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27.07.2011 20:49, EcoLog

Don't be so pedantic when creating a collection. The main thing is that it is practical, compact, and neat.
The point of spreading is to give the insect an acceptable condition for its subsequent long-term storage as a museum sample. And everything else is for your perverted taste.

27.07.2011 21:17, vasiliy-feoktistov

Yes, I also used to not bend my mustache until recently, but now I'm puzzled.
Corny space is not enough: I transfer a little. It is better to immediately bend all the same so as not to worry later.
S. carcharias (same beetle):
A year ago
And now:

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28.07.2011 8:00, PWM

Don't be so pedantic when creating a collection. The main thing is that it is practical, compact, and neat.
The point of spreading is to give the insect an acceptable condition for its subsequent long-term storage as a museum sample. And everything else is just for your perverted taste.

Yes, this is understandable, but I want symmetry... shtob is not only useful, but also beautiful. smile.gif I saw on the forum very high-quality and symmetrically straightened beetles. I haven't been able to do that yet. frown.gif But I will strive...

Do small beetles up to 5 mm need to straighten their legs and antennae, or is it permissible to leave the legs bent?

PS:
I apologize for such stupid questions, but by education and occupation I am a technician (electronic engineer), my daughter and I started collecting insects (mainly beetles) quite recently, and we have practically no entomological experience. Except that I myself spent almost a year studying in the entomological circle under ZINA, but that was back in 1969. Therefore, all the skills acquired there have long been lost, you have to learn everything again.
And I want the collection to look good and have all the necessary labels, as it should.

28.07.2011 18:37, Коллекционер

and what, even at the lepturus? they are also short

28.07.2011 21:07, borov

Good evening, can you tell me, please, how and with the help of what sprawlers to spread hymenoptera? At the weekend, I couldn't resist, I took a couple of reddish cryptohils, somehow fixed them on the usual butterfly straighteners, spread the wings of one wasp at 90 degrees to the body, and the other back, more naturally, I don't know how to do it correctly.

30.07.2011 8:59, Anser

Lots of questions and answers about nothing!!!Type in any search engine-Kozlov M., Ninburg E.Your collection.(Entomology, 1971)-only 9 mb...Download from a torrent from the list only this book and you will be happy!In my younger years, she helped me a lot...Fashion comes and goes,and classics are everything!!!
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30.07.2011 9:48, vasiliy-feoktistov

Why search? Here it is (I posted it now, on purpose). To avoid going too far.
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30.07.2011 10:25, Anser

Yes, I have it in my nature-flipping through an old primer is more interesting...(thank you for the link)

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30.07.2011 10:28, vasiliy-feoktistov

Yes, I have it in my nature-flipping through an old primer is more interesting...

Yes, and I have since childhood, too, is (on the shore). I posted this for those who can't get a natural one right now.
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30.07.2011 10:55, borov

Well, I also don't need to search for this book on the Internet - it's on my shelf, moreover, before spreading my wasps, I looked through chapter 3, section spreading other insects. The book is old-maybe something has changed, straightening with a groove is not a very convenient thing in my opinion, so I asked the question.
Unser, if you have more recent information, I would appreciate it.

30.07.2011 11:45, Anser

Traffic jam is the best for me.And even now it's not a problem!And straighteners for large moths and the tropics-either to order or Linden!All tools are now no problem!And I don't know why everyone likes some chemical materials?Under the floor laminate in all stores sell bedding made of natural cork!-3.4 mm thick.Natural glue and all issues are resolved.You can even make a reinforced concrete straightener by sticking a layer of cork.Use it while there is natural, otherwise cheap dry wine already has chemistry!

01.08.2011 14:44, Коллекционер

in the literature on straightening (inflating) caterpillars, it is said that they need to be attached together with the stick on which it is inflated, but in our city, in the museum of local lore, the caterpillars are simply impaled in the abdomen, so you can do it? (mobile phone photo) [attachmentid ()=117455][attachmentid ()=117457]

in erect-winged birds, only the right wings are spread, but in mantises?

