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21.01.2009 23:44, Fornax13

Nutcrackers - Ctenicera cuprea, convent.
Barbel-tetropium what-thread. I think they'll be more precise.

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22.01.2009 1:53, RippeR

well, the fact that I know tetropium, but I havensmile.gif't dealt with them yet.

22.01.2009 13:59, Victor Titov

Bratsk district, June

Tetropium barbel ?castaneum
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24.01.2009 11:26, akulich-sibiria

Good afternoon, can you tell me why my page opens in some strange format??In the form of a tree....It is very unfortunate, you can't understand anything, you have to open each message separately, and it is not possible to find what was answered at all.. frown.gif ..Maybe I changed something in my settings??

24.01.2009 11:33, akulich-sibiria

Tell me what kind of bug. It was bred from the fruit body of a tinder box. about 2 mm. as it seems to me from sem. Cisidae. The beetle is cylindrical in shape with rather large dots on the elytra and with sparse hairs sticking out. The legs are poorly visible, whether 3 or 4 segments. With an elongated claw segment. The lower legs are rounded at the apex, with small teeth along the edge. The legs are not embedded in the lower legs.
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There is a suggestion of Rhopadontus perforatus

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24.01.2009 11:50, akulich-sibiria

Question about zlatkami. These are Chrysobotris ... one species or not, it seems to me that the structure of the head is different (the structure of the forehead and the distance between the eyes), as well as the color of the shield, one is blue, the second is black. This is Ch. solieri or Ch. igniventris
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24.01.2009 11:54, akulich-sibiria

Tetropium barbel ?castaneum


I also think that this is exactly T. castaneum

24.01.2009 12:58, PG18

No, I can't identify this "grinder". Just as Logvinovsky (1985) doesn't have any of them.
On light, South Kazakhstan, Ustyurt district, May 18 – about 5 mm. The head at rest is perpendicular to the body. The eyes are round and prominent. Pronotum is black, with keeled sides. The shield is large, triangular, and black. Nadkylia slightly flattened, slightly expanding posteriorly, light ochreous, with a large dotted line forming uneven rows; each indentation has a rather long protruding hair. From the ass of each beetle stretches garbage with a length of 5 mm and a thickness of about 0.2 mm.

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24.01.2009 18:10, пигидий

I can't identify this grinder

not surprising: a beast from Dasytinae, I don't remember the genus (probably drawn in Jacobson)
ага: табл. 42:8 (http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/jacobs42.htm)

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25.01.2009 0:15, Fornax13

not surprising: a beast from Dasytinae, I don't remember the genus (probably drawn in Jacobson)
ага: табл. 42:8 (http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/jacobs42.htm)

Now they belong to the Melyridae. Either Cerallus or Anthodromicus differ in the number of individual whiskers. Righter had keys for them (you can find them in the net), but, you know, it was a long time ago, so their adequacy is doubtful.

25.01.2009 0:36, Fornax13

Then akulich-sibiria:
Both Chrysobothris-Ch. chrysostigma.
Ch. solieri-are Southern European, most likely not found in Russia
. встречается.Сһ. igniventris sporadically in the south of ETR.
But they should not have such edges.

Ciid, alas, I don't know...

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25.01.2009 8:15, akulich-sibiria

Then akulich-sibiria:
Both Chrysobothris-Ch. chrysostigma.
Ch. solieri-are Southern European, most likely not found in Russia
. встречается.Сһ. igniventris sporadically in the south of ETR.
But they should not have such edges.

Ciid, alas, I don't know...


Thank you, well, we can say with some confidence that these are exactly the cyids?
And according to zlatke, at first I had exactly the same species named (Ch.chrisostigma), but I was confused by the fact that the supracroic keel of the pronotum was not complete and not so obvious. And something with the prothorax process was not quite going smoothly. (Definition of species by the Fauna of the USSR). But at the same time, the ribs on the elytra are very pronounced. And variations in the color of the shield, within the species-can this be??..
Another question about goldfish-Buprestis (=Ancylocheira) hemorrhidalis lives in Siberia??...We come across B. sibirica

25.01.2009 13:18, barry

Help with leaf-eating...
According to the Asian determinant, we found Aulacophora foveicollis, but I looked at the picture on the Internet (what I managed to find), clearly not the same...
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25.01.2009 17:37, brgadr

Help with the leaf beetle...



