Identification of Lepidoptera (Butterflies and Moths)

Here are two more egg yolks.
The male is light, with androconial spots. Such males are relatively common in the Crimea. All of them are quite small in size.
It is interesting to hear who will have any opinions - what is it? Light form of crocea,
(see fig. http://www.grayling.dircon.co.uk/page9.html)
or Colias erate f. androconiata?
The same is true for the female-crocea or erata? Are there any external differences in the females of these two species, other than color?

This post was edited by okoem - 03.11.2007 14: 54

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In my opinion, the second photo shows the usual erata.

Here are two more egg yolks.
The male is light, with androconial spots. Such males are relatively common in the Crimea. All of them are quite small in size.
It is interesting to hear who will have any opinions - what is it? Light form of crocea,
(see fig. http://www.grayling.dircon.co.uk/page9.html)
or Colias erate f. androconiata?
The same is true for the female-crocea or erata? Are there any external differences in the females of these two species, other than color?

Does the female not look like a normal erate?
The male is interesting, I didn't even know that erate has some form of androconiata... But if there is , it must be her.
It's a creepy band.

Does the female not look like a normal erate?

But the whole question is who in our Crimea can be called an "ordinary era". Either I don't know how to distinguish them from other yolks, or they are so rare here, but this season, this is the first female that looks like an "ordinary erata". And typical erata males are found, but also not often. Typical - I mean like in the last photo, but without androconial spots.

update:
Does anyone read German? What here is it written about the differences between hyale and alfacariensis? What is there in the circle to look at?

This post was edited by okoem - 03.11.2007 23: 11

I'll try to translate it, although I may have some problems with entomological terms.:

Colias alfacariensis:
black coloration (literally-black "ocheshuennost") at the base of the cell is weakly expressed (highlighted in a circle)
the apex is rounded
the main tone is warm, intense yellow
orange-yellow spot on the hindwings is bright, saturated

Colias hyale:
black color at the base of the cell is well defined (highlighted in a circle)
the apex is pointed
the main tone is pale greenish-yellow
orange-yellow spot is pale

Colias grieshuberi is synonymous with Colias hyale hyale

I'll try to translate it, although I may have some problems with entomological terms.:

Colias alfacariensis:
black coloration (literally-black "ocheshuennost") at the base of the cell is weakly expressed (highlighted in a circle)
the apex is rounded
the main tone is warm, intense yellow
orange-yellow spot on the hindwings is bright, saturated

Colias hyale:
black color at the base of the cell is well defined (highlighted in a circle)
the apex is pointed
the main tone is pale greenish-yellow
orange-yellow spot is pale

Colias grieshuberi is synonymous with Colias hyale hyale

It is also written that the underparts of both species do not differ significantly, and the females of both species are also indistinguishable.
09.09.2006 in Feodosia, Tepe-Oba, I caught a male Colias, which I personally identified as alfacariensis. I. G. Plyushch said the same thing - with a probability of 90%. I'll try to take a picture and post it.

Compare

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Please note that there are androconial "pads" on the underside of the forewings at the base, which means definitely not Carcharodus alceae or C. lavatherae. And to reliably distinguish C. flocciferus from C. orientalis, you need to cook the genitals.

Porostite, but despite your arrows, I don't see any "pads"at point-blank range. I think alceae, or lavatherae. In the end, it's easier to cook than to argue in vain.

There really are pads - fluffy" fur " rounded areas. Here's an enlarged snapshot.
I looked at the atlases available to me - indeed, only males of C. flocciferus and C. orientalis have such pads.

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hmgm.. ariyenthalez (I don't understand, I said in code, so that no one would attack)
By the way, from the above boiled butterflies with their genitals pulled out, which are not clear to whom they belong without cooking, allegedly.. I would say that the first ex is a typical orientalis, the last one is almost a typical flozziferus, except for the zigzags at the bottom, but I would never take the rest for Orientalis.. Nevertheless, if the ekz looks like an orientalis (as in this case), I think you can write unconditionally
By the way, the last orientalis struck.. well, in general, it does not look like any sideways, especially with the size of the Genitals, it is better to double-check if there may be at least a small fraction of doubt, because everyone is wrong..

Dear Ripper, I generally don't keep butterflies unless their genitals are cooked (if I catch someone myself, then I immediately remove the genitals from a freshly caught butterfly with eye tweezers. At the same time, the abdomen looks intact). So you can be sure that the genital definition is correct. And the fact that the butterfly does not look like what you would like to see is the 1001st proof that the iconographic definition (i.e., from the picture) in some cases is bullshit and gives ABSOLUTELY incorrect results. Try to distinguish between Pyrgus serratulae, P. alveus and P. armoricanus by their appearance, especially if they have already flown for a couple of days in windy weather. Or P. malvae and P. melotis. Or whitefish Leptidea. And let's remember that this is not the 19th century, and genitals have been the most important diagnostic feature for more than 100 years. And those who do not want to use this method of determination will always make gross mistakes in determining the material. If it's for yourself, then for God's sake. But then you should not, for example, write faunal lists and mislead others(there are plenty of negative examples).

I absolutely agree.. need.. But you also need to be able to do it.. it's not that simple.. I've ruined so many leptides this year that it's a pity to just translate such frequent material.. At malve, too, tried to tear out, but what happened-it's hard to say what..
By the way, serratula, alveus and armoricanus are not so difficult to distinguish.. But if flown, then really..
Techniques like pulling out don't help me, I need someone to show me.. but there is no one.. So you have to work with what you have. It can be the same for anyone.. So telling someone to pull their genitals when they can't do it.. you can't, you have to work with your eyes

Here are two more egg yolks.
The male is light, with androconial spots. Such males are relatively common in the Crimea. All of them are quite small in size.
It is interesting to hear who will have any opinions - what is it? Light form of crocea,
(see fig. http://www.grayling.dircon.co.uk/page9.html)
or Colias erate f. androconiata?
The same is true for the female-crocea or erata? Are there any external differences in the females of these two species, other than color?

