Insects fumigating

I completely forgot.Finally, a caress was made for women-to clean their nails from glamor.And for many people, by a certain age, the roof is sliding down,or the brain inside the head is drying out.You can consider this aspect as the application of affection, imho...

Ethyl acetate is considered one of the safest esters for humans. It is also used as a food flavoring agent.

This post was edited by ENO-06.07.2016 23: 08

It is also used as a food flavoring agent.

I haven't heard about the fact that ethyl acetate is used as a food flavoring agent. I know that butyl acetate (pear essence) is used in the food industry.

Brood butterflies at home have recently been kept in the freezer, where I have minus 25. And it doesn't twitch, and you don't need any volatile fumes. And shiny butterflies or green moths won't change the color. And you can also spread it out as fresh when there is time. I liked.

Brood butterflies at home have recently been kept in the freezer, where I have minus 25. And it doesn't twitch, and you don't need any volatile fumes. And shiny butterflies or green moths won't change the color. And you can also spread it out as fresh when there is time. I liked.

How to make brood butterflies harden their wings normally, so that they can spread out normally? And then when the butterfly hatches - it has very thin wings

It's very simple, don't kill it as soon as it's hatched. I give you a minimum of an hour or two, or even half a day, after the wings are spread out.

It's very simple, don't kill it as soon as it's hatched. I give you a minimum of an hour or two, or even half a day, after the wings are spread out.

they fly after they are hatched, where to put them and where to keep them for half a day?

they fly after they are hatched, where to put them and where to keep them for half a day?

Well, actually, and to bring out and keep, as long as necessary, should be in the cage.

I cheat, daytime butterflies, for example, are displayed in the morning, I know this, and the pupa shows what will come out tomorrow, I put the cage in a dark closet, wake up, look, the daytime butterfly came out in a cage in a dark closet, calmly go to work, it sits in a cage in the dark and waits for me without flapping its wing. Wings are like stone in such a long time.
With the night ones, it is more difficult, sometimes I woke up from the fact that the peacock eye is running around the cage, but this is rare, as a rule I get up in the morning and get wet.

they fly after they are hatched,

If the butterfly has flown, it means that the wings have hardened. As long as the wings are soft, the butterfly can only flutter.

With the night ones, it is more difficult, sometimes I woke up from the fact that the peacock eye is running around the cage, but this is rare, as a rule I get up in the morning and get wet.

If a series of nocturnal episodes starts to appear in the cage, I put the cage under a lamp for the night. Everyone who goes out at night, sit quietly until morning. However, not quite so. Most species are sitting. But there are some species that do not sit either in the light or in the dark. These should be washed as soon as they harden.

As long as the wings are soft, the butterfly can only flutter.

For the first time in my life, the admiral came out and fluttered against the glass on the window, I froze it, began to spread it, and the wings were thin and bent a little higher than the base, by 2 mm...

For the first time in my life, the admiral came out and fluttered against the glass on the window, I froze it, began to spread it, and the wings were thin and bent a little higher than the base, by 2 mm...

in this case, it rather plays the role of an "uncomfortable" exit, i.e. there were no conditions for "drawing/drying" or just the butterfly itself could get into a disadvantageous position

This post was edited by AGG-23.07.2016 01: 58

in this case, it rather plays the role of an "uncomfortable" exit, i.e. there were no conditions for "drawing/drying" or just the butterfly itself could get into a disadvantageous position

I took the chrysalis in a hollow tree and hung it in a jar, without a lid, after 10 days the admiral came out...I have never bred before, I have a cage in the form of a cube with a masking grid of 25 by 25 centimeters.I take it you need some other cages?

I took the chrysalis in a hollow tree and hung it in a jar, without a lid, after 10 days the admiral came out...I have never bred before, I have a cage in the form of a cube with a masking grid of 25 by 25 centimeters.I take it you need some other cages?

the cage is quite satisfactory. probably, there was a defect in the pupa, or something..... there are many options. this happens when some of the butterflies (about dozens , and sometimes hundreds) are normal, but a few are "liquid" . in the topic about deformities or aberrants was my pear saturnia "sickle-winged" in her liquid did not go to the wings in full, but accumulated in the base of the veins with bubbles. of course, you won't see this on a dried ex

People, help, pliz, with the solution of the problem!!!!!!
By adding up an uncountable number of coincidences in one place, I got my hands on C. fraxini-a day ago.
Task # 1 - take a picture of her at home. That's where it starts. Even after a 4-hour stay in the refrigerator on the bottom shelf (in a jar), when it is taken out into the light, it begins to "spin" in the jar, to put it mildly. 250 gr. plastic jar of sour cream, it moves from the inside out of place.
Task # 2-I would like to take a picture of her "in nature" in nature. conditions - but at 25 deg. C - it will instantly disappear.
Hence the question - how to immobilize it in order to calmly take photos at home, and even more so in nature. Thank you very much.