Yes, this is not a leaf beetle, but an endomichida. Ancylopus pictus probably, or someone close to it.
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25.01.2009 19:45, Fornax13

Then akulich-sibiria:
Yes, that tsiida-exactly.
As for the color of the shield, I think it's quite likely.
Buprestis haemorrhoidalis ssp. sibirica Fleischer, 1887 it is called, and therefore lives smile.gif
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26.01.2009 14:55, akulich-sibiria

Then akulich-sibiria:
Yes, that tsiida-exactly.
As for the color of the shield, I think it's quite likely.
Buprestis haemorrhoidalis ssp. sibirica Fleischer, 1887 it is called, and therefore inhabits smile.gif


The fact is that the species Buprestis haemorrhoidalis and B. sibirica Fleischer, which is different from it, are described in the fauna of the USSR, but I also often found that this is exactly how the subspecies goes. Morphology is well described in this guide. So, out of 10 goldfish with obvious signs of B. sibirica Fleischer, I came across a goldfish with clear signs (as it seems to me) for the Buprestis haemorrhoidalis species listed there. If you are interested, then I can then throw off a number of signs that I think there are differences in. smile.gif
Another question about Sphenoptera goldfinches..I have two views here. I would like to know what species can be found here (Krasnoyarsk Territory, Khakassia). Faced with difficulties in determining. Determined by DV and green. It's a pity that there are different types and there is no common table with all the views. Here we have one species each for S. arnoldii and S. extensocarinata..can we have these types?? photo maybe a little later I'll post today

26.01.2009 20:05, akulich-sibiria

help with zlatka. Khakassia, on a larch stump. the genus Sphenoptera. The elytra at the apex are rounded and cut off. Pronotum with median and lateral indentations. The apex of the posterior process of the prothorax is not bordered. Along the edge of its dots merging into a groove. The inner edge of the antennal pits is broadly rounded. There is no edging on the anterior edge of the pronotum. Some aisles are keeled up.
The edges of the pronotum are parallel to half. The shield is clearly transverse.
By DV, I go to arnoldii or extensocarinata, but I'm not sure. Help. wall.gif
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26.01.2009 22:10, Fornax13

About the real B. haemorrhoidalis Richter writes that it reaches east to the Omsk region and the Atay region. B. sibirica seems to also live in the Altai Regionconfused.gif. He wrote something else about the differences in the structure of the genitals, you can see.
Sphenopters went crazy - they're already sitting on larches...
Here you can roughly estimate what can live on your territory:
http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/bup_rus.htm
Sphenopters are a grim group, and I don't recall any revisions on them.
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26.01.2009 22:51, RippeR

If possible, and my swineherd from the Crimea
and a weevil from Moldova,

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26.01.2009 23:15, Fornax13

Elephant - ?Pachypera spissa (Boheman, 1842)
Do swineherds go anywhere on the green?

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26.01.2009 23:45, omar

Pachypera spissa - what kind of species? Where can I grab some info?

26.01.2009 23:57, Fornax13

Yes, this is glanis, as it is now called... spissus which is... rolleyes.gif
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27.01.2009 0:37, Stavropolec

Well, with the latest Stavropol barbels, please help:

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27.01.2009 0:45, Stavropolec

And these, if possible, and the floor.... mol.gif

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27.01.2009 0:45, Fornax13

3, 4-it is better to display separately-Brontes planatus (Silvanidae)
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27.01.2009 1:41, RippeR

1,2 - Criocephalus rusticus
5 - Phytoecia ? cylindrica
6 - Clytus arietis
7 - Phytoecia (Opsilia) coerulescens
8 - Chlorophorus figuratus
9 - ? Chlorophorus sartor
11, 15 - Leptura ? qudrifasciata
12 - Stenocorus ? insitivus
13-Strangalia attenuata
14, 17-Rutpela maculata
16 similar to 13, only female...


