3) Podisma pedestris, female;
4)?Chorthippus sp.?, female

This 4th one is kind of strange. At first I took it for montanus - however, the lateral keels of the pronotum are too broken, and the hind knees are not darkened. It looks even less like pullus. With very great doubts, I assume Gomphocerus rufus-mainly based on the color of the tip of the antennae.

This post was edited by PVOzerski - 25.01.2010 00: 42
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25.01.2010 0:29, Vlad Proklov

From top to bottom:
1) Undetectable larva;

Not Melanoplus frigidus?

25.01.2010 0:43, PVOzerski

Yes who OK its, larva, knows smile.gifMe more 4-th interests.

This post was edited by PVOzerski - 01/25/2010 00: 44

25.01.2010 0:45, Vlad Proklov

Yes who OK its, larva, knows smile.gifMe more 4-th interests.

Well, the nymph?

And the 4th, like, G. ?biguttulus - who else can be in Karelia?

25.01.2010 0:48, PVOzerski

Another candidate is Ch. apricarius , but the median field of elytra seems to be wider. Although the photo may show through the rear wing. And for brunneus/biguttulus, the wings are too short.

25.01.2010 0:50, Vlad Proklov

Another candidate is Ch. apricarius , but the median field of elytra seems to be wider. Although the photo may show through the rear wing. And for brunneus/biguttulus, the wings are too short.

Is apricarius such a thermonuclear device?
And from the brunneus-biguttulus group, it seems that only the latter has such short-winged females?

25.01.2010 0:52, PVOzerski

That's the short-winged thing I don't like... This female is not supposed to be able to fly. And the color - it is not typical at any time. Except for montanus smile.gif- but it's definitely not him. But how do you like the darkened tops of the antennae with light tips?

25.01.2010 0:55, Vlad Proklov

Oh! Or maybe a female Gomphocerus rufus?! They do not have thickening like males!

25.01.2010 0:56, PVOzerski

Yes, I apologize for the possible offtopic question: can you reliably distinguish a female brunneus from a biguttulus? And then I and my students are starting to do a series of works on the variability of the color of straight-winged birds - and this" sweet couple " can't be approached because of this (we don't seem to come across mollis-otherwise it would be quite...)

25.01.2010 0:57, Vlad Proklov

To be honest - nosmile.gif, I only kill the mating ones smile.gif

This post was edited by kotbegemot - 01/25/2010 00: 57

25.01.2010 0:57, PVOzerski

I have already written about G. rufus abovesmile.gif, although I am only familiar with this species in Vorskla, I have not met it in the North-West. Although there are instructions, by the way.

25.01.2010 0:58, Vlad Proklov

And those that are singly, and stand undefined...

25.01.2010 0:58, Vlad Proklov

I have already written about G. rufus abovesmile.gif, although I am only familiar with this species in Vorskla, I have not met it in the North-West. Although there are instructions, by the way.

In Surrey it is only found in the chalk , and I have seen lilac females.

The post was edited by kotbegemot - 25.01.2010 00: 59

25.01.2010 1:10, PVOzerski

Probably rufus after all. Andrey Khumala (Ichman) should be told smile.gifthat he seems to have made something like a catalog of the entomofauna of Karelia once.
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25.01.2010 20:15, guest: IchMan

I am now very far from home, and from my bases and for a long time. In the apartment there is no Internet, but on the site.this place doesn't have my lists. From memory, I can't say for sure, most likely, G. rufus is present there. I'll take a look at my laptop at home and let you know.
Ari, where exactly was it shot? Points of interest. And in general, for the future - if there is an interest in insects, and it will continue - you are welcome to Pushkinskaya 11, we will talk, you can find out more in the personal account. However, I will appear there only by June.

26.01.2010 18:26, Arikain

The photo was taken in Kondopoga, near Nigozero (east side) on the plot of a private house. I agree to talk.
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04.02.2010 21:34, NakaRB

check out my fillies, plz:

1. Opochka, Pskov region, 09.08.2007
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2. Opochka, Pskov region, 09.08.2007
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3. Neighborhood of the village. Izborsk, Pskov region, 01.08.2009
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4. Neighborhood of S. Voronovo, Tver region, 04.08.2009
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5. Neighborhood of d. Moseevtsy, Tver region, 04.08.2009
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6. Neighborhood of d. Moseevtsy, Tver region, 04.08.2009
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7. Berezovy ryadok village, Tver region, 04.08.2009
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8. Berezovy ryadok village, Tver region, 04.08.2009
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9. Berezovy ryadok village, Tver region, 04.08.2009
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10. Berezovy ryadok village, Tver region, 04.08.2009
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04.02.2010 22:11, PVOzerski

2, 8, 10-Chorthippus biguttulus, male
5, 9-Chorthippus parallelus, female (9-with some probability can be Ch. montanus).
7-Chorthippus apricarius, male (left) and female
4-Omocestus viridulus, female
1, 3, 6-Chorthippus biguttulus or brunneus, respectively, male and 2 females.
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05.02.2010 19:49, NakaRB

and a little more...

