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Identification of Lepidoptera (Butterflies and Moths)

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14.01.2008 8:19, bials

mol.gif Help with golubyankami M. O.
1. picture: 01.jpg
2. picture: 2.jpg
3.picture: 13.jpg
Unfortunately, this undergarment could not be removed. frown.gif
4. picture: 03.jpg

14.01.2008 10:21, Konung

1-Polyommatus icarus (Rottemburg, 1775), male
2, 3 - Aricia eumedon (Esper, 1780)
4 - probably female of some Plebeian species... Plebejus argyrognomon (Bergstrasser, 1779) possibly... although the shape of the spots is similar to Icarus...

This post was edited by Konung - 14.01.2008 10: 28
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14.01.2008 11:20, bials

2, 3 - Aricia eumedon (Esper, 1780)

Are Aricia eumedon and Eumedonia eumedon the same thing or not? And then I
have Eumedonia eumedon is, and the bottom and top are different from these and these look different. Or are they variations? (These Gobian women will break the devil's leg in general eek.gif)

This post was edited by bials - 14.01.2008 11: 24

14.01.2008 11:41, bials

Help! Did I correctly identify these as the brown Chervonets (Heodes Tityrus)?
a male? picture: _______________________01.jpg
a female? picture: _______________________02.jpg

This post was edited by bials - 14.01.2008 12: 58

14.01.2008 14:15, Konung

2bials: Aricia eumedon = Eumedonia eumedon.
chervontsy both males heodes tityrus!
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14.01.2008 14:31, bials

chervontsy both males of heodes tityrus!

What does the female look like? Where exactly to consider, and then in the search engines everything is in a heap and then half of the incorrectly identified ones.

14.01.2008 14:46, svm2

At least here
http://macrolepidoptera.hu/index.php?s=4&s...d=d12&iss=0&g=1
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14.01.2008 15:21, Vlad Proklov


4-probably a female of some plebeian species... Plebejus argyrognomon (Bergstrasser, 1779) possibly... although the shape of the spots is similar to Icarus...

Icarus is smile.gif
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14.01.2008 17:45, Andylog


4-probably a female of some plebeian species... Plebejus argyrognomon (Bergstrasser, 1779) possibly... although the shape of the spots is similar to Icarus...

P.icarus female
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14.01.2008 17:50, Andylog

Please identify these fatheads and one blackie!!!

12 - Erebia ligea
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14.01.2008 20:21, okoem

Tell me PLIZ!!! Whose caterpillars are these: the Daytime Peacock's Eye or the Variegated Moth?

In my opinion mottled wings. (Actually, the caterpillars are defined in a separate topic.)
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14.01.2008 20:43, Vlad Proklov


Why Amanda? Amanda is also" blue " sometimes. And also Thersite. I just don't know if there is one in the Ministry of Defense?

I've never seen such blue Amanda females in the Moscow region. But there are plenty of such females of Icarus. And the nature of the edge holes speaks for Icarus.

Tersite is not listed in the Ministry of Defense, but it is in the Tula region, literally on the border with Moscow, so it is more than likely (for the Serebryanoprudsky district). It is definitely not present in the entire region.
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14.01.2008 21:22, bials

(Actually, the caterpillars are defined in a separate topic.)

Excuse mol.gifme. I'm just hanging out between two topics, so I'm confused. shuffle.gif
"bials" and "slipknofill" are respectively father and son, we go from the same computer but from different directories.

This post was edited by bials - 14.01.2008 21: 28
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14.01.2008 21:46, bials

  
Tersite is not listed in the Ministry of Defense, but it is in the Tula region, literally on the border with Moscow, so it is more than likely (for the Serebryanoprudsky district). It's definitely not available in the entire region.

And I did not think that the ranges can be so limited eek.gif. And all my son and I (slipknofill) pictures were taken in the Moscow Region, Ramenskoye or Odintsovo district, there are no others.