Fornax:
that's what I picked up on the pig pan.. I decided that there was a wide depression on the pronotum.. It's not deep and barely visible, but it looks like it.. Even in the photo a little visible in small..
the color is bronze-blackish-copper.. kind of smile.gif
keel on the elytra like to the end.. But there is a strange thing - if you look from the side, the keel is visible, and if from above, it seems to smooth out towards the middle.. By the method of poking and making decisions, I decided that all the same keel to the end.. And I found a photo of Kuprina, which looks different.
So it comes out lutschniki, Prague???7 0_o

In general, in this regard, I suggest organizing a Swineherd gallery, even if they are not defined. We need some material for comparison, otherwise it's a bit difficult to determine.. And if the group is not studied, then it's worth a try. Photo with details to determine.
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27.01.2009 2:10, Fornax13

That's it smile.gif
S. lutshniki is sort of a synonym for S. cuprina
. For some reason, it seems to me that it is from the first pile. The kind that doesn't have much indentation. With an indentation - it's like a beetle from Khakassia or Kuprina.
Here is the
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And about the gallery - a good thing, but the group is generally very gloomy, Obenberger how many times to himself in synonyms flew.

27.01.2009 2:22, sapalex

Guys, tell me about the bug. I think Ergates faber L. Caught under an oak tree stump 26.07.08. Kiev

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27.01.2009 2:45, Fornax13

To sapalex:
Prionus coriarius L., devochka.
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27.01.2009 3:12, RippeR

Prionus coriarius.. Not even a bit like Fabre.
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27.01.2009 3:16, RippeR

Fornax13:
not. well, not really there.. Judging by the green, these are completely different species.. and they have serious differences..
Here would be a photo of an archer. it would be easier..
And Kuprina does not fit at all..
The indentation seems to be there. it's not deep, but it's wide enough. although compared to Kuprina nonsense..
There is something different about egzarata, the color, sculpture, punctuation of the pronotum on the sides, and the absence of indentations on the sides of the pronotum. which are even bigger than the indentation in the middle..

27.01.2009 3:44, RippeR

egzarata does not fit on the shield - these have it as a lying rectangle, and egzarata has more standing (i.e. the ratio of the length of the width of the shield..)
in these, under the binocular lens, there seems to be a border on the top of the pronotum, such a thin one, but the border.. egzarata shouldn't have it.

as an option, maybe antiqua, but there also seems to be small discrepancies..
the process of the pgr on the sides has grooves, but not from points, but just grooves.
by the way, the size of the ekz is 11-12 mm, so not egzarata for sure..
about anti-kva confuses the color, and small dotted lines between the points of the pronotum.. I would not say that something can be called a very fine dotted line, but it is also difficult to call a smooth surface..

purely from the description, it looks a little like lateralis and dianthi, although the shield can hardly be called barely transverse..

generally gibberish.. The definition of the occupation is interesting, but such keys, in my opinion, are clueless, especially when talking about points on the pronotum, which are generally difficult to characterizefrown.gif, they could draw at least caprints of what they wanted to say.. And then half of the species have to be implied in one interpretation or another..

27.01.2009 9:20, KDG

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27.01.2009 9:21, barry

Well, with the latest Stavropol barbels, please help:

Can I take a side look on the 5th? If I'm not mistaken, P. cylindrica has orange tint only on the front legs, while P. icterica has orange tint on all six legs.

27.01.2009 9:43, barry

never a cylinder. Mussaria affinis volgensis

Can I see it somewhere? I didn't find anything on the Internet. Maybe I don't have cylindrica either?
PS: Kharkiv, 25.05.2008.

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27.01.2009 11:04, RippeR

mda, something I blundered..
Barry, you have a real cylindrica..

Gee, figs would have guessed that it was volgensis, I didn't even think that Musariya smile.gifThought between icteric and cylindrical and, as always, I couldn't remember who had all the red legs and who only had the front ones.. smile.gif I've probably been dreaming for two years and I can't remember exactly without a hint )))
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27.01.2009 12:07, KDG

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27.01.2009 12:22, barry

mda, something I blundered..
Barry, you have a real cylindrica..

Gee, figs would have guessed that it was volgensis, I didn't even think that Musariya smile.gifThought between icteric and cylindrical and, as always, I couldn't remember who had all the red legs and who only had the front ones.. smile.gif I've probably been dreaming for two years and I can't remember exactly without a hint )))
Yes, just both caught alive, once dealt with them and drew attention to this case. I also sometimes forget who has how, but photos arranged by type are always at hand...

27.01.2009 12:26, barry

on the ZIN site there is a like...
Yes, it seems that there is no, I can not find, there is only a mention in the text in some pdf. It would be necessary to take a picture of it normally and send it to Lobanov... smile.gif

27.01.2009 12:50, RippeR

if we are talking about icteric, then I did not find it there either.. frown.gif
http://www.cerambyx.uochb.cz/
but there is definitely

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