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14.06.2009 16:03, Алексей Сажнев

2. yes female Carabus cancellatus
3. You are right again - this is Lamia textor, apparently also a female
4. Phosphuga atrata, it seems there is nothing like that anymore

This post was edited by Alexey Sazhnev - 06/14/2009 16: 12
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15.06.2009 8:49, Serg Svetlov

yes, I agree with you, the beetle is similar to the female Molorchus (Glaphyra) umbellatarum umbellatarum (Schreber, 1759)

umbellatarum (a) has clear bare calluses on the pronotum 3, which do not seem to be visible in the picture, I am inclined to think that this is kiesenwetteri without statements, since the angle of the beetle is not super, and it is desirable to see it firsthand smile.gif

15.06.2009 10:03, barry

umbellatarum (a) has 3 clear bare calluses on the pronotum, which do not seem to be visible in the picture, I am inclined to think that this is kiesenwetteri without statements, since the angle of the beetle is not super, and it is desirable to see it firsthand smile.gif

Now I'll make it bigger... pronotum and mustache - nothing else is needed?
picture: 1.jpg
picture: 2.jpg
picture: 3.jpg

This post was edited by barry - 06/15/2009 10: 24

15.06.2009 11:13, Serg Svetlov

Now I'll make it bigger... pronotum and mustache - nothing else is needed?


Let's just say that since kiesenwetteri is absent on the territory of the European part of Russia and probably in Ukraine, it is common in the Caucasus and in the Crimea, then let it be schmidti, although the photos are very bad. schmidti and kiesenwetteri differ in dotted lines , in schmidti it is deeper(the only distinguishing feature between schmidti and kiesenwetteri is the character of pronotal punctuation: denser and deeper in schmidti - these are the remarks of M.Danilevsky to the list of barbels of the former USSR # 139( see here http://www.cerambycidae.net/ussr_remarks.html)
I have schmidti in my collection, but I can't compare it with your photos, because the quality of the photos is very low.But don't doubt that this is not an umbellatarum!!!

15.06.2009 11:46, barry


I have schmidti in my collection, but I can't compare it with your photos, because the quality of the photos is very low.But don't doubt that this is not an umbellatarum!!!

I would have known that there were so many of them, of course I would have taken them... A couple of weeks ago, I generally thought that there are short-winged barbels only in the tropics. Well, maybe we'll get lucky again. smile.gif

This post was edited by barry - 06/15/2009 11: 47

15.06.2009 12:26, barry

By the sawyere, I sort of go to the umbellatarum. 1st member-is this a thick club-shaped one? Then the 2nd and 3rd are short, the 4th is 1.5 times longer than the 3rd.
In kiesenwetteri, the 5th part is 1,2..1,3 times longer than the 4th, but I would not say that we have so...
What's Schmidti's mustache like?

15.06.2009 14:15, Serg Svetlov

don't umbellatarum it, please check

15.06.2009 17:24, barry

don't umbellatarum it, believe me
Without the schmidti sawyere, I wouldn't agree.. smile.gif

15.06.2009 18:10, RippeR

What are you doing?? This is the real umbellatarum! Masoli are clearly visible! Schmidti has no masolae at all, the pronotum is different, smooth. umbellatarum, 100%
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15.06.2009 20:13, Алексей Сажнев

This is a 100% female Molorchus (Glaphyra) umbellatarum umbellatarum (Schreber, 1759)

well, as confirmation, the comment of Mikhail Leontievich Danilevsky: "absolutely! with such a good photo, there are no problems, you can even see that it is a female" - I think the arguments will end there? smile.gif

This post was edited by Alexey Sazhnev - 06/15/2009 20: 17

15.06.2009 21:35, RippeR

oh, by the way, female schmidti whiskers are 1.5 times shorter ))

16.06.2009 7:30, Serg Svetlov

well, well done, one eye is good, but 10 is better, I did not see calluses on such photos and probably will not see them, and about "there are no problems with such a good photo", here are some of the photos of Maxim Smirnov, beetles were collected by me at the 2006 CMS, for comparison.And once again I am convinced that you can not identify beetles from photos!!!

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16.06.2009 8:09, RippeR

well with these photos of course it is difficult to compete smile.gif

But in general, you can determine by photo (only NOT BY ALL), and this is confirmed by at least 3-4 years of forum experience! Otherwise, I would still be sitting in sanni Moldova and believe that Moldova has 2 species of pigeons-Icarus and bellargus and 10 species of barbel smile.gifAnd there would be a lot of new species for science in the collection ^^

16.06.2009 8:12, Алексей Сажнев

yes, the photos are great, but still even in the photo of barry with an enlarged pronotum, the calluses are visible, although not clearly, if there were a male, it would be easier.

16.06.2009 8:33, omar

Yes, the calluses were clearly visible. Even me, with my eyesight.

16.06.2009 8:42, Serg Svetlov

I am very glad that everything was resolved and the bug was identified, which fits into the forum topic smile.gifGood luck to everyone in the coming season!!!
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16.06.2009 15:05, akulich-sibiria

good evening to all, so I decided to throw some ground beetles. smile.gif
They were caught in the Western Sayan, right on the road when climbing local ridges.
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16.06.2009 15:31, Алексей Сажнев

2. Maybe C. schoenherri
3,4. probably Carabus (Morphocarabus) regalis
5. Pterostichus (Plectes) drescheri

This post was edited by Alexey Sazhnev - 06/16/2009 16: 02

16.06.2009 15:40, Bad Den

good evening to all, so I decided to throw some ground beetles. smile.gif
They were caught in the Western Sayan, right on the road when climbing local ridges.