This post was edited by bials - 14.01.2008 23: 26

15.01.2008 6:48, Guest

1, 4, 5 - Polyommatus icarus
2 - Glaucopsyche alexis
3 - Polyommatus (Plebicula) amandus
6 - Cupido (Everes) argiades


3-rather female Eumedonia eumedon

15.01.2008 6:52, Guest

1, 4, 7, 8 - Carterocephalus silvicola
2, 5, 6, 9, 10, 11 - Ochlodes sylvanus
3-Thymelicus sp., since the female -- needs an underside.
With chernushka I find it difficult-there are only two types of them in the Moscow region, but they differ again in their underwear. E. ligea can be found everywhere in the forests, and E. aethiops can also be found on the Oka River.

1-C. palaemon (judging by the white spots)
Blackie - E. ligea (judging by the mottled fringe)

15.01.2008 8:47, Konung

What does the female look like? Where exactly to consider, and then in the search engines everything is in a heap and then half of the incorrectly identified ones.

right here: http://macroclub.ru/glr/displayimage.php?pos=-16776

15.01.2008 19:01, Ilia Ustiantcev

And what are these mortal remnants of a moth? I found it in Pushchino.
picture: _________4.jpg
picture: _________5.jpg

This post was edited by Ilya U - 15.01.2008 19: 02

15.01.2008 21:30, slipknofill

Tell me who it is!!! Please!!!
(Sennitsa, Steklesnitsa, Tonkopryal), that's all I know!!!

1.picture: ________________1.jpg
2.picture: ____________________01.jpg
3.picture: __________01.1.jpg

15.01.2008 22:24, Vlad Proklov

Tell me who it is!!! Please!!!
(Sennitsa, Steklesnitsa, Tonkopryal), that's all I know!!!

1 - Coenonympha glycerion
2 - Pennisetia hylaeiformis
3 - Triodia sylvina
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15.01.2008 22:54, Pavel Morozov

And what are these mortal remnants of a moth? I found it in Pushchino.

Is this a juilo Apeira syringaria?
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15.01.2008 23:21, AntSkr

In my opinion, some kind of Selenia. Syringaria is different. What's the size?

16.01.2008 11:29, Pavel Morozov

It seems to fit the female A. syringaria
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16.01.2008 17:41, slipknofill

And what is the difference between Hepialis sylvinus L. and Triodia sylvina L., otherwise it is not clear!!! wall.gif

16.01.2008 17:50, slipknofill

Please identify these Mottled Birds!!!

1.picture: __________________1.jpg

2.picture: __________________3.jpg

3.picture: __________________2.jpg

4.picture: ____________________________01.jpg

5.picture: _____________________________01.jpg

16.01.2008 18:23, AntSkr

And what is the difference between Hepialis sylvinus L. and Triodia sylvina L., otherwise it is not clear!!! wall.gif

Hepialis sylvinus is a synonym for Triodia sylvina. The endings us and a don't matter. This has already been discussed in one of the topics.

This post was edited by AntSkr - 16.01.2008 18: 24
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16.01.2008 18:30, Vlad Proklov

Please identify these Mottled Birds!!!

The last one is Zygaena filipendulae, the others are Z. lonicerae.
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16.01.2008 19:11, slipknofill

Tersite, not listed in the Ministry of Defense --


Dear Vladimir, where can I find this list, otherwise I really need it!!! shuffle.gif

16.01.2008 19:47, Vlad Proklov

Dear Vladimir, where can I find this list, otherwise I really need it!!! shuffle.gif

I'll give you a detailed answer.

In 1976, the Moscow collector MI Sirotkin (in the world, by the way, he was an officer of the SVR - who only among entomologists do not meet smile.gif) I made a list from my own collection, collections of his friends and museum materials on "macrochesoptera" of the Moscow and Kaluga regions:

Sirotkin M. I. 1976. Lepidoptera (Macrolepidoptera) Moscow and Kaluga regions. M. 167s. [Manuscript, dep. in VINITI, No. 3815-76].

