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Identification of Lepidoptera (Butterflies and Moths)

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02.08.2018 16:37, usiaz

Hello! Is it possible to determine the type of butterfly from the image? Is this Pieris brassicae?
Raznotravye (synanthropic community).
Time and place of shooting: Yekaterinburg, 2018-06-01 17: 30: 00

This post was edited by usiaz-04.08.2018 15: 29

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02.08.2018 17:17, MIV

  
22-Cucullia propinqua, (you have a similar Cucullia scopariae in your area, you can search)


Is that them?

1. Cucullia propinqua ? - Ocd. Krasnoyarsk, forest-steppe, to the light. 18.06.15.
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2. Cucullia scopariae ? - Ocd. Krasnoyarsk, forest-steppe, to the light. 16.07.16.
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02.08.2018 17:59, MIV

Experts of the Far Eastern fauna, please tell me the type of this scoop.
Span of 30 mm-Primorskiy kr., Khasansky district, Barabash. 5.07.07.

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03.08.2018 2:08, vidjl

Is that them?

1. Cucullia propinqua ? - Ocd. Krasnoyarsk, forest-steppe, to the light. 18.06.15.
 
2. Cucullia scopariae ? - Ocd. Krasnoyarsk, forest-steppe, to the light. 16.07.16.
 

Yes, that's right!
Experts of the Far Eastern fauna, please tell me the type of this scoop.
Span of 30 mm-Primorskiy kr., Khasansky district, Barabash. 5.07.07.

Mythimna radiata
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03.08.2018 5:28, ярослав

Help me determine the catocal.Orenburg Region, 28.07.2018

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03.08.2018 14:35, Konung

Help me determine the catocal.Orenburg Region, 28.07.2018

Catocala helena I think. just what is she doing in Orenburg region?
in what biotope was it collected? one instance or several?

This post was edited by Konung-03.08.2018 14: 35

03.08.2018 15:47, vidjl

Skidding most likely, a caterpillar or pupa was delivered.

03.08.2018 17:37, staphyl

Good evening dear forumchane. Help me determine it.
Armenia, Kafan, near the Artsvanik tailings dump, 13.07.2018

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03.08.2018 17:38, ярослав

Catocala helena I think. just what is she doing in Orenburg region?
in what biotope was it collected? one instance or several?

I'm in shock myself.There were several of them and the biotope was a floodplain meadow near the river.Caught on a tree in the shade resting like all katokals.

03.08.2018 17:43, Konung

I'm in shock myself.There were several of them and the biotope was a floodplain meadow near the river.Caught on a tree in the shade resting like all katokals.

However! What kind of trees grow there?

03.08.2018 17:44, ярослав

Skidding most likely, a caterpillar or pupa was delivered.

And why suddenly skidding?So we have them here in the 17th region.

03.08.2018 17:46, ярослав

However! What kind of trees grow there?

Maple, willow, birch, poplar, elm, etc.

03.08.2018 17:50, Konung

And why suddenly skidding?So we have them here in the 17th region.

The thing is, they shouldn't be there))

03.08.2018 17:51, Konung

Maple,willow, birch, poplar, elm, etc.

Dr. What are these??

03.08.2018 18:13, ярослав

Dr. What are these??

Well, I wasn't paying much attention.There are very old trees with thick trunks,very thick ones.In general, these are soldered forests in lowlands, sometimes flooded in spring when flooding occurs.

03.08.2018 18:54, MIV

I understand that with Euxo'mi difficult, but still...

1. Krasnoyarsk (city limits), on the light. 9.07.18.
Span kr. - 30 mm

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2. Some kind of scoop? The same in the city on the light flew 9.07.18.
Span kr. - 23 mm

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03.08.2018 19:22, Konung

Well, I wasn't paying much attention.There are very old trees with thick trunks,very thick ones.In general, these are soldered forests in lowlands, sometimes flooded in spring when flooding occurs.

maybe elms/oaks/etc. are there? will you be in those places soon? firstly, to clarify the breed composition of the stand, and secondly, maybe they are still flying and it will be possible to catch a few more specimens in order to speak more or less confidently about any population. in general, what is there-an exclusively wild biotope, or is there something anthropogenic nearby? for example, gardens, dachas, parks, villages, etc.?

