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Identification of Lepidoptera (Butterflies and Moths)

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11.11.2007 21:06, okoem

 
The first of your pictures looks like B. appendiculata, but not so much that I'm sure it's her. But on the second butterfly, the front wings are just like B. pumila - but the rear ones are generally baffled. In the book, the hind wings of this species are the same as those of the butterfly in the first photo. And here...

Vova, kolis - it's Budashkin who found new species, isn't it? wink.gif

I caught both appendiculata and pumila.
appendiculata is smaller, and it does not have a greenish color. Although I think that it is not completely excluded that this is it.
pumila really on the front is the same.

Which has white hind wings - this is what our famous Crimean entomologist Dima Puzanov collected on Tarkhankut. About the second one-I don't know, it is possible that he is also there. Photographed at Budashkin's house. He hasn't identified them yet. Just like that Euxoa scoop sp.
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11.11.2007 21:34, gumenuk

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11.11.2007 21:45, Vlad Proklov

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All leaf wrappers.
1 - Eulia ministrana
2-Aethes sp., I can't tell you any further from this angle.
3 - Cnephasia sp. They are boiled.
4 - Notocelia cynosbatella

11.11.2007 21:57, gumenuk

All leaf wrappers.
1 - Eulia ministrana
2-Aethes sp., I can't tell you any further from this angle.
3 - Cnephasia sp. They are boiled.
4 - Notocelia cynosbatella


You answer so quickly that I don't have time to make notes no.gifat home, but this is good, since I still have 50-60 pictures of paperwrappers (or rather, what I consider to be paperwrappers)

11.11.2007 22:25, gumenuk

I continue to torment you with leaf wrappers redface.gif

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11.11.2007 22:40, Vlad Proklov

I continue to torment you with leaf wrappers redface.gif

The first is not a leaf wrapper, but a real moth smile.gif
1 - Monopis monachella (Tineidae)

But with these leafhoppers-it is difficult: this is such a group (genera Hedya and Apotomis) with, roughly speaking, divided into two parts of the front wings, black-blue and light - in it, the timing of summer and biotope can help with identification. I'll try to guess, but I'm not sure.
2 - Apotomis turbidana
3 - Apotomis capreana
It seems that they are most similar to these...

This post was edited by kotbegemot - 11.11.2007 22: 42
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11.11.2007 23:25, gumenuk

The first one seems to have already been set (another frame)- and this one is for clarification

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11.11.2007 23:45, Vlad Proklov

The first one seems to have already been set (another frame)- and this one is for clarification

Three leaf wrappers, and the last one is a firebox.
1-yes, the same kohilina Aethes sp.. I would like to see the straightened one...
2 -?Syndemis musculana
3 - Syricoris lacunana
4-Sciota adelphella, sort of. I'm sorry, Sciota rhenella.

This post was edited by kotbegemot - 11.11.2007 23: 49

11.11.2007 23:49, gumenuk

Three leaf wrappers, and the last one is a firebox.
1-yes, the same kohilina Aethes sp.. I would like to see the straightened one...
2 -?Syndemis musculana
3 - Syricoris lacunana
4-Sciota adelphella, sort of.


Thank you for your quick response! There are no straightened ones - I only take photos

12.11.2007 0:01, gumenuk

I'm continuing:

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12.11.2007 0:02, barry

Help determine, pls...

01. Kharkiv, 12.06.2007
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02. Crimea, 14.08.2007
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03. Crimea, 14.08.2007
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04. Crimea, 16.08.2007
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05. Crimea, 19.08.2007
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06. Crimea, 22.06.2007
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07. Crimea, 19.08.2007
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08. Crimea, 19.08.2007
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09. Crimea, 19.08.2007
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10. Crimea, 19.08.2007
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11. Crimea, 20.08.2007
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12. Crimea, 21.08.2007
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12.11.2007 0:35, Vlad Proklov

I'm continuing:

Unfortunately, I can't say anything about the first two frown.gif
3-another Syricoris lacunana
4 - ?Cochylidia subroseana. I'm not sure.

12.11.2007 0:40, Vlad Proklov

Help determine, pls...

1 - Adelidae sp.
5-7 - Coleophora sp(p).
9 - Spiris striata
11 - ?Lyonetiidae sp.
12-apparently Pancalia leuwenhoekella

This post was edited by kotbegemot - 11/12/2007 00: 44

12.11.2007 0:41, gumenuk

But these are somewhat similar to each other:

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12.11.2007 0:48, Vlad Proklov

But these are somewhat similar to each other:

Related genera, that's what they look like smile.gif
1, 2 - Lozotaenia forsterana
3, 4, 5 - Clepsis spectrana
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12.11.2007 1:10, Vlad Proklov

Yes - which I recognized earlier as a possible Syndemis musculana - I looked at it again - is also Clepsis spectrana...

12.11.2007 1:39, gumenuk

Yes - which I recognized earlier as a possible Syndemis musculana - I looked at it again - is also Clepsis spectrana...

Thanks for fixing it. That's all for today, I went to bed eek.gif

12.11.2007 1:41, gumenuk

Thanks for fixing it. That's all for today, I went to bed eek.gif

What is the difference in the drawing (coloring) - I would certainly attribute them to different views

12.11.2007 11:44, gumenuk

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12.11.2007 16:54, Vlad Proklov

I continue to display what I consider to be leaf wrappers (for a more precise definition) confused.gif

All leafhoppers, except the penultimate one (broad-winged moth).
1 - Celypha striana
2-Notocelia roborana (=aquana)
3, 4-I don't know exactly, maybe one of the forms of Epinotia brunnichana?
5 - Hypercallia citrinalis (Oecophoridae)
6 - Celypha rosaceana

12.11.2007 17:56, gumenuk

I'm continuing:

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12.11.2007 18:01, svm2

2,4-Nycteola revayana
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12.11.2007 18:08, IchMan

Experts in all this trivia, please help with the definition, if it is possible without dissecting the genitals. Taken in Central Karelia
on 1. 15.07.06
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2. 28.06.07
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12.11.2007 18:09, Vlad Proklov

I'm continuing:

In two of the photos-nolida from macro-lepidoptera, the rest are leafwings.
1 - Ancylis badiana
2, 4 - Nycteola degenerana (Nolidae)
3-possibly a form of Epinotia solandriana?
5-looks like another Clepsis spectrana

12.11.2007 18:11, Vlad Proklov

2,4-Nycteola revayana

There is, it seems, no N. revayana in the Moscow region: similar specimens according to genital analysis turn out to be N. degenerana...

12.11.2007 18:12, barry

1 - Adelidae sp.
5-7 - Coleophora sp(p).
9 - Spiris striata
11 - ?Lyonetiidae sp.
12-apparently Pancalia leuwenhoekella

Thanks! With the rest-it won't work? At least a family...

12.11.2007 18:22, Vlad Proklov

Experts in all this trivia, please help with the definition, if it is possible without dissecting the genitals. Taken in Central Karelia

1 - Epinotia nemorivaga. Most like her, but I'm not sure.
2 - Nemophora amatella.
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12.11.2007 18:27, svm2

There is, it seems, no N. revayana in the Moscow region: similar specimens according to genital analysis turn out to be N. degenerana...


According to this list there are
http://www.sungaya.narod.ru/s/01.htm

It doesn't look like degenerana

12.11.2007 18:34, gumenuk

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12.11.2007 18:53, Vlad Proklov

According to this list there are
http://www.sungaya.narod.ru/s/01.htm

It doesn't look like degenerana

... on one old copy, and the article does not say that they identified it by genitals. Nimu also caught a nicteola similar to revayana - and took down Sviridova-he said that degenerana was most likely (left to cook-Nimu, if you read-what did it turn out to be?).