11. Berezovy ryadok village, Tver region, 04.08.2009
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12. surroundings of the village of Berezovy ryadok, Tver region, 05.08.2009
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13. Berezovy ryadok village, Tver region, 05.08.2009
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14. Berezovy ryadok village, Tver region, 05.08.2009
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15. Berezovy ryadok village, Tver region, 05.08.2009
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16. Berezovy ryadok village, Tver region, 05.08.2009
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17. Berezovy ryadok village, Tver region, 05.08.2009
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18. surroundings of the village Zaozerye, Tver region, 06.08.2009
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19. surroundings of the village Zaozerye, Tver region, 06.08.2009
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20. surroundings of the village Zaozerye, Tver region, 06.08.2009
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21. surroundings of the village Zaozerye, Tver region, 06.08.2009
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05.02.2010 20:32, PVOzerski

11, 19. Chorthippus brunneus, mollis or biguttulus, male. Unfortunately, the elytra is not visible.
12, 13. Chorthippus apricarius, female
14, 15. Omocestus viridulus-respectively, female and male
16, 17. Chorthippus apricarius, male
18. Chorthippus pullus, female. Quite a rare species, at least in our North-West.
20, 21. Myrmeleotettix maculatus, female. Right now my graduate student is doing work on its color variability smile.gif
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08.02.2010 21:06, NakaRB

thank you very much!
check out a couple more:

1. the neighborhood of S. Zaozerye, Tver region, 06.08.2009
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2. surrounding area of S. Zaozerye, Tver region, 06.08.2009
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and larvae... if you can tell something from them:

3. vicinity of Krasnoarmeysk, Moscow region, 04.07.2009
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4. neighborhood of d. Moseevtsy, Tver region, 04.08.2009
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5. Berezovy ryadok village, Tver region, 04.08.2009
Chrysochraon dispar?
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6. surroundings of the village of Berezovy ryadok, Tver region, 05.08.2009
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09.02.2010 15:15, PVOzerski

1. Chorthippus apricarius, female
2. Chorthippus biguttulus or Ch. brunneus, freshly elongated female
3. Apparently, Chorthippus dorsatus or albomarginatus.
4. Omocestus viridulus, last larval instar
5. Chrysochraon dispar, adult female
6. Chorthippus parallelus, adult female

This post was edited by PVOzerski - 09.02.2010 17: 27
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09.02.2010 20:30, NakaRB


5. Chrysochraon dispar, adult female
6. Chorthippus parallelus, adult female


thank you! tell me, how to reliably distinguish a larva from an adult insect in short-winged species?

10.02.2010 19:47, Andrey Ponomarev

confused.gif I would appreciate the help of the definition.Astrakhan region, srednyaya Akhtuba, Balkhuni settlement 09.09.2009

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10.02.2010 21:00, PVOzerski

2Genadich:
Thisoicetrinus pterostichus (F.-W.) - melon filly

2NakaRB: the larvae have wing rudiments without transverse veins and are arranged in a peculiar way: the narrower front ones lie between the wide, more or less fan-shaped, turned out according to the "ancient wing" pattern of the rear ones.

This post was edited by PVOzerski - 10.02.2010 21: 01
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12.02.2010 15:52, Andrey Ponomarev

2Genadich:
Thisoicetrinus pterostichus (F.-W.) - melon filly

2NakaRB: the larvae have wing rudiments without transverse veins and are arranged in a peculiar way: the narrower front ones lie between the wide, more or less fan-shaped, turned out according to the "ancient wing" pattern of the rear ones.
Excuse me guys, maybe this is heteracris pterosticha-melon filly :confused:http://zbio.net/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t83922.html

The post was edited by Gennadich - 12.02.2010 15: 56

12.02.2010 16:06, Насекомовед

Thisoicetrinus Uvarov, 1921 syn. = Heteracris Walker, 1870

13.02.2010 0:05, PVOzerski

In general, smile.gifI haven't been following the system revisions much lately, because in many ways these things (and above all, the division and unification of genera) are subjective. Until I feel the real need to rename it, I will stick to the names that are used in classic monographs like Beibiyenko and Mishchenko, 1951 (if there are no problems with objective synonymy or homonymy). Therefore, I do not call Thisoicetrinus Heteracris (but I call the former smile.gifThisoicetrus), just as the brunneus group skates are still in the genus Chorthippus, not Glyptobothrus, and kopieuski are in the genus Myrmeleotettix, not Omocestus.

17.02.2010 8:10, Mantispid

Hello, please help me identify the right-winged birds
http://www.coleop123.narod.ru/gallery/gallery7.html
At least until roda

17.02.2010 13:02, Alex KNZ

Hello, please help me identify the right-winged birds
http://www.coleop123.narod.ru/gallery/gallery7.html
At least up to the genus


1. Most likely Calliptamus italicus (Prus italicus)
2. Oedipoda caerulescens (Blue-winged Filly)
3. Chorthippus albomarginatus (White-edged horse)
4.?
5,6. Tettigonia caudata (Tailed grasshopper), differs from green (t.viridissima)in the presence of black spines on the hind legs.
7. Conocephalus discolor (Common swordsman), male.
8. Decticus?
9. Decticus?
10. Euthystira brachyptera (Short-winged Green beetle)
11. Platycleis (grisea?)
12. Platycleis (grisea?), a nymph.
13. Conocephalus discolor (Common swordsman), male nymph.
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17.02.2010 15:03, Mantispid

Thank you very much! That's just Calliptamus italicus something not like

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