This is the basic summary, which, however, was not officially published, but was deposited in the VINITI where it can still be ordered and purchased, as well as other deposited works.

In 1982, he also made the first supplement to it:

Sirotkin M. I. 1982. Lepidoptera (Macrolepidoptera) Moscow and Kaluga regions of the RSFSR. I-th supplement (for 1975-1981 incl.). Moscow, 18 p. [Manuscript, dep. in VINITI, No. 2545-82].

And in 1986, he did publish an extract in the Entomological Review-a list of these works, in which many specific data of finds are missing:

Sirotkin M. I. List of lepidoptera (Macrolepidoptera) Moscow and Kaluga regions // Entomological review. 1986. Vol. 65, issue no. 2. pp. 318-358.

There are scans of this article on the Internet right here.

And in 2000, L. N. Solntsev compiled the second supplement:

Solntsev L. N. 2000. Lepidoptera (Macrolepidoptera) Moscow and Kaluga regions. II-e supplement (for 1982-1999, incl.). Moscow, 18 p. [Manuscript, dep. in VINITI, No. 1460-B00].

It's on the Internet here.

Since then, there have only been short reports on individual species found.

I would like to draw your attention to the fact that the names in these lists are completely old and unusable at the present time. Synonymy will help you find out the almighty Google smile.gif

This post was edited by kotbegemot - 16.01.2008 19: 53
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16.01.2008 20:21, slipknofill

Many thanks Vladimir for the detailed answer!!! wink.gif

16.01.2008 20:43, slipknofill

Please identify these cute butterflies! The second one, in my opinion, is similar in shape to Calothysanis amata L., but I haven't seen it in books!!!!!

1.picture: ___________________01.jpg

2.picture: _______________3.jpg

3.picture: _______________11.jpg

4.picture: _______________14.jpg

16.01.2008 20:55, Konung

Slipknofill:
1 - Hyponephele lycaon (Rottemburg, 1775)
4 - Xanthorhoe ferrugata (Clerck, 1759)
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16.01.2008 20:59, Vlad Proklov

Many thanks Vladimir for the detailed answer!!! wink.gif

I, actually, Vlad - as Leaves, well, it's not scary smile.gif

Please identify these cute butterflies! The second one, in my opinion, is similar in shape to Calothysanis amata L., but I haven't seen it in books!!!!!

It looks like this:
1 - ?Hyponephele lycaon
2 - Scopula nigropunctata
3 - Notocelia cynosbatella
4 - Xanthorhoe quadrifasciata
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16.01.2008 21:01, Vlad Proklov

Slipknofill:
4 - Xanthorhoe ferrugata (Clerck, 1759)

Still, in my opinion, quadrifasciata is more like...
They are both common in MO.
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16.01.2008 21:07, slipknofill

I, actually, Vlad - as Leaves, well, it's not scary smile.gif


I apologize!!!! shuffle.gif
And thank you for your reply!!!!

16.01.2008 21:08, Vlad Proklov

I apologize!!!! shuffle.gif
And thank you for your reply!!!!

Ah, bullshit smile.gif

16.01.2008 22:28, slipknofill

Can you still put caterpillars in this section? And then they don't want to define it there! They are silent!!! frown.gif weep.gif

The same people are watching the same topic smile.gif

This post was edited by Bolivar - 16.01.2008 23: 18

17.01.2008 5:12, Konung

17.01.2008 9:37, bials

The last one is Zygaena filipendulae, the others are Z. lonicerae.

And how did you determine from the photo that this is Z. lonicerae not Z. trifolii (just wondering)? wink.gif

17.01.2008 14:30, Vlad Proklov

And how did you determine from the photo that this is Z. lonicerae not Z. trifolii (just wondering)? wink.gif

And all indications of Z. trifolii for Russia are wrong, as K. A. Efetov found out-this is a Western European spring species, which probably exists in the Kaliningrad region.

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