12.11.2007 18:57, IchMan

1 - Epinotia nemorivaga. Most like her, but I'm not sure.
2 - Nemophora amatella.

Thanks for the quick identification
IMHO, Epinotia nemorivaga in Karelia has not yet been noted, but in principle nothing prevents it from being here - it lives in Finland...

And with Nemophora, the question arose - it is not known what kind of species N. religatella was? The author may be Zetterstedt, but not the fact, was shortened to one first letter. Whose synonym can it be? And then I don't have any literature on this group, but in some old Finnish one? In the article I found an indication of the discovery of this species in Karelia.

12.11.2007 19:01, Vlad Proklov

  confused.gif The mercury lamp may cause color distortion in the 7858 image

LEAF WRAPPERS, except for the first and last ones.
1 - Exaeretia allisella (Depressariidae)
2 - ?Apotomis inundana
3 - Pandemis ?corylana
4 - Aethes ?cnicana
5-regular Nomophila noctuella (Crambidae: Pyraustinae)

12.11.2007 19:02, Vlad Proklov

Thanks for the quick identification
IMHO, Epinotia nemorivaga in Karelia has not yet been noted, but in principle nothing prevents it from being here - it lives in Finland...

And with Nemophora, the question arose - it is not known what kind of species N. religatella was? The author may be Zetterstedt, but not the fact, was shortened to one first letter. Whose synonym can it be? And then I don't have any literature on this group, but in some old Finnish one? In the article I found an indication of the discovery of this species in Karelia.

Hahasmile.gif, I just looked at the Kivach report myself smile.gif
I haven't figured out who it is yet...

12.11.2007 19:04, Vlad Proklov


And with Nemophora, the question arose - it is not known what kind of species N. religatella was?

Found smile.gifThis synonym for Adela croesella.

12.11.2007 19:11, IchMan

Hahasmile.gif, I just looked at the Kivach report myself smile.gif
I haven't figured out who it is yet...


A-a-a!, so it was Kutenkova who passed this species in the list of 1989. And I made a mistake on the Finns. Something in the database was not specified by the source - there is not enough time for all the units. I'll have to ask her what she meant when we meet.

Thank you, the answer is already ready smile.gif

This post was edited by IchMan - 11/12/2007 19: 12

12.11.2007 19:19, Vlad Proklov

A-a-a!, so it was Kutenkova who passed this species in the list of 1989. And I made a mistake on the Finns. Something in the database was not specified by the source - there is not enough time for all the units. I'll have to ask her what she meant when we meet.

Thank you, the answer is already ready smile.gif

And what kind of base, by the way? In the public domain?

12.11.2007 19:24, Vlad Proklov

Thanks! With the rest-it won't work? At least a family...

Pfft! Don't frown.gif
Okoem-and we need to wait, maybe he will see something familiar...

12.11.2007 19:32, gumenuk

Thank you, all painted in your archive. Next batch:

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12.11.2007 19:35, IchMan

And what kind of base, by the way? In the public domain?


Yes, not yet. There's still a lot to enter.
More or less fully presented diptera (almost all the materials of recent years) and, to a lesser extent, membranes, which I myself deal with.
With the rest of the teams-we hope to get some money, collect all the local entomologists (very few) in a bunch and bring the database to a decent form, when it can be dumped on the network - so that people will be happy wink.gif

By the way, here is a link to a fairly recent list of Kutenkova's additions to the Marolepidoptera fauna of Karelia
http://www.krc.karelia.ru/publ.php?id=1966&plang=r
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12.11.2007 20:00, Vlad Proklov

Thank you, all painted in your archive. Next batch:

All Leaf
Wrappers 1 - another Celypha striana
2-another Lozotaenia forsterana
3 - ?Eucosma sp. I can't go any further.
With the rest I find it difficult, I'll look again later...

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