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03.01.2008 10:55, Pavel Morozov

Here is the photo.
On the left - felderi felderi (Jewish Autonomous Region, Obluchye), on the right - felderi maui (Primorsky Krai, Dalnegorsk) (according to the Determinant of V. K. Tuzov et al.)
As you know, Apollons have a pronounced individual izmechivost, and the size of the spots does not matter.

Pictures:
picture: felderi.jpg

felderi.jpg — (310.1к)

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03.01.2008 12:01, Zoom

Many thanks to Morozzz, but the development of bandages and the length of the transverse smear on the lower wing also does not matter?

03.01.2008 18:58, AntSkr

I looked carefully, the first and third from the end - the same species, Lacanobia oleracea, and what kind of Agrochola?
Does it also look like Lacanobia oleracea?
picture: Lacanobia_oleracea.19.08.07.jpg

picture: Lacanobia_oleracea.19.08.07.jpg

This post was edited by AntSkr - 03.01.2008 19: 02

03.01.2008 19:26, Pavel Morozov

Agrochola though flown, but it seems to be circellaris

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03.01.2008 19:29, Pavel Morozov

I looked carefully, the first and third from the end - the same species, Lacanobia oleracea, and what kind of Agrochola?
Does it also look like Lacanobia oleracea?

Yes, oleracea

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03.01.2008 20:10, AntSkr

Here are some more types
of 1.
picture: 9.08.07.jpg

3.Nonagria typhae?
picture: 24.08.07.jpg

4.Mythimna ferrago?
picture: 29.07.07.jpg

5. It seems to be some kind of Amphipoea, but there are doubts, for example, the shape of the wings is different. But nothing else comes to mind. Caught on September 29.
picture: 29.09.07.jpg

6. 2 different types of Cucullia?
picture: Cucullia.jpg

7.Noctua sp.
picture: Noctua.08.07.jpg

And a couple of types of lichens:
Eilema sp., like complana and depressa.
picture: 10.08.07.jpg

This post was edited by AntSkr - 03.01.2008 20: 16

03.01.2008 21:49, Ilia Ustiantcev

5 - Mythimna turca. Very colorful view, I love it!
On top - also some kind of Mythimna.
As for hoods, it is very difficult to distinguish their types by photos, they can be the same, perhaps both are the most common species - umbratica.
Noctua is most likely orbona, but it can also be interposita.

This post was edited by Ilya U-03.01.2008 21: 56

03.01.2008 22:03, AntSkr

Is it Mythimna turca? Of all the photos found on the Internet, not one looks like mine.

03.01.2008 22:31, Ilia Ustiantcev

Oh, I'm wrong, it's probably not even Mythimna! The Turk does not have two white spots, and there are almost no lines-dots at the outer edge. And the previous one is definitely ferrago.

03.01.2008 22:40, Vlad Proklov

Here are some more views

2-fire pit Galleria mellonella. I'll take a look at the dustpan later.

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03.01.2008 22:43, Pavel Morozov

So.
1-Amphypoea fucosa
3 - Nonargia typhae
4-Mythimna ferrago
5 - Eupsilia transversa
6-Cucullia umbratica
7-Noctua interposita
Lichens - all right.

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03.01.2008 22:52, AntSkr

Can this fingerfly be identified? Caught on October 28.
picture: DSC00305.jpg

03.01.2008 23:21, Vlad Proklov

Can this fingerfly be identified? Caught on October 28.

Emmelina monodactyla Nothing else

This post was edited by kotbegemot - 03.01.2008 23: 21

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03.01.2008 23:36, AntSkr

Well, the last kind, maybe Eurois occulta?
picture: DSC00310.jpg

This post was edited by AntSkr - 03.01.2008 23: 46

04.01.2008 1:03, Pavel Morozov

Yes, it is Eurois occulta

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04.01.2008 11:46, AntSkr

Another question: what is the difference between Mythimna impura and Mythimna pallens?

04.01.2008 12:14, Pavel Morozov

impura with darker hindwings
pallens are lighter, the hindwings are almost white.
According to my data, in Odintsovo district M. O. M. pallens appears later than M. impura.

04.01.2008 12:42, okoem

It seems to be a red book, but it flies quite often. But I wonder why gamma is rare, it should fly often, and it is also considered a pest.

Duc in the red books of what just is not listed... A lot of mass-produced things, especially large species, but really rare, but small species are not there. So forget about CC. I recommend reading it here -

"The Red Book of Ukraine-a collection of farm pseudoscientific jokes"
http://babochki-kryma.narod.ru/files/lib/do_princypiv.htm

"The stupidity of our laws is well known"
http://entomolog.narod.ru/zakon_red_book.html

This post was edited by okoem - 04.01.2008 12: 52

04.01.2008 12:56, AntSkr

1. Both pallens? The second one has slightly darker rear fenders, unfortunately you can't see clearly in the photo, but not by much.
picture: DSC00312.jpg

2. Banal view, except for Agrotis segetum nothing fits, in my opinion. This is if you take into account individual variability, since males of Agrotis segetum are light brown and have feathery whiskers if it is a female.
picture: DSC00314.jpg

3. Xestia baja?
picture: Xestia_baja.jpg

4. Most likely from the subfamily Noctuinae, further I find it difficult.
picture: DSC00316.jpg

04.01.2008 14:26, Pavel Morozov

So it is, both are M. pallens
Xestia baia similar.
Others - Agrotis segetum

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04.01.2008 17:00, AntSkr

And this is all X. icteritia? I am interested in the last two, since the first ones are exactly them.
picture: X._icteritia.jpg

04.01.2008 18:39, Pavel Morozov

Yes, they are. This is a very changeable scoop.