This post was edited by arud - 26.08.2016 20: 26

CO2 should help. But getting it to show its rear fenders can be quite problematic.

This post was edited by ENO - 26.08.2016 21: 21

  
Hence the question - how to immobilize it in order to calmly take photos at home, and even more so in nature.

At home , it's very simple. Take a piece of cardboard or other material. Cover it with a transparent cap. Under the hood, launch a butterfly. You wait for it to sit on the bark, if it sits on the wall of the hood - shake it off. Carefully remove the hood and take pictures.
Take a picture in nature - everything is the same, but instead of cardboard, bring a piece of bark from nature or whatever you want to photograph it on.
You do not need to keep it in the refrigerator before shooting, after the refrigerator, butterflies begin to fly very actively.

CO2 should help. But getting it to show its rear fenders can be quite problematic.

ENO, is propane gas (for lighters) suitable ?

I haven't tried it, but there is a suspicion that he will starve to death. The design of a CO2 narcotizer is described in detail in this topic a few pages earlier. There is nothing complicated there, all materials are available at the grocery market and in the pharmacy, production is a matter of 15 minutes.

For immobilization, I use an injection of lidacoin from an insulin syringe. It works on butterflies instantly. The insect remains alive, but under anesthesia. If I don't have time to spread the butterflies all at once, then I put them in the refrigerator. They can live there for up to 2-3 days. After straightening, I send them for shock freezing in the freezer, for at least 30 minutes. Then drying. Cons of this method: if you go over the dosage, then the excess lidacoin comes out of the abdomen with colored physiological fluids and spoils the wings. Dosiroqua depends on the size of the butterfly. I even pricked little pigeons. If the insect "wakes up" because of a small dosage or from time to time, then I put a second injection. I find this method very effective. Because the material remains alive and immobilized for a long time, which in turn perfectly affects the quality of spreading. In my opinion, dry and steamed material straightens worse.

This post was edited by Artem174-14.09.2017 20: 03

Chloroform sila-ethyl acetate grave )

To be honest, I was tired of puncturing the half-babies who are being beaten in bags or arrange a zombie apocalypse on mattresses. Switched back to chloroform, which doesn't put you to sleep, but kills you. Beauty!

it is strange to hear such a thing from a person "area of interest - spades" of chloroform evil! ether, any, - evil " cyanide = * * * ec!!!!
starved, got home alive even after 2 weeks. "hand-to-hand and on the" block", eggs for withdrawal. everyone is safe and not complaining

everyone searches and finds their own

This post was edited by AGG-07/19/2019 14: 41

And what is good? You, it seems, have excluded everything I know (not counting alcohol, acetone, liquid for soaking women's nails and other things that are used only for despair).

Roman, if I'm not mistaken, the conversation was about EA. acetone tanned hard, how to kill a butterfly with alcohol, I honestly can't imagine, it's easier to kill yourself "liquids for soaking women's nails" -you need to read the composition. "without acetone" = main component-EA. available in almost any selmag and current on the road

For butterflies and in general, except for the insulin syringe with ammonia, I do not use anything. I tried everything, cyanide is super, but I can't get it. EA must be constantly monitored so that during opening and closing it does not fly away and the butterfly does not break while it is frozen.

I used to work with cyanide myself and now I have to meet cyanide grandmas-ass. primoril EA, if a large pricked and will be happy

What's wrong with cyanide? I used a stain 9 years ago, and I was very happy with it. And most importantly, you do not need to fill up every time.

AGG, EA belongs to the category of "any ether", which means "evil". About injections of ammonia (ammonia is another thing) - and it does not tan? And I can hardly imagine how to prick something small with them (in the case of moths, for example). If the stain is small, 96% alcohol is stained well. But I'm not talking about butterflies, maybe they are less sensitive. Acetone may be tanning (I didn't pay much attention to it on purpose, I didn't use it much), but it's far from chloroform in this regard.

