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15.05.2008 18:00, Mylabris

For the first time in 10 years, I found such a karabus in the Southern part of Kazakhstan. I even have difficulty with the subgenus, for some reason it seems to me that this is an "invader". Please tell me the view.

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15.05.2008 19:25, Buzman

To Mylabris: Similar to Carabus (Megodontus) gyllenhali, but I'm probably wrong.

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15.05.2008 20:23, RippeR

similar to Megodontus gyllenhali, but this is nonsense

I think the subgenus Megodontus

15.05.2008 20:49, RippeR

?it's interesting to see that we almost wrote at the same time ,but the time is different
.Gyllenhaal is generally an endem of the Crimean, how this or something similar turned out in Kazakhstan is a mystery (or it's just a very similar species), we are waiting for the opinion of experts

15.05.2008 21:30, Mylabris

Apparently, my instincts did not fail me - I jumped for a long time in surprise at the discovery - and I caught it under a stone on an abandoned plot among the dacha massif. And then I couldn't sleep for 4 days - I was repairing a computer and couldn't get involved in our entomological community. Now "chased" on the determinant of Central Asian karabuses-hopeless. As far as I understand, meg-dontus has more than 2 setae on the penultimate segment of the lower labial palps, mine has 2. Three pairs of bristle-bearing pores on the psp, the ventral grooves are distinct, the mentum tooth is pointed, the length is equal to the lateral lobes, the submentum is without bristles at all. What kind of miracle? In European, I get into the henningi-excellens group.

16.05.2008 0:09, Bad Den

Apparently, my instincts did not fail me - I jumped for a long time in surprise at the discovery - and I caught it under a stone on an abandoned plot among the dacha massif.

Were there any traps set after this discovery?

16.05.2008 0:34, Bad Den

Hello, gentlemen.
Mr. Fornax13. Mr. Bad Den's Aphodius is certainly not Phaeaphodius, but something else.

As they say in Odessa, "You will laugh"

I recently caught another one of the same "in years".

Here are his signs:
The top of the hind leg, the rear corners of the prsp (from slightly (quite a bit) different angles), the whole body itself.

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And a couple more quick shots - Rutelinae from Syria/Israel (Golan Heights, March 2007). I assume that Anisoplia ? leucaspis

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16.05.2008 0:45, Fornax13

He doesn't even have the same setae on the tops of his shins... Or so it seems to me...

16.05.2008 0:52, Fornax13

Well, maybe at least it's a man. Otherwise, you can pull the genitals, take pictures and compare them.

16.05.2008 0:57, Bad Den

He doesn't even have the same setae on the tops of his shins... Or so it seems to me...

Well, if you compare it with A. prodromus...

16.05.2008 1:10, Fornax13

Yes, there is undoubtedly a difference, but as I understand it, not all species that follow this trait have it so pronounced. Compared to, for example, granarius, they are quite long and uneven

Are they also arranged along the lower edge of the vertex slice? I think you can see it more clearly there.

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16.05.2008 5:29, Mylabris

Were there any traps set after this discovery?

I would love to, but this place is 70 km away from my house, and now you don't really hit it...

This post was edited by Mylabris - 05/16/2008 06: 18

16.05.2008 6:30, Bad Den

Are they also arranged along the lower edge of the vertex slice? I think you can see it more clearly there.

"In general" - also...

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16.05.2008 8:20, Dmitry Vlasov

2Fornax13
Yes, both Platycerus species are indicated for the Vologda region, but "indicated" and "actually inhabit" are such different things!!! Several beetles were brought to me for testing, some of them were P. caprea, and one (or two)of them were used for testing. I just couldn't identify it without preparation, but it's probably P. caprea, too. From the Yaroslavl region (which is to the south) - I have identified more than fifty beetles, of which only a few are ground beetles.

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16.05.2008 22:50, Fornax13

..but "real" and "real live" are such different things!!!

Yes, you can't argue

with that

16.05.2008 23:04, Fornax13

"In general" - also...
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But "from my own bell tower" I would say that they are still different... And I'm also very confused by the interrupted border of the main prsp. - as far as I understand, not the most common sign among aphodians. But I still don't know much about them, so I'd like to get an expert's opinion...

17.05.2008 1:36, Nimrod

Hello, gentlemen.

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17.05.2008 10:59, barry

Help me determine up to the view. Kharkiv, 27.04.2008. Deciduous forest with a predominance of oak.
Personally, I'm leaning towards (?) Curculio pellitus... The acorn (C. glandium) seems to have a longer trunk.
There are more angles, and I'll add them if necessary...