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05.01.2008 10:26, Konung

There are a few questionable scoops that I can't identify:
picture: 01.jpg

All scoops are from Western Siberia, Omsk region, forest steppe, except 06-it is from the steppe.
01 - Lacanobia aliena or Lacanobia suasa... Leaning towards alien'e
02-Mythimna ferrago?
03 - in my opinion, too, Mythimna sp...
04 - something from Hypeninae
05, 06-Noctuinae.
Help please!

This post was edited by Konung-05.01.2008 12: 01

06.01.2008 13:47, Ilia Ustiantcev

There are many photos of different tropical butterflies from exhibitions, etc. Help with the definition.
Part 1
1. picture: _____________.___..jpg

VDNKh
2.

Sevastopol
3. picture: __________.jpg

Sevastopol - Hamadryas sp.
4. picture: _____________.jpg

VDNKh-Pieridae
5. picture: __________.jpg

Sevastopol-Helikonida, perhaps Isabella?
6. picture: ___________2.jpg

Sevastopol-Helikonida
7. picture: ___________3.jpg

Helikonida Zoo
8. picture: ______________________3.jpg

Helikonida Zoo
9. picture: ____________.jpg

Helikonida Zoo or not? Similar to Charitonia, but confused by red spots.
10. picture: _________________.jpg

VDNKh-Hypolimnas sp?

06.01.2008 14:15, RippeR

4-Hebomoia glaucippe
10-Hypolimnas bolina
9-maybe something closer to limenitis?????

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07.01.2008 11:39, Ilia Ustiantcev

I decided to re-post some butterflies. What if you get lucky?
1. picture: pyralidae3.jpg

Pyraustinae. Crimea.
2. picture: geometridae21.jpg

Sterrhinae. mo.
3. picture: geometridae28.jpg

Moth. MO.
Now scoops.
4. picture: noctuidae2.jpg

Moscow.
5. picture: noctuidae3.jpg

Hydraecia micacea? Moscow.
6. picture: noctuidae5.jpg

Lacanobia sp.? Moscow.
7. picture: noctuidae6.jpg

MO.
8.

Paradrina clavipalpis? Moscow.
9. picture: noctuidae9.jpg

Diarsia sp.? Moscow.
10. picture: noctuidae10.jpg

MO.
11.

МО.

08.01.2008 0:37, Pavel Morozov

to Ilya Y:
1st Tropical butterfly-exactly the nymphalid Historis odius
Scoops: 4-Paradrina clavipalpis
5 - Hydraecia micacea
6 - Apamea sordens

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08.01.2008 8:58, Guest

to Ilya Y:
1-probably Loxostege sticticalis

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08.01.2008 9:05, Сергей-Д

to Konung:
03-resembles Simyra albovenosa
04-not Hypeninae but something close to Caradrina-Hoplodrina

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08.01.2008 11:03, Konung

To Ilya Y:
7-like Euxoa nigricans
10-like Mesapamea hedeni

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09.01.2008 11:25, Zoom

Help me define please.
top of the wings:
user posted image

and bottom:
user posted image

another butterfly
top:
user posted image

bottom:

09.01.2008 17:30, Vlad Proklov

Help me define please.

1 - Parnassius (Driopa) eversmanni felderi
2 - Aldania raddei.

09.01.2008 18:07, Zoom

kotbegemot how did you define 1?

09.01.2008 18:11, Vlad Proklov

kotbegemot how did you define 1?

Strange question. There is nothing else it can be

09.01.2008 18:12, Zoom

what about PARNASSIUS FELDERI BREMER or another felderi variety?

09.01.2008 18:16, Zoom

eversmanni felderi seems to have more developed bandages...

09.01.2008 18:19, Vlad Proklov

what about PARNASSIUS FELDERI BREMER or another felderi variety?

That's what I wrote: eversmanni felderi. For a certain period of time, it was indeed considered a separate species - however, recently, including thanks to the article by Yu. Glushchenko, A. Martynenko, E. Zakharova and A. Streltsov became Comme il faut to consider it a subspecies of eversmanni instead.

09.01.2008 18:20, Vlad Proklov

eversmanni felderi seems to have more developed bandages...

The bandages of the females are developed, and this is the male.

09.01.2008 18:30, Guest

That's what I wrote: eversmanni felderi. For a certain period of time, it was indeed considered a separate species - however, recently, including thanks to the article by Yu. Glushchenko, A. Martynenko, E. Zakharova and A. Streltsov began Comme il faut to consider it a subspecies of eversmanni instead.

Are you talking about Felderi Bremer?

09.01.2008 18:42, Zoom

Question for clarity:is this the Felderi that is listed in the Red Book of Russia?I ask because it is very similar....

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