I've tried all sorts of things...!!! In the end, and from end to end, I decided on EA - for me personally - the most convenient. Two minuses - it evaporates very quickly and is not sold in our city. And all these "Caresses"... - they have too much water, which for some reason likes to condense on the walls of the stain at the most inopportune moment

This post was edited by major65-20.07.2019 23: 11

Chloroform is evil!

If you overdo it in the stain, then ethyl acetate will kill you so that only the wings will break. I've already done this on eupithecia flights. Another thing is that chloroform reliably kills a large butterfly in 20 seconds. During this time, even rigor mortis does not have time to develop - you can immediately spread out, you can get a tattoo (always with a paper die under the wings). Ethyl acetate, according to my observations, was greatly overrated. There is nothing positive about it. Not only does it kill slowly, it's also wet - you have to wipe the stain with a dry cloth every two or three minutes, otherwise the material is covered. And ammonia is not an option at all. Too many species burn out their coloration.

Ammonia "burned" me only apollons, and even then everything returned to its place, and of course green nolids and spades should not be pricked with them. But this does not detract from its other advantages, one of which is accessibility.

Ammonia "burned" me only apollons, and even then everything returned to its place, and of course green nolids and spades should not be pricked with them. But this does not detract from its other advantages, one of which is accessibility.

Strange, I have all the moth after the ammonia remained green

Ethyl acetate, according to my observations, was greatly overrated. There is nothing positive about it. Not only does it kill slowly, it's also wet - you have to wipe the stain with a dry cloth every two or three minutes, otherwise the material is covered.

I don't know how slow it is, but even the water bottles in the coffee stain don't have time to break. And I didn't notice the dampness - no one has stuck to the walls yet, even the micra hangs on the bank like..... in an ice hole. A stain, in any case, in the breaks I wipe from the inside and moisture, yet, did not notice.

... you can immediately spread out, you can get a tattoo (always with a paper die under the wings).

Can I ask you a question? And why the die?

Ammonia "burned" me only apollons, and even then everything returned to its place, and of course green nolids and spades should not be pricked with them. But this does not detract from its other advantages, one of which is accessibility.

Melanargy, Parnassus, Actias, geometers-immediately and forever turn yellow. There will be no color rollback, and it will only get worse. And in all other species, the rate of natural fading is accelerated. Ammonia is very aggressive. I messed up the lomograph with them, which should not react in any way, but now I try not to abuse them. And most importantly, one punctured butterfly evaporates this muck for a long time and can spoil a bunch of copies in the tattoo.
Die - so that the wings do not sag parallel to the pin. Then it is more convenient to straighten, less likely to damage the butterfly.
Chloroform kills very quickly. For photographing, I decided to slightly ruin the fulguraria, threw it in the stain for about ten seconds, remembering that in ethyl acetate, even after ten minutes, a butterfly can wake up, break its wings and disfigure everyone around, but after chloroform, it never left - I had to prick it. With rapid killing, the tanning effect does not appear at all, and rigor mortis has nothing to do with chemistry - if the butterfly is "stuck" in some position, it is not always the fault of poison. Of the minuses of chloroform - only "inflating" beetles, but again, when overexposed in the stain.

Good day to all! Q: Can I use methyl acetate for soaking insects? All my friends use ethyl acetate, but its molecule is heavier, therefore less volatile and therefore does not act as quickly... Questions are answered that this has always been the case and they have not thought about it. And I want to try something more armor-piercing.

I believe that it is quite possible. As well as, for example, butyl acetate.

Last year, due to the lack of ethyl acetate, I used nail polish remover, which, according to the label, consists of methyl acetate, butyl acetate and water. Normally washed, although slower than ethyl acetate, but I think it's because of the water. No tanning or color changes were noted.

Good day everyone!
Tell me, and you have how the stains are arranged, you stick cotton wool on the lid of the jar and dig it through the ETS? Perhaps due to its inaccuracy, but a lot of material, in particular butterflies, soaked, literally soaked EC, which spoils the final appearance. Yes, and lil like a decent amount, but still hang out for 3-4 minutes padding the walls with wings. I read about injections, but when I try to prick them, I wipe the pollen with my fingers. I understand that everything comes with practice, but I would like to listen to advice from experienced comrades. Thank you.