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17.05.2008 12:57, Fornax13

Judging by the shape of the shield , it really belongs to the pellitus/venosus group.

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18.05.2008 1:25, Vitalin

[quote=Bad Den,21.04.2008 00:58]

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19.05.2008 6:15, Bad Den

That's right, Mr. Fornax13, you're right. Therefore, it is still Phaeaphodius. Of course, it is advisable to see edeagus, but in the absence of the latter, for now we will proceed from the available one.

Then, according to the "Insect Detector DV", it turns out that these are all such rectus

This post was edited by Bad Den - 05/19/2008 06: 16

19.05.2008 11:11, bahurin

This animal was found on the door of my car yesterday in the south of the Moscow region. Copy in length not less than 20 mm

19.05.2008 11:13, Bad Den

This animal was found on the door of my car yesterday in the south of the Moscow region. Copy in length not less than 20 mm

Barbel Rhagium mordax

This post was edited by Bad Den - 05/19/2008 11: 14

19.05.2008 11:37, REDBOOK

Is it possible to determine the false layer from the photo to the type?
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and weevil -
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(on lumbago).
Chelyabinsk region

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19.05.2008 12:44, Alexandr Rusinov

False layer - Platyrrhinus resinosus Scop.

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19.05.2008 13:11, omar

And the elephant-Miarus apparently. On the bell?

19.05.2008 13:46, алекс 2611

And the elephant-Miarus apparently. On the bell?

Can't it be Zacladus by accident? Or is it Miaris?

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19.05.2008 14:04, omar

Oh, I just saw that I was shot in the back. Miaris is more likely.

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19.05.2008 14:44, Fornax13

Miarus of some kind, then it's problematic with them.

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19.05.2008 17:07, KingSnake

One of the barbels? On a burnt pine tree.

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19.05.2008 18:23, Buzman

To KingSnake: Mesosa myops (Dalman, 1817). Barbel from the subfamily Lamiinae

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19.05.2008 21:42, Mylabris

Regarding ground beetles: unfortunately, 2 specialists on them have not yet answered me - I hope there are objective reasons for this. But it doesn't make it any easier for me - my wife is already getting jealous of her - because when I go to bed, I keep thinking: who she is. Yesterday I visited the website on the carabids of the world - after viewing all the photos for myself, I decided that this is arvensis faldermani. But I'm not so sure...
Entalex, other carabidologists - where are you?! Help the person to fall asleep peacefully!

19.05.2008 21:52, rpanin

Regarding ground beetles: unfortunately, 2 specialists on them have not yet answered me - I hope there are objective reasons for this. But it doesn't make it any easier for me - my wife is already getting jealous of her - because when I go to bed, I keep thinking: who she is. Yesterday I visited the website on the carabids of the world - after viewing all the photos for myself, I decided that this is arvensis faldermani. But I'm not so sure...
Entalex, other carabidologists - where are you?! Help the person to fall asleep peacefully!

And what is the size of a ground beetle?
As for me ,so Carabus (Megodontus) gyllenhali

gibberish

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19.05.2008 23:18, RippeR

not exactly delirium, but the mysticism pulls quite..
Entalex probably does not respond, as it is most likely drooling over the keyboard and it does not work - you need to be careful with such photos

19.05.2008 23:38, Fornax13

Then, according to the "Insect Detector DV", it turns out that these are all such rectus

Most likely. It seems that in the " DV " it was already given for the Urals. You can also search for ab. biformis. They somehow look more interesting

, but in addition to this, several other species are known from Eastern Europe.

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20.05.2008 5:53, akulich-sibiria

beetle caught in Siberia, on lumber..it is difficult to determine even the gender...

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20.05.2008 6:28, Mylabris

Clearly a tenebrioid complex. Maybe one of the Melandrids?

20.05.2008 6:31, Mylabris

Ground beetle size-27mm.

20.05.2008 7:27, REDBOOK

Regarding ground beetles: unfortunately, 2 specialists on them have not yet answered me - I hope there are objective reasons for this. But it doesn't make it any easier for me - my wife is already getting jealous of her - because when I go to bed, I keep thinking: who she is. Yesterday I visited the website on the carabids of the world - after viewing all the photos for myself, I decided that this is arvensis faldermani. But I'm not so sure...
Entalex, other carabidologists - where are you?! Help the person to fall asleep peacefully!

Post a photo to us on forum, someone will answer, for sure.

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20.05.2008 7:59, RippeR

akulich-sibiria:
semanotus undatus
усач

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