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17.02.2009 14:57, Yakovlev

whose types are they?

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17.02.2009 15:06, Vlad Proklov

The Munich Museum is probably the best I've ever seen

There in the unlockable cupboards?! Wow! It looks unprotected somehow...
The British Museum is cooler tongue.gif

17.02.2009 15:07, Vlad Proklov

whose types are they?

whose types are they?

Linnaeus!

17.02.2009 15:09, Yakovlev

No, I liked the British Museum less.
Often the boxes are wedged in the cabinets, and in Munich there is a huge room in the underground, climate control, you can freeze everything up to 40 degrees.
Working conditions are excellent.
I didn't feel very comfortable in London at all, but it was probably because of a very difficult personal situation. Munich and London are undoubtedly the largest butterfly collections. Huge collections
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17.02.2009 15:14, Yakovlev

Butterflies from Berlin-Australian Cossidae of the genus Endoxyla
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17.02.2009 16:22, Yakovlev

Kotbegemot is right. That's why he's a Hippo cat.
Yes, this is the holy of holies of all zoological systematics, types, herbarium, collection, library of Carl Linnaeus.
Another part is in Uppsala, something is in Stockholm, but the main part in this cache is called Linnean Society. Few people were there.

We work with types and take photos... And nearby in the hall is a crowd of drunken Britons holding a conference. Then they have coffee and cognac. The most curious ones also bent over the types, sturgeon sandwiches bend right over the boxes, but the European mentality does not allow them to be driven away by obscenities. Found out who it is-the Society of British toxocologists. Poisoners , i.e. rabid. I ask Lukhtanov, and what happens if the sandwich is on the types L...I eb...I. " Let's highlight the neotype!" Lukhtanov answered quietly. This is the greatness of taxonomy over toxicology!
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17.02.2009 17:11, Tigran Oganesov

This is what German policeman Manfred Strehle and his collection look like.

Mantis tattoo - you can immediately see our man!

17.02.2009 17:18, AntSkr

I often see unaligned holotypes - I don't know why... didn't you know how to straighten it before? The holotype is already impossible to rearrange, it is not allowed...

17.02.2009 17:41, RippeR

previously, they did not know how and did not practice smile.gif
and Linnaeus would have gone crazy if he had straightened everything out )

18.02.2009 10:44, Yakovlev

Holotypes are very often unaligned, especially in the 18th century.
The worst part is when the type is not there, when it is lost, when the type is glued together from three butterflies, when the fires of wars have taken away entire collections.
Imagine my snag on the types of E. Turati, who described many species from Libya. The collection was destroyed. Just labels. And there is simply no new material from Libya. And horseradish highlight the neotype.
Very difficult.

19.02.2009 9:58, Yakovlev

And there are also such collections

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19.02.2009 17:15, Zhuk

And there are also such collections

I've been thinking about this smile.giffor a long time
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19.02.2009 21:45, taler

And this I made for a gift to my grandmother in the village

And sign to your grandmother wink.gif

19.02.2009 22:06, RippeR

And there are also such collections

Oh, I collect one too!
Yes, there are a couple of good copies here )

21.02.2009 6:55, Yakovlev

I am very happy with such a surge of emotions in response to the picture about the pedantic fly
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25.02.2009 16:31, Трофим

And imagine the emotions of insects, that's who would be happy.

25.02.2009 17:00, RippeR

insects have no emotions )

26.02.2009 22:14, Papis

I decorated my home with this kind of work.
Not exactly a collector's box, but the hole in the wallpaper covers a fair amount smile.gif

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27.02.2009 6:23, Konung

Here are the endless shelves (this is just one of the aisles) with a collection of insects at the Institute of Animal Systematics and Ecology of the Siberian Branch of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Novosibirsk:
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V. V. Dubatolov at work:
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Yours truly with some butterfly...
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27.02.2009 7:24, Guest

Come on, some cabbage smile.gifpatch

27.02.2009 8:12, Yakovlev

Oh, you can see right away, Raseya-mother.
Thank God, capital repairs are already starting there.

27.02.2009 11:14, KDG

In the bins of the Zoological Museum in Copenhagen.

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27.02.2009 13:58, Yakovlev

In Copenhagen, the Fabritius collection. I wasn't there, unfortunately

27.02.2009 14:10, Proctos

Canadian National Insect Collection in Ottawa. This is essentially a Canadian Zine. Great people work there! smile.gif And you can sit at least 24 hours and 7 days a week!

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27.02.2009 16:04, KDG

In Copenhagen, the Fabritius collection. I wasn't there, unfortunately

Yeah. it stands alone in iron cabinets. Most of the types are surprisingly in excellent condition.

27.02.2009 17:40, Yakovlev

I'm just about to find out, cleanly, you can work 24 hours, and not at the moment when the curator arrives at work by 13 o'clock or is absent for 8 months of the year.
Everything for people.
I had experience taking material from various museums, like in 10 countries, but the most difficult moment I encountered was in a small Russian city in a moth-eaten museum - they didn't want to give it to me for processing. Three butterflies, not the type...
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27.02.2009 18:06, Konung

Oh, you can see right away, Raseya-mother.
Thank God, capital repairs are already starting there.

I was there in January, it seemed to me that the repair was already completed. And they made it there only in the corridors... partly still in the offices (especially the authorities), but nothing has changed in the museum.

27.02.2009 20:24, barko

A few photos from the Zoological Museum in Barcelona

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27.02.2009 21:09, А.Й.Элез

A few photos from the Zoological Museum in Barcelona

I wonder if they have such a level at all, or if they just put it very concisely and schoolishly into the general exposition, and in general people are serious?

27.02.2009 21:18, barko

I wonder if they have such a level at all, or if they just put it very concisely and schoolishly into the general exposition, and in general people are serious?
General expositions in many museums are as follows.

27.02.2009 21:21, Yakovlev

Even in most museums

27.02.2009 22:26, Nilson

I wonder if they have such a level at all, or if they just put it very concisely and schoolishly into the general exposition, and in general people are serious?


If we talk about museums for the average person, then, according to my impressions, in Europe, namely in Germany and England, where I visited more often (in the States I really did not find local natural history museums), even a provincial provincial museum in some Barnstