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Definition of ground beetles of the genus Carabus

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24.11.2009 12:37, vasiliy-feoktistov

Does it look like C. hortensis? But the Far East!!!

24.11.2009 12:42, Guest

Please tell me.

Far East, Amur region, Arkhardarsky (? Arkhardarinsky) district, 24.07.1984
Length 24 mm.

Carabus Diocarabus aurocinctus
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24.11.2009 13:00, Victor Titov

Does it look like C. hortensis?

Come on, Vasily! I wasn't lying around! If it does remind you of a tiger, it's like a leopard, no more!
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25.11.2009 14:01, Buzman

Carabus Diocarabus aurocinctus

Thanks for the tip! But I still have big doubts. In my opinion, this is some subspecies of Carabus (Morphocarabus) hummeli Fischer, 1823

25.11.2009 14:12, Aleksandr Safronov

Thanks for the tip! But I still have big doubts. In my opinion, this is a subspecies of Carabus (Morphocarabus) hummeli Fischer, 1823

Of course, this is Carabus (Morphocarabus) hummeli Fischer, 1823.
By Brzezinski - ssp. smaragdulus Kraatz, 1878.
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25.11.2009 19:30, RippeR

How can it be hummel? He has golden pits.. I haven't seen this in any morphocarabus, not even in my SSPs. pusongensis

http://www.zin.ru/Animalia/coleoptera/rus/carhumso.htm
http://www.zin.ru/Animalia/coleoptera/rus/carab046.htm
in my opinion, nothing in common..

Maybe some aulonocarbus? But hardly..

This post was edited by RippeR - 11/25/2009 19: 42

25.11.2009 20:19, rpanin

How can it be hummel? He has golden pits.. I haven't seen this in any morphocarabus, not even in my SSPs. pusongensis

http://www.zin.ru/Animalia/coleoptera/rus/carhumso.htm
http://www.zin.ru/Animalia/coleoptera/rus/carab046.htm
in my opinion, nothing in common..

Maybe some aulonocarbus? But hardly..


This is Morphocarabus! There are a lot of variations.
And here are the golden pits for you.
http://www.carabidae.ru/foto/displayimage....lbum=61&pos=909

Usually, the most typical version is selected for the photo. We don't see the rest of the series with different variations.
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25.11.2009 21:59, RippeR

I haven't seen it before ))

26.11.2009 9:56, Aleksandr Safronov

How can it be hummel? He has golden pits.. I haven't seen this in any morphocarabus, not even in my SSPs. pusongensis

For complete happiness - a nominative with golden pits. wink.gif

Pictures:
picture: C_hummeli_hummeli_m.jpg
C_hummeli_hummeli_m.jpg — (82.66к)

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27.11.2009 18:53, Shtil

I finally got to my rubble. Please help with the definition.
First of all, trachycarabuses:

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1. 07-10 07. 2001. Ukraine. Donetsk region.Volodarsky district Volodarskoe forestry.

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2. 24. 07. 2006. Ukraine. Volodarsky district Stone Graves Nature Reserve

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3. 04. 05. 2002. Ukraine. Crimea. Alushta. the village of Izobilnoye.

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4. 04. 07. 2008. Ukraine. Crimea. Chatyr-Dag. A sub-page. Eklizi-Burun.

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5. ??? Ukraine Donetsk region ???

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6. ??? Ukraine Donetsk region ???

27.11.2009 18:59, Shtil

and all sorts of exotic things

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7. 27. 05. 1995. Kyrgyzstan. District of Bishkek. Kara-Balta.

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8. 24. 05. 1998. Киргизстан. окр. Бишкека. Chon-Aryk. h-1100 m.

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9. 28. 06. 2004. Azerbaijan. Talysh district. Kalvaz. h-1700 m.

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10. 06. 06. 1998. Kyrgyzstan. Tian Shan. Sandalashsky district 30 km. south of Yandi Bazaar h-2000 m.

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11. ????????????

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12. ?????? Far East

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13. 07. 1991. Sakhalin. G. Chekhov.

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14. 24. 05. 1998 Киргизстан. окр. Бишкека. Chon-Aryk. h-1100 м.

27.11.2009 19:03, Bad Den

and all sorts of exotic things

7. 27. 05. 1995. Kyrgyzstan. District of Bishkek. Kara-Balta.