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07.08.2011 12:17, ALEKSANDER

Do you have such butterflies flying in Voronezh?

07.08.2011 20:33, Коллекционер

no, this is a stand on the other side, but I can post photos of the stands with our

07.08.2011 20:54, Сергуха

do milestones of barbels have a mustache back? without exception?

let me share my practice: for me, so barbels with short whiskers - such as ragiums or spondylae-can be fixed with the antennae extended forward (as in life) - and it's beautiful, and they don't take up much space - especially if the beetle is on the die.
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12.08.2011 16:28, Вишняков Алексей

Friends. I would like to once again raise my question about the location of the antennae of the nutcrackers after straightening. Both options are found in collections. Here is an example (see photo). From the point of view of practicality, everything is clear. Dmitrich said it right above. But from the point of view of aesthetics and the correct design of the collection, what is the best way? We are talking about beetles glued to the die.

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12.08.2011 21:27, Triplaxxx

Fully straighten the antennae and legs of the exhibition specimens. In the scientific collection-as in the left photo. If glued specimens fully straighten their legs and whiskers, then the die should be larger in area and protect the insect. In general, for glued insects, the shape of the spread should be such that the key signs are visible.

12.08.2011 21:54, Вишняков Алексей

What you wrote is absolutely true, but all of the above applies to all beetles in general. I'm also interested in the unfolding of the nutcrackers. In this case, the antennae are the key feature?
For example. Let's take a small karabus, straighten it out and glue it to the die. I wouldn't even think of spreading his mustache forward. Although the die can be taken and larger in size. Because it is customary for carabuses to place their antennae back. Drugomu they somehow look ridiculous. I wanted to hear the same thing about the nutcrackers. Do I need to direct my antennae forward? I personally like it along the body. I think it's more natural. So why is it that the collections of nutcrackers on dies contain equal parts of both variants of straightening? Or am I sweating for nothing and need to do as my heart is dearer?

16.08.2011 9:14, ALEKSANDER

Tell me, should I straighten the sawyere of the karabuses properly?Preferably with a photo.Thank you in advance

16.08.2011 9:19, vasiliy-feoktistov

Tell me, should I straighten the sawyere of the karabuses properly?Preferably with a photo.Thank you in advance

Would you read the forum or something? Here.

16.08.2011 9:32, ALEKSANDER

jump.gif Thank you, I didn't find it badly! Just caught it yesterday and decided to crack down

16.08.2011 10:07, Victor Titov

Or am I worrying for nothing?

yes.gif
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16.08.2011 14:50, алекс 2611

What you wrote is absolutely true, but all of the above applies to all beetles in general. I'm also interested in the unfolding of the nutcrackers. In this case, the antennae are the key feature?
For example. Let's take a small karabus, straighten it out and glue it to the die. I wouldn't even think of spreading his mustache forward. Although the die can be taken and larger in size. Because it is customary for carabuses to place their antennae back. Drugomu they somehow look ridiculous. I wanted to hear the same thing about the nutcrackers. Do I need to direct my antennae forward? I personally like it along the body. I think it's more natural. So why is it that the collections of nutcrackers on dies contain equal parts of both variants of straightening? Or am I sweating for nothing and need to do as my heart is dearer?



for many nutcrackers, the structure of the antennae is quite a " key " sign. For the genus Ampedus, for example, the structure and punctuation of the antennae are simply necessary.

personally, I noavitsya rasplavka nutcrackers with antennae along the body, die there or not plashka
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16.08.2011 20:34, Коллекционер

Would you read the forum or something? Here.

it's not pretty rolleyes.gif

16.08.2011 20:36, Коллекционер

I will now glue all the beetles to transparent triangles jump.gif
and beautiful, and compact, and do not need to pierce, and you can always remove, only sooo big on the needle budu

16.08.2011 21:27, vasiliy-feoktistov

It's not pretty rolleyes.gif

This is rational.
That's when you have a lot of beetles and the protruding parts start to break off: then you will understand that it is better to edit like this.