№5 - Pterostichus (Myosodus) sp.

16.06.2009 15:49, akulich-sibiria

3. Maybe C. schoenherri
4. probably Carabus (Morphocarabus) regalis
5. Pterostichus (Plectes) drescheri

Well, I also agree with 3 and 4. Alexey, how long have you been in the Sayan Mountains? I saw you posting a ground beetle there. AREN't you going yet?"

16.06.2009 15:51, Fornax13

1-isn't it danilevsky...
3, 4-regalis like.
5 - Still Plectes. Myosodus's are Caucasian.
7 - Poecilus of some sort.

This post was edited by Fornax13-16.06.2009 15: 54

16.06.2009 15:57, Aleksandr Safronov

good evening to all, so I decided to throw some ground beetles. smile.gif
They were caught in the Western Sayan, right on the road when climbing local ridges.

1. Fornax прав - Carabus (Megodontus) danilevskii Obydov, 1993
2. Carabus (Megodontus) schoenherri ssp. sajanus Breuning, 1927
3, 4 - Carabus (Morphocarabus) regalis ssp. jenissoni Dejean, 1831
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16.06.2009 15:58, Алексей Сажнев

Fornax13: Isn't it really danilevsky?

akulich-sibiria: unfortunately I wasn't there, it wasn't my beetles that were in the photo, but I hope to visit, the places there are the most picturesque, and the views are magnificent!

This post was edited by Alexey Sazhnev - 06/16/2009 16: 20

16.06.2009 16:22, akulich-sibiria

Fornax13: Isn't it really danilevsky?

akulich-sibiria: unfortunately I wasn't there, it wasn't my beetles that were in the photo, but I hope to visit, the places there are the most picturesque, and the views are magnificent!


Is this species danilevskii quite rare?..
Yes, there's a lot to see. I'm just leaving there, so it's not a bug, so it's new to my collection. At the same time, you go to one mountain, some views, another, other views. smile.gif ...I think you can rummage endlessly there. And what a variety of bark beetles.!!..Well, if you get ready, I can try to organize a trip wink.gif

16.06.2009 16:25, akulich-sibiria

here's another bug. Several pieces were found on the bark of dried fir and under the bark for some reason too.
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16.06.2009 16:31, akulich-sibiria

http://carabidae.ru/carabidae/danilevskii_obydov_1993.html I found Danilevsky's ground beetle. I think you're right, and that's where she was caught. Sayanogorsk, village.Cheryomushki, when climbing Mount Borus. Ran along the road.))

16.06.2009 16:42, Bad Den

here's another bug. Several pieces were found on the bark of dried fir and under the bark for some reason too.
picture: IMG_7809_.jpg

Carabus ?nitens like...

16.06.2009 16:44, Алексей Сажнев

maybe Carabus (Megodontus) ermaki ?
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16.06.2009 16:52, guest: Paganel

1. Carabus (Megodontus) danilevskii
2. C. (Megodontus) schoenherri
3-4. C. (Morphocarabus) regalis
5. Pterostichus (Plectes) drescheri
6. Pt. (Petrophilus) sp.
7. Pt. (Poecilus) gebleri
http://www.carabidae.ru
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16.06.2009 16:55, guest: Paganel

maybe Carabus (Megodontus) ermaki ?

exactly ermaki wink.gif

16.06.2009 17:16, akulich-sibiria

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH!!! I'm afraid I don't have anything else so interesting in terms of bonuses anymore))

16.06.2009 17:48, Ilia Ustiantcev

I hope I've identified the squad correctly. smile.gif This little thing arrived yesterday at the light in Moscow.
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16.06.2009 17:56, Алексей Сажнев

softbody from Malthodes
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16.06.2009 20:29, bials

Please help me with the beetles mol.gif
All from MO Odintsovo district.
Like Agapantium, but what is it?
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and another bug
picture: ____1.1.jpg

16.06.2009 20:56, Алексей Сажнев

it's not agapanthia - it's Saperda populnea
, a leaf beetle like Melasoma vigintipunctata

This post was edited by Alexey Sazhnev - 06/16/2009 21: 00
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16.06.2009 21:17, bials

this is not agapanthia - this is Saperda populnea

Thank you very much! In general, if you remove the specks, you will look like Agapantia.

16.06.2009 21:26, VSB

From the removed beetles, it seems to me that # 1 is a common stalk barbel (Agapanthia villosoviridescens), but I can't determine the rest # 2,3,4. From the category of weevils, but I don't know who exactly. If you know anything, please let us know.

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16.06.2009 21:46, bials


leaf beetle like Melasoma vigintipunctata

I wonder why I always come across non-standard instances confused.gif
All pictures of Melasoma vigintipunctata in the net shoveled, all as expected 20 points (10 on each elytra). And I came across the only time and that 16-point (!)
By the way, no one can tell you which name is more modern: Melasoma vigintipunctata or Chrysomela vigintipunctata?
Or does it make no difference?

This post was edited by bials - 06/16/2009 21: 47

16.06.2009 21:50, Алексей Сажнев

Weevils: Lixus, Larinus and the third)))
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16.06.2009 21:51, Fornax13

1-Agapanthia rather dahli
2-Lixus bardanae, if on sorrel
3-Larinus sturnus
4-Otiorhynchus mangy. I don't even know what it is. And what are the dimensions?
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