C. ? carbonicolor

27.11.2009 19:34, rpanin

I finally got to my rubble. Please help with the definition.
First of all, trachycarabuses:


1. 07-10 07. 2001. Ukraine. Donetsk region.Volodarsky district Volodarskoe forestry.
2. 24. 07. 2006. Ukraine. Volodarsky district Reserve "Stone graves"
If not more than 23 mm, then Carabus (Trachycarabus) scabriusculus If larger - errans

3. 04. 05. 2002. Ukraine. Crimea. Alushta. the village of Izobilnoye.
4. 04. 07. 2008. Ukraine. Crimea. Chatyr-Dag. A sub-page. Eklizi-Burun.
Carabus (Trachycarabus) perrini perrini Dejean 1831


5. ??? Ukraine Donetsk region ???
Carabus (Trachycarabus) sibiricus errans Fischer von Waldheim 1823 (100%)
6. ??? Ukraine Donetsk region???
? Carabus (Trachycarabus) scabriusculus again, if the size is suitable. sibiricus errans is usually larger than 24-30 mm


This post was edited by rpanin - 27.11.2009 20: 08

27.11.2009 19:38, rpanin

9. 28. 06. 2004. Azerbaijan. Talysh district. Kalvaz. h-1700 m.
Carabus (Sphodristocarabus) bohemani bohemani Menetries, 1832

7. 27. 05. 1995. Kyrgyzstan. District of Bishkek. Kara-Balta.
?Carabus (Semnocarabus) carbonicolor korolkowi Semenov, 1896

This post was edited by rpanin - 27.11.2009 19: 40

28.11.2009 3:51, Guest

13. 07. 1991. Sakhalin city of Chekhov-Carabus Ainocarabus avinovi.

28.11.2009 4:18, RippeR

1, and it also looks like 2 and 6-scabriusculus
3,4-estreicheri
5-probably ?haeres

8-the same semnokarabus, maybe the same some kind of carbonicolor..
12-apparently hummeli ssp.

28.11.2009 15:01, rpanin

1, and it also looks like 2 and 6-scabriusculus
3,4-estreicheri
5-probably ?haeres


M-yes, Andryukha is a force!!! tongue.gif
Where in the Crimea estreicheri seen ?!
5-probably ?haeres -If I write 100% sibiricus errans, then so it is.

28.11.2009 15:05, Shtil

Thank you so much for your help!

Another question: how does scabrisculus differ from haeres?

This post was edited by Shtil-28.11.2009 15: 05

28.11.2009 15:07, Frantic

11. ???????????? - Carabus (Cratocechenus) akinini, possibly-puellus.

28.11.2009 15:21, rpanin

Thank you so much for your help!

Another question: how does scabrisculus differ from haeres?


haeres -larger, wider, oval-shaped elytra . In the genus fossulatus Dejean, 1826, the fossae are deeper and wider in the primary spaces, and sometimes run together in an irregular row.The color is black. In scabrisculus - sometimes with a bronze sheen.
! In general, it is better to specify the size. The chance of correct detection increases significantly.

This post was edited by rpanin - 28.11.2009 15: 26

28.11.2009 21:07, RippeR

M-yes, Andryukha is a force!!! tongue.gif
Where in the Crimea estreicheri seen ?!
5-probably ?haeres -If I write 100% sibiricus errans, then so it is.


this is how I read posts lol.gifI didn't guess lol.gifanything
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30.11.2009 21:07, I.solod

Please tell me.

Far East, Amur region, Arkhardarsky (? Arkhardarinsky) district, 24.07.1984
Length 24 mm.


Strange beetle, revised material, almost indistinguishable from the island subspecies hummeli ssp. nevelskii Shilenkov, 1996 S-Sakhalin(Kril'on Peninsula:Kirilovo); C-Sakhalin checked the photo of the typical material, and on the Zinovsky site one - on-one, and the fact that the series is at home. Only strange is its presence on the mainland-maybe a drift, or maybe there is a local population of it.

30.11.2009 22:49, rpanin

Strange beetle, revised material, almost indistinguishable from the island subspecies hummeli ssp. nevelskii Shilenkov, 1996 S-Sakhalin(Kril'on Peninsula:Kirilovo); C-Sakhalin checked the photo of the typical material, and on the Zinovsky site one - on-one, and the fact that the series is at home. Only strange is its presence on the mainland-maybe a drift, or maybe there is a local population of it.

Or maybe the label is a mess confused.gif

01.12.2009 9:27, Guest

Or maybe the label is a mess confused.gif

most likely.

01.12.2009 12:02, Aleksandr Safronov

10. Carabus (Cyclocarabus) sp. (similar to aulacocnemus ssp. martynovi Semenov & Znojko, 1932)
14. Carabus (Cratocephalus) - or cicatricosus Fischer, 1842, and most likely corrugis Dohrn, 1882.