16.08.2011 22:06, Вишняков Алексей

Oh, here's someone else who would have told you how to straighten the ichneumonids. shuffle.gif How is it now customary to put riders in the collection? I see that no one straightens it the old-fashioned way. Now it's so fashionable.

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16.08.2011 22:54, Коллекционер

This is rational.
That's when you have a lot of beetles and the protruding parts start to break off: then you will understand that it is better to edit like this.

well I guess it won't be any time soon)

09.09.2011 19:03, Коллекционер

I don't know what to do with the riders, they have dried themselves, but when I remove the pins from the "tails" they do not retain their shape at all(
they are distorted ugly, is it possible to fix this?P1010990.JPG

09.09.2011 22:33, Liparus

I don't know what to do with the riders, they have dried themselves, but when I remove the pins from the "tails" they do not retain their shape at all(
they are distorted ugly, is it possible to fix this?P1010990.JPG

You need to glue the tails together, the top turned out like this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andreah45/5038731578/

09.09.2011 22:35, Liparus

I also caught them this year, glued them to the side of the die.

10.09.2011 12:56, Коллекционер

but there's no other way? I would like to see all 3 of them, maybe I can use their hairspray?can fix

10.09.2011 19:53, Liparus

I would leave it like this, the copy will not become more valuable from varnish if not vice versa.

10.09.2011 21:01, Коллекционер

well, they are crooked......

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24.09.2011 13:49, ктырь

from the very beginning, I stick all the beetles on separate sheets of thick paper , and just number and indicate the year and month . I don't specify any additional information in general . I think that the labels only spoil the overall appearance of the collection. moreover, I do not conduct scientific work ,but where I caught what beetle and under what circumstances I already remember very well. it is not always possible to determine the exact name, and sometimes it is only a reason for unnecessary disputes. I collect the company in separate boxes by types and subspecies of the collection first of all for myself and set the rules for myself.
advantages of this method:
- the beetle is clearly fixed , each foot is glued.
- convenient to straighten, fixing the limbs immediately when straightening.
-there were cases of boxes falling from the table to the floor , not one copy was not damaged, it is safe to transport.

I think the main thing here is to enjoy the process. cool.gif

24.09.2011 14:34, vasiliy-feoktistov

from the very beginning, I stick all the beetles on separate sheets of thick paper , and just number and indicate the year and month . I don't specify any additional information in general . I think that the labels only spoil the overall appearance of the collection. moreover, I do not conduct scientific work ,but where I caught what beetle and under what circumstances I already remember very well. it is not always possible to determine the exact name, and sometimes it is only a reason for unnecessary disputes. I collect the company in separate boxes by types and subspecies of the collection first of all for myself and set the rules for myself.
advantages of this method:
- the beetle is clearly fixed , each foot is glued.
- convenient to straighten, fixing the limbs immediately when straightening.
-there were cases of boxes falling from the table to the floor , not one copy was not damaged, it is safe to transport.

I think the main thing here is to enjoy the process. cool.gif

It's easier to fill it with epoxy right away: so the soul is calmer lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif

24.09.2011 15:58, Коллекционер

damn, what about the riders? not hunting for a die to glue the same velivanov

24.09.2011 18:36, okoem

I just number it and specify the year and month . I don't specify any additional information in general . I think that the inscriptions only spoil the overall appearance of the collection...... where I caught what beetle and under what circumstances I already remember very well.

yes.gif Down with the labels! This is a disfiguring collection invention of sclerotics!
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24.09.2011 19:48, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

And also definitions - why swear? And so everything is clear - a butterfly, a moth, a cockroach, a beetle. And the biting ones are bedbugs.
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24.09.2011 19:52, lepidopterolog

It's much simpler: bug - and that's it.

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