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16.11.2007 21:25, RippeR

Mylabris:
To be honest, I'm not very good at parnassus either, as I'm not so keen on them, but I think:
1-delphius
2-bremeri
3-nomion
subspecies will not say yet, because how far to climb into the literature, if no one will let me down, and will not tell me before, and there are probably a lot of them, then I will look and say what smile.gif

16.11.2007 21:40, AntSkr

See subspecies by area here - http://www.nic.funet.fi/pub/sci/bio/life/i...sius/index.html.
In general, it would not hurt to create a theme for them in the image of insects...

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16.11.2007 21:49, RippeR

Precisely!

gumenuk:
I want to thank you for the pictures! Great photos, and the views are cool, I've never met them myself, it's nice to look directly into the topic - look at the pictures smile.gif

16.11.2007 22:28, gumenuk

Precisely!

gumenuk:
I want to thank you for the pictures! Great photos, and the views are cool, I've never met them myself, it's nice to look directly into the topic - look at the pictures smile.gif

I took more than 3 thousand pictures of butterflies this summer. And since I'm not very good at them, I have to determine them using this site. So you will have to look at my pictures for a long time, I think, until the end of January tongue.gif

16.11.2007 22:43, AntSkr

Do you mind if some of your images can be used in databases on some butterfly families that are planned for development? Golubyanka and khokhlatki are interesting.
In general, I advise you to catch for the collection - and determine it yourself so it will be more convenient to compare similar species... And the collection is not bad it will turn smile.gifout

16.11.2007 22:52, gumenuk

Do you mind if some of your images can be used in databases on some butterfly families that are planned for development? Golubyanka and khokhlatki are interesting.
In general, I advise you to catch for the collection - and determine it yourself so it will be more convenient to compare similar species... And the collection is quite good. smile.gif

You can use it. On this site, I will ask you to determine the scoop, tufts, volnyannok, golubyanok (0stalnyh I can determine myself). And so I have quite a lot of footage, almost all the families.
I would be grateful if you then provide a link to the site with the database(if it is available on the Internet).

16.11.2007 22:58, Vlad Proklov

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The first is a form of Alcis repandata, I think.
But the second categorically does not want to be defined... I can't figure out who it is, so we'll wait for other participants...
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16.11.2007 23:13, gumenuk

Maybe these two photos will help you identify it

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16.11.2007 23:21, Vlad Proklov

Maybe these two photos will help you identify it

This is also the same species - I don't know who...

16.11.2007 23:29, gumenuk

This is also the same species - I don't know who...

Boom wait umnik.gif

17.11.2007 1:07, RippeR

zhduuu golubyanok!!!!!!! Do you have thick heads? I'll be happy to help, too smile.gif

And according to the database-you need to push everyone, especially if such a rich collection of moths is included! Such a definitive album can be made!!!!

17.11.2007 2:45, Vlad Proklov

Boom wait umnik.gif

I found it myself smile.gif
This is Pterapherapteryx sexalata.
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17.11.2007 8:14, gumenuk

I found it myself smile.gif
This is Pterapherapteryx sexalata.

I looked at the Googl images - all of them are some kind of gray, but I have a color one. I would never have identified it. Thank you again!

17.11.2007 8:43, gumenuk

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17.11.2007 10:46, Mylabris

Please tell me the names of these butterflies. SE Kazakhstan, Trans-Ili Alatau.

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17.11.2007 11:38, Pavel Morozov

I understand that for many it's a trivial matter, but I can't deal with parnassus (with the help of Tuzov!). Please tell us who they are (up to subspecies, if possible).
All collected: Trans-Ili Alatau, Talgar pass, early August, 2900-3100 m.

Parnassius delphius
Parnassius actius
Parnassius apollo merzbacheri
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19.11.2007 3:07, Ekos

I understand that for many it's a trivial matter, but I can't deal with parnassus (with the help of Tuzov!). Please tell us who they are (up to subspecies, if possible).
All collected: Trans-Ili Alatau, Talgar pass, early August, 2900-3100 m.


I totally agree with Morozzz. This is unambiguous:
1 - Parnassius delphius pulchra
2 - Parnassius actius minutus
3 - Parnassius apollo merzbacheri
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19.11.2007 10:28, svm2

I looked at the Googl images - all of them are some kind of gray, but I have a color one. I would never have identified it. Thank you again!


They are colored, but not so much-it's probably the flash that makes them so. Try using Okoem's advice.
It seems to me not Alcis, but Ectrois crepuscularia.
Eupithecia is difficult, and the scales are so shiny.
Maybe 1-virgaureata, 3-subumbrata.
There are no 2 ideas, I don't seem to have a similar one.
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19.11.2007 13:30, PG18

Please tell me the names of these butterflies. SE Kazakhstan, Trans-Ili Alatau.