This post was edited by Konung-03.08.2018 19: 39

03.08.2018 19:32, Konung

I understand that with Euxo'mi difficult, but still...

1. Krasnoyarsk (city limits), on the light. 9.07.18.
Span kr. - 30 mm



2. Some kind of scoop? The same in the city on the light flew 9.07.18.
Span kr. - 23 mm


1. Euxoa something like nigrofusca
2. Chilodes distracta
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03.08.2018 19:39, ярослав

maybe there are elms there? will you be in those places soon? firstly, to clarify the breed composition of the stand, and secondly, maybe they are still flying and it will be possible to catch a few more specimens in order to speak more or less confidently about any population. in general, what is there-an exclusively wild biotope, or is there something anthropogenic nearby? for example, gardens, dachas, parks, villages, etc.?

I'll be there in 2 days.In general, there are gardens and cottages and a village nearby.I myself am interested in going through there and catching a few more copies.

03.08.2018 19:45, ярослав

I'll be there in 2 days.In general, there are gardens and cottages and a village nearby.I myself am interested in going there and catching a few more copies.

And then the small-leaved elm and the squat elm are the elm I mentioned.

03.08.2018 19:55, Vlad Proklov

I'll be there in 2 days.In general, there are gardens and cottages and a village nearby.I myself am interested in going there and catching a few more copies.

Can you tell me your exact location?" You can send it to your personal account (I need to put a point on the map).

03.08.2018 20:05, vidjl

And why suddenly skidding?So we have them here in the 17th region.

Because the nearest regions where it occurs are Transbaikalia, Primorye, Korea, Mongolia, and here again, the Orenburg region! The question arises, why such a torn area suddenly. This usually happens when, along with something, a pupa or caterpillar is accidentally imported from the habitat at the pupation stage, which in a new place safely pupates and a butterfly comes out, and you catch it, for example. smile.gif
And then the small-leaved elm and the squat elm are the elm I mentioned.

See what fruit trees are there, too.
I'm in shock myself.There were several of them and the biotope was a floodplain meadow near the river.Caught on a tree in the shade resting like all katokals.

Maybe she was alone, and the others are other species of this genus, just flew together? Try catching more.
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03.08.2018 20:38, Kharkovbut

Still P5180046-male Polyommatus amandus
And quite-quite still it is Cyaniris semiargus ... smile.gif
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03.08.2018 20:40, Kharkovbut

1-4-Polyommatus icarus
5-seen flying female Lycaena tityrus
P5180071.JPG -- rather P. thersites.
P5180107.JPG -- rather Plebejus sp.
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03.08.2018 20:44, Kharkovbut


3 - Colias hyale
4 - Pyrgus alveus

Vidjl, your confidence is amazing. After all, many people take this as the ultimate truth. Imho at best we can say "Colias sp." (very unlikely exactly C. hyale!) and "Pyrgus sp."

03.08.2018 21:39, vidjl

And quite-quite all the same it is Cyaniris semiargus... smile.gif



P5180071.JPG -- rather P. thersites.
P5180107.JPG -- rather Plebejus sp.

Where were you when I was in doubt smile.gif
According to photos from nature, I don't really like to identify pigeons, but the person asked in the personal account, thank you for correcting me.
(very unlikely to be C. hyale!) and " Pyrgus sp."

Let it be sp. according to you, but I still think that C. hyale, and P. alveus, comparing (according to this not very successful angle of course) and analyzing the list of what lives there, this is my definition, my point of view.
If you don't agree, let the ultimate truth speak through your mouth. smile.gif
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03.08.2018 22:11, Kharkovbut

Where were you when I was in doubt smile.gif
According to photos from nature, I don't really like to identify pigeons, but the person asked in the personal account, thank you for correcting me.

