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Definition of ground beetles of the genus Carabus

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06.02.2009 10:00, Aleksandr Safronov

Can someone deal with Coptolabruses from China?

Dear Liparus, you must specify localities.
For now, just like this:
04_001 Carabus (Coptolabrus) smaragdinus ssp.
04_005 Carabus (Coptolabrus) principalis Bates 1889
04_008 Carabus (Coptolabrus) smaragdinus ssp.
04_010 Carabus (Coptolabrus) augustus ssp. (similar to the nominative).

06.02.2009 10:14, Aleksandr Safronov

Kharkiv region, in the garden

Carabus (Megodontus) violaceus ssp. ssp is possible. andrzejuscii Fischer, 1823. More precisely, it will say rpanin. And where in the Kharkiv region? It's big.

06.02.2009 10:23, rpanin

Carabus (Megodontus) violaceus ssp. ssp is possible. andrzejuscii Fischer, 1823. More precisely, it will say rpanin. And where in the Kharkiv region? It's big.

Most likely violaceus ssp. aurolimbatus Dejean, 1829

And the subspecies andrzejuscii still needs to be thoroughly understood. Get beetles from a typical place on the territory of the Volyn upland.
Instructions for tarpaulins of this subspecies for Russia, which are clearly outdated today. And they belong to a century ago, when the Volhynia province and the adjacent part of today's Poland were part of the Russian Empire.

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06.02.2009 11:00, Aleksandr Safronov

Most likely violaceus ssp. aurolimbatus Dejean, 1829

Ruslan, I had an idea about aurolimbatus. It can be seen that the beetle is not large. The sacred sculpture is similar. But the border is kind of unreal.

06.02.2009 11:28, rpanin

Ruslan, I had an idea about aurolimbatus. It can be seen that the beetle is not large. The sacred sculpture is similar. But the border is kind of unreal.

I can't say with 100% certainty that the subspecies aurolimbatus is located in the Kharkiv region ,as it is supposed to be the border of its range there . It is necessary to compare it with standard material at the genital level.

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06.02.2009 11:33, Aleksandr Safronov

Ruslan, another question for you. How do you think the border of the C. violaceus nominative runs in Ukraine? I have specimens from Zhytomyr region (Radomyshl district, mixed forest), though all females. Habitually nominative form. And are there any transitional forms of this taxon?

This post was edited by Entalex - 06.02.2009 11: 34

06.02.2009 11:53, rpanin

Ruslan, another question for you. How do you think the border of the C. violaceus nominative runs in Ukraine? I have specimens from Zhytomyr region (Radomyshl district, mixed forest), though all females. Habitually nominative form. And are there any transitional forms of this taxon?

I also have beetles from there. Nominative, or near-nominative form.
But the steppes, which I still classify as wolffi, have something from aurolimbatus. Possibly a transitional form.The question is still open .We will study this issue more closely next season.
Actually, there are a lot of subspecies described for C. violaceus, but my opinion is that all this is garbage, there are a couple or two strong subspecies, and the rest is so far-fetched.

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06.02.2009 12:02, Aleksandr Safronov

Yes, C. violaceus is in trouble. The view is certainly polymorphic, but ponaopisyvali horseradish knows what. I am also very interested in the question-are there any differences between the lowland and mountain forms of aurolimbatus? Maybe there were articles on this topic?

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06.02.2009 12:06, rpanin

Yes, C. violaceus is in trouble. The view is certainly polymorphic, but ponaopisyvali horseradish knows what. I am also very interested in the question-are there any differences between the lowland and mountain forms of aurolimbatus? Maybe there were articles on this topic?

I fully support it. I am also very interested in this question.

06.02.2009 12:40, RippeR

I also found it similar to aurolimbatus

06.02.2009 23:33, Liparus

It also looked like aurolimbatus to me

Thanks for the definition!In general, I plan to catch 10 pairs for myself this year in the garden.By the way I once overexposed the female in the desiccator so the color changed to green instead of purple

07.02.2009 11:51, rpanin

Thanks for the definition!In general, I plan to catch 10 pairs for myself this year in the garden.By the way I once overexposed the female in the desiccator so the color changed to green instead of purple

Bleach water from the tap.

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08.02.2009 12:07, Liparus

Please tell me what subspecies of Carabus (Megodontus) gyllenhali is found in the Crimea.
And also the Kharkiv Chancery House

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08.02.2009 13:29, RippeR

Gyllenhaal is endemic to the Crimea and does not form subspecies..

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08.02.2009 19:32, Liparus

Gyllenhaal is endemic to the Crimea and does not form subspecies..

They say it's normal?I'm just a dozen going to glue on large dies.

08.02.2009 20:24, RippeR

They say ordinary, in many places mass

08.02.2009 22:13, Guest

they say the usual, in many places mass

Angarsk preval, 5 traps, three nights - about 50 pcs.