Daily data:
Coenonympha pamphilus
Melitaea minerva
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19.11.2007 13:33, PG18

Podsobite, pj, with palsekrylkoy. End of September, Miass (Southern Urals)

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19.11.2007 13:41, Vlad Proklov

Podsobite, pj, with palsekrylkoy. End of September, Miass (Southern Urals)

This is definitely Emmelina sp. -- E. monodactyla or, I don't know if it exists in the Southern Urals, E. argoteles (=pseudojezonica).
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19.11.2007 14:31, gumenuk

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19.11.2007 14:43, Vlad Proklov

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It seems that all three are Xanthorhoe spadicearia...
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19.11.2007 15:01, okoem

They are colored, but not so much-it's probably the flash that makes them so.

After photographing and determining the butterflies from the photo, I came to the opinion that when determining them, you need to focus primarily on the shape of individual elements of the drawing. And the color - it is much less constant. And it can often vary greatly from individual to individual, I mean first of all the scoop and moth. And in addition, the color strongly depends on the source lighting, on the flash, on the white camera's balance setting, on processing in Photoshop, on the monitor settings. This also applies, of course, to photos from other sites and images in books. So I don't see anything surprising in bright colors. And I myself do not focus much on color when determining it. (By the way, I agree with the definition of kotbegemot: -)

I have a question - are there any experts in glass windows here?
June 6, scree n

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19.11.2007 15:04, okoem

They are colored, but not so much-it's probably the flash that makes them so.

After photographing and determining the butterflies from the photo, I came to the opinion that when determining them, you need to focus primarily on the shape of individual elements of the drawing. And the color - it is much less constant. And it can often vary greatly from individual to individual, I mean first of all the scoop and moth. And in addition, the color strongly depends on the source lighting, on the flash, on the white camera's balance setting, on processing in Photoshop, on the monitor settings. This also applies, of course, to photos from other sites and images in books. So I don't see anything surprising in bright colors. And I myself do not focus much on color when determining it. (By the way, I agree with the definition of kotbegemot: -)

I have a question - are there any experts in glass windows here?
June 6, height 1250 meters, scree on the steep southern slopes of Chatyrdag, butterflies flew in mass, laid

19.11.2007 15:23, gumenuk

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19.11.2007 15:33, PG18

I have a question - are there any experts in glass windows here?
June 6, height 1250 meters, scree on the steep southern slopes of Chatyrdag, butterflies flew in a mass, laid eggs on the ground.


I think it's Chamaesphecia empiformis. This one's on milkweed. And in the Urals there is (so it should smile.gifalso be

19.11.2007 15:39, Pavel Morozov

to gumenuk:
the first one is Cleora cinctaria
And the second one looks like it
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19.11.2007 15:51, gumenuk

to gumenuk:
the first one is Cleora cinctaria
And the second one looks like it

2-not Ectropis crepuscularia by chance?

19.11.2007 16:12, PG18

Another couple of quite sickle-winged moths. The first from the Middle Urals, the second from Mugodzhar (posed on the hood of the carsmile.gif.

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19.11.2007 16:20, PG18

And a few more (time and place-in the captions). The last three at least before the family...

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19.11.2007 16:27, svm2

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19.11.2007 16:29, Pavel Morozov

I think 2-Tephrina murinaria

And I think so too, after all.

19.11.2007 16:38, Vlad Proklov

Another couple of quite sickle-winged moths. The first from the Middle Urals, the second from Mugodzhar (posed on the hood of the carsmile.gif.

What are these sickle-winged moths!? smile.gif This is a leaf wrapper and a firebox.
1 - Ancylis ?paludana
2-some kind of herb, I can't be more precise.
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19.11.2007 16:44, Vlad Proklov

And a few more (time and place-in the captions). The last three at least before the family...

1-Similar to Mirificarma cytisella (Gelechiidae)
2-Ognevka, similar to Synaphe sp. -- but not enough for any of the species in the first volume of Slamka.
3-Similar to Plutella xylostella (Plutellidae)
4 and 5 - Gelechiidae.
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19.11.2007 16:45, svm2

And I think so too, after all.

After looking at my murinaria, I agree to the worn Cleora( I didn't have time to edit the previous message)

19.11.2007 16:47, svm2

And I think so too, after all.

After looking at my murinaria, I agree to the worn Cleora( I didn't have time to edit the previous message)

19.11.2007 17:31, gumenuk

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19.11.2007 17:42, svm2

Lobophora halterata
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19.11.2007 18:40, gumenuk

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