Let it be sp. according to you, but I still think that C. hyale, and P. alveus, comparing (according to this not very successful angle of course) and analyzing the list of what lives there, this is my definition, my point of view.
If you don't agree, let the ultimate truth speak through your mouth. smile.gif
I was in the fields. smile.gif You don't like to define pigeons-why do you define them? Maybe it's more natural to act on the principle of "less is better, but better"?

As for kolias and pyrgus, of course, everyone has the right to a point of view, but it seems to me that it is better to be cautious (or not to define at all!) if clear signs are not visible, and the definition is based on intuition and something subjective. At least, it seems to me that in this case it ("in my opinion, ...") is worth mentioning, so as not to mislead people.
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03.08.2018 23:02, Nemov

Kharkovbut, you are the first person in my memory who correctly reacted to this orgy of "definitions".
Or better: if you don't know , you don't have to "do it my way", there's no need to guess on coffee grounds

This post was edited by Nemov - 03.08.2018 23: 03

04.08.2018 0:58, vidjl

I was in the fields. smile.gif You don't like to define pigeons-why do you define them? Maybe it's more natural to act on the principle of "less is better, but better"?

As for kolias and pyrgus, of course, everyone has the right to a point of view, but it seems to me that it is better to be cautious (or not to define at all!) if clear signs are not visible, and the definition is based on intuition and something subjective. At least, it seems to me that in this case it ("in my opinion, ...") is worth mentioning, so as not to mislead people.

I agree, I agree with you, I respect the wisdom of older people! After all, you will be 100 years old next year, and what am I, I'm young, I haven't even lived up to fifty shuffle.gifdollars yet

04.08.2018 4:01, Konung

Because the nearest regions where it occurs are Transbaikalia, Primorye, Korea, Mongolia, and here again, the Orenburg region!

There are also finds in the Baikal region. But it's still a long way to Orenburg region)
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04.08.2018 8:23, гук

I agree, I agree with you, I respect the wisdom of older people! After all, you will be 100 years old next year, and what am I, I'm young, I haven't even reached fifty pupaars yet shuffle.gif

You don't have to be naughty at all! You were given a very fair comment in a very polite way. But this is still the Internet, they could have done it here...

04.08.2018 12:31, Zum-Graat

Overnight guests found in the house. Moscow region, August 4.
1) user posted image 2) user posted image

04.08.2018 13:54, vidjl

You don't have to be naughty at all! You were given a very fair comment in a very polite way. But this is still the Internet, they could have done it here...

Let's talk about the definition of butterflies, because that's what it's called....

This post was edited by vidjl-04.08.2018 13: 54

04.08.2018 13:57, vidjl

Overnight guests found in the house. Moscow region, August 4.

2 - Scoliopteryx libatrix
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04.08.2018 17:52, IgorKO

Please tell me the scoop. 31.07.18. Zhytomyr, on the light, in the garden. Perhaps from Hadenid?

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04.08.2018 19:42, vidjl

Please tell me the scoop. 31.07.18. Zhytomyr, on the light, in the garden. Perhaps from Hadenid?

Hada plebeja - on the right, and the left is most likely also, more shabby just.

This post was edited by vidjl-04.08.2018 20: 29

04.08.2018 20:55, Oleg Nikolsky

Dear connoisseurs of butterflies, what is it on the wall of the house? Bryansk, August 1.
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04.08.2018 21:00, vidjl

Dear connoisseurs of butterflies, what is it on the wall of the house? Bryansk, August 1.

Clostera anastomosis
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04.08.2018 21:11, RoPro

Will you be able to identify such a shabby one ? Worried, perhaps ? Moscow region (Vnukovo railway station). 04.08.2018.

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04.08.2018 22:03, chebur

Will you be able to identify such a shabby one ? Worried, perhaps ? Moscow region (Vnukovo railway station). 04.08.2018.

I believe it is a male Lymantria monacha (Linnaeus, 1758). The view is very variable. If you look closely at the photo, for example, on the site lepiforum.de, then you can find almost the same color, but, of course, they are not so flown there.

This post was edited by chebur - 04.08.2018 22: 09
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