14.12.2009 11:35, vasiliy-feoktistov

The male of a rather large caribou is L=32mm.
Caucasus, Chechnya, Terskoe village, June 1985.
Please help me identify it.

Pictures:
picture: PC142125.jpg
PC142125.jpg — (86.46к)

14.12.2009 11:49, Victor Titov

The male of a rather large caribou is L=32mm.
Caucasus, Chechnya, Terskoe village, June 1985.
Please help me identify it.

In my opinion, Carabus (Megodontus) septemcarinatus Motschulsky, 1840.
But I would wait for true experts of the genus Carabus...
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14.12.2009 12:02, Dorcadion

I would say exaratus, septemcarinatus lives on the Black Sea coast...
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14.12.2009 12:21, vasiliy-feoktistov

Thanks! But this one? Cancellatus? L=24mm.
Ryazan region roc. Kadom June 1986goda.
Also, please help me determine.

Pictures:
picture: PC142130.jpg
PC142130.jpg — (85.66к)

14.12.2009 12:38, Victor Titov

Thanks! But this one? Cancellatus? L=24mm.
Ryazan region roc. Kadom June 1986goda.
Also, please help me determine.

Isn't it a Carabus arvensis?
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14.12.2009 12:54, vasiliy-feoktistov

Isn't it a Carabus arvensis?

Most likely you are right.
C. arvensis and C. arcensis are different species?
Photo of a beetle that I identified as C. arcensis:

Pictures:
picture: Carabus_arcensis.jpg
Carabus_arcensis.jpg — (87.75к)

14.12.2009 13:50, Victor Titov

Most likely you are right.
C. arvensis and C. arcensis are different species?
Photo of a beetle that I identified as C. arcensis:

arvensis and arcensis are synonyms.
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14.12.2009 13:53, vasiliy-feoktistov

arvensis and arcensis are synonyms.

I think so too, but the beetles in the photo are different.

14.12.2009 15:27, I.solod

The male of a rather large caribou is L=32mm.
Caucasus, Chechnya, Terskoe village, June 1985.
Please help me identify it.


By all signs , it is not strange, but it looks like Carabus (Meg.) septemcarinatus in C exaratus has a different appearance, and they differ in genitals. The locale is unusual, because this species, as Dima correctly noted, is typical of the Coastal territories. Right now I don't remember what Yablokov-Khnzorian wrote about it (whether it exists in Armenia, but he considered it in his monograph as a subspecies of exaratus). In Georgia, it is distributed quite widely, it seems from memory that I have a copy of Lagodeh, then it easily penetrates into Chechen
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14.12.2009 15:44, Aleksandr Safronov

I think so too, but the beetles in the photo are different.

Do you have anything wrong with the labels? PC142130-strongly resembles Carabus (Parhomopterus) billbergi Mannerheim, 1827. Only it is found on DV. wink.gif
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14.12.2009 15:46, Aleksandr Safronov

By all signs , it is not strange, but it looks like Carabus (Meg.) septemcarinatus in C exaratus has a different appearance, and they differ in genitals. The locale is unusual, because this species, as Dima correctly noted, is typical of the Coastal territories. Right now I don't remember what Yablokov-Khnzorian wrote about it (whether it exists in Armenia, but he considered it in his monograph as a subspecies of exaratus). It is quite widespread in Georgia, it seems from memory I have a copy of Lagodeh, then it easily penetrates into Chechnya

Just about, and in my opinion, habitually-C. septemcarinatus.
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14.12.2009 15:51, Dorcadion

Yes, the label is clearly confused, it may well be the Caucasian counterpart of bilbergi-E. cumanus
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14.12.2009 15:57, RippeR

what's wrong with cumanus? 0_о
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14.12.2009 16:10, vasiliy-feoktistov

Do you have anything wrong with the labels? PC142130-strongly resembles Carabus (Parhomopterus) billbergi Mannerheim, 1827. Only it is found in the Far East. wink.gif

It can be confused easily (I wrote from the words of a long time ago).
P.S. But the second one I caught myself and it is much smaller than the first one.

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 12/14/2009 16: 12

14.12.2009 16:25, Aleksandr Safronov

It can be confused easily (I wrote from the words of a long time ago).
P.S. But the second one I caught myself and it is much smaller than the first one.

Well, the second one is the real Carabus (s. str.) arvensis arvensis Herbst, 1784.
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