Both-erate.
(The Cyprus site, like any other, is not an example)
Volodya, a bunch of rabbits and erat flew when they were in the valley in front of Uzun-syrt from Koktebel. Yerata was the most typical of both males and females.
When you have enough of them, there will be no problems with the definition of yolks, with experience it will come. (And when you catch Chrysotheme, you'll know it's her, too.)
Females differ in erata and crocea, in general, not in the color, but in the shape of the wings, spots on the border of P. K. and most importantly-the shape of the spots of the border of Z. K.

Techniques like pulling out don't help me, I need someone to show me.. but there is no one.. So you have to work with what you have. It can be the same for anyone.. So telling someone to pull their genitals when they can't do it.. you can't, you have to work with your eyes

You can, for example, separate the entire abdomen and cook it. Then dissect the genitals, where in theory only they will remain from the entrails.
Or, as an option - to train and get your hands on mass material

This post was edited by Bad Den - 11/06/2007 13: 46

I will go pokotsayu various material, I will remain without the exchange and in general any material About the results, read in the next issue

Attention of specialists!
Can you tell me what kind of animal it is?
Shooting - Karelia, the shore of Lake Onega on July 4, 2004
Please note that if you are not sure about the exact definition, this should be noted!

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Ptilodon capucina-flying like

Flown around so much? Do they vary so much in color? Those photos that I saw on different sites are completely different in color and the dark pattern is brighter and more contrasting...

There are also very light forms. They are different in different regions. The Notodontidae family simply has quite variable species. In the Ministry of Defense, for example, I saw only light forms, as well as light brown ones. I haven't seen it with a reddish tinge. Maybe it depends on the temperature? ...

Moley shot this representative in the Vladimir region in early July 2007 at korostavnik. The body length is about 7 mm. Help me determine

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Moley shot this representative in the Vladimir region in early July 2007 at korostavnik. The body length is about 7 mm. Help me determine

Nemophora metallica (Adelidae) is found in the Vladimirskaya region.

Attention of specialists!
Can you tell me what kind of animal it is?
Shooting - Karelia, the shore of Lake Onega on July 4, 2004
Please note that if you are not sure about the exact definition, this should be noted!

Yes, flown by P. capucina

"There are also quite light forms. They are different in different regions. The Notodontidae family simply has quite variable species. In the Ministry of Defense, for example, I saw only light forms, as well as light brown ones. I haven't seen it with a reddish tinge. Maybe it depends on the temperature?..."


When I was engaged in breeding butterflies from pupae, it turned out that under the same conditions, butterflies of completely different shades were bred. By the way, so poluchaloy not only with P. capucina.

in a freshly caught butterfly, I immediately remove the genitals with eye tweezers.

Two questions appeared:
1. What kind of tweezers are these? What does it look like? What is its special feature?
2. And if these freshly cured genitals are immediately under the binocular? Or just cook?

When I was engaged in breeding butterflies from pupae, it turned out that under the same conditions, butterflies of completely different shades were bred. By the way, this is not only the case with P. capucina.

Don't they have any forms?

This post was edited by AntSkr - 07.11.2007 22: 26

eye tweezers - long, with very thin forceps, rather soft, i.e. easily "compressed"

Filmed in April-May of this year in the Moscow region. Help me figure it out

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Achlya flavicornis
N.torva
Lycia hirtaria
Drymonia ruficornis

to: okoem
1. Ripper described the tweezers roughly correctly. At the end, the grippers are less than 1 mm wide.
2. If you do not digest even fresh genitals, many of their structures will be covered with connective tissue and either it is closed and not visible, or individual structures of the genitals will be rolled up or drawn to others, i.e., there will be no recognizable appearance. So you should always cook.

Achlya flavicornis
N.torva
Lycia hirtaria
Drymonia ruficornis

Thank you so much for your help!
I didn't think Achlya flavicornis belongs to the Drepanidae.
And Drymonia ruficornis is included in the Red Book of the Moscow region.
But I couldn't find out what N. torva is because of my ignorance. If you can tell me a little more.

Thanks, but I couldn't find out what N. torva is due to my ignorance. If you can tell me a little more.

Notodonta torva

Here are some other butterflies that I'm having trouble identifying

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2-Calocasia coruli
1,3.4-Gluphisia crenata

2-Calocasia coruli
1,3.4-Gluphisia crenata

Thanks, but about 008_A003349.jpg I doubt

Thanks, but about 008_A003349.jpg I doubt it

exactly crenata, only female.

exactly crenata, only female.

Thank you, I don't doubt it now

I took pictures of all sorts of small things, and with them in general complete darkness. At least try to find out

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I took pictures of all sorts of small things, and with them in general complete darkness. At least try to find out

A small thing is always interesting
Although in these pictures-a very large trifle

All - fireflies from the family Pyralidae
1-narrow-winged firefly (subfamily Phycitinae) from the Trachycera/Acrobasis group. I can't be more precise until...
2-Aphomia sociella, male
3-same, but female

This post was edited by kotbegemot - 11/08/2007 19: 16

A small thing is always interesting
Although in these pictures-a very large trifle

All - fireflies from the family Pyralidae
1-narrow-winged firefly (subfamily Phycitinae) from the Trachycera/Acrobasis group. I can't be more precise until...
2-Aphomia sociella, male
3-same, but female

Thank you, I will gradually post the results of my night vigils (these are all night shots of what flew into the light of mercury lpmpa. By the way, there were a lot of fire trucks flying, although this summer was not as rich as the summer of 2006).