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08.02.2009 23:38, Guest

Not just massive, but super-massive and overpowering! It has displaced all other species of carabus in the pine forest zone along the south coast of Crimea and exists in "proud solitude". From the label: ocd. Yalta, near the lake. Karagol. 9 traps with an alcohol-vinegar-glycerin mixture: 267 ext. Who is bigger?

08.02.2009 23:39, Guest

this is for 4 nights

09.02.2009 10:04, omar

Gyllenhali is also available in Turkey

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09.02.2009 10:15, Guest

Then it's probably a different subspecies. Which one, can you tell me? And it would be better to have a photo.

09.02.2009 11:57, Aleksandr Safronov

gyllenhali is also available in Turkey

omar, if this is not a joke - in which region of Turkey is it found? And when?

09.02.2009 12:14, omar

Maybe I was wrong... It was like reading in Kryzhanovsky's book on zoogeography. Maybe my memory isn't the same anymore... And where else is it?

09.02.2009 13:02, Aleksandr Safronov

Maybe I was wrong... It was like reading in Kryzhanovsky's book on zoogeography. Maybe my memory isn't the same anymore... And where else is it?

Yes, like nowhere. It is endemic to the Crimea.

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12.02.2009 0:51, Liparus

Help me determine
1,2)Kharkov:Kominternovsky district
3, 4) Kharkiv:Forest Park

12.02.2009 1:48, rpanin

Help me determine
1,2)Kharkov:Kominternovsky district
3, 4) Kharkiv:Forest Park

Carabus (Trachycarabus) haeres (?sibiricus) ssp. fossulatus Dejean, 1826
Carabus (Archicarabus) nemoralis Mueller, 1764
for the first image, just in case, specify the size.

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12.02.2009 1:54, rpanin

In turn, I will also ask for help
from Kazakhstan, the Big Almaatinsky Lake .
16мм
Carabus (Ophiocarabus) aeneolus A.Morawitz, 1886 ?

This post was edited by rpanin - 12.02.2009 11: 52

Pictures:
картинка: Carabus__Ophiocarabus__aeneolus_A.Morawitz__1886.jpg

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12.02.2009 13:15, Buzman

Please tell me what subspecies of these species live on Sakhalin?

Carabus (Leptocarabus) arboreus Lewis, 1882. Only exarboreus (Ishikawa, 1992)?
Carabus (Aulonocarabus) kurilensis Lapouge, 1913
Carabus granulatus Linnaeus, 1758. Only yezoensis H. Bates, 1883?

Thank you very much in advance!

12.02.2009 13:26, RippeR

arboreus is a subspecies of exarboreus exactly.
kurilensis pseudodiamesus exactly and nominative like also
yezoensis exactly..
I don't know about the others )

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12.02.2009 13:43, Buzman

Thank you, so you will have to send photos

12.02.2009 18:42, Mylabris

To rpanin: yes, eneolus.

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13.02.2009 11:20, Cerega

Please tell me what subspecies of these species live on Sakhalin?

Carabus (Leptocarabus) arboreus Lewis, 1882. Only exarboreus (Ishikawa, 1992)?
Carabus (Aulonocarabus) kurilensis Lapouge, 1913
Carabus granulatus Linnaeus, 1758. Only yezoensis H. Bates, 1883?

Thank you very much in advance!

With the first, so far unambiguously,
With the second one you need to look at the point, but the case with canaliculatus is muddy,and no one really understood them.
With the third, according to the dominant dogma, it is

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13.02.2009 11:53, Buzman

Thank you, Cerega! If this helps clarify the situation, then kurilensis is from Mount Chekhov.

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13.02.2009 12:32, Cerega

Then et yug, then kurilensis, and collectors who write in PM.

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17.02.2009 22:25, Vitalin

Is it possible to identify a ground beetle from this photo? It was a little dark. Collected on Lake Baikal. Listvyanka, Irkutsk region. 8.07.2007

Pictures:
picture: 021a.jpg

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17.02.2009 22:52, Dorcadion

Most likely C. (Morphocarabus) spasskianus, although it may also be aeruginosus....

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17.02.2009 22:59, RippeR

Possible names:
spasskianus aeruginosiformis
spasskianus putus
aeruginosus

judging by the pronotum and rows on the elytra, this is still eruginosus, but I will not be able to say

17.02.2009 23:03, RippeR

Dorcadion was faster

in general, it may be spasskianus.. I can't decide for sure.. Let's wait for more kamentov

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17.02.2009 23:24, Vitalin

Thanks to Dorcadion i RipperR for the help. Can you suggest any signs to distinguish between spasskianus aeruginosiformis, spasskianus putus, aeruginosus? I have a series of this kind.

17.02.2009 23:54, RippeR

I won't say for sure, but as far as I know, spasskianus has a smooth pronotum, and eruginosus has a dotted one. But as far as I looked at the photos, spasskianus eruginosiformis also does not have a smooth perdnespinka..

you can also look at the posterior edge of the pronotum, it looks like eruginosus has it even, i.e. without indentation, and spasskianus has an indentation near the posterior edge..
You can also level the rows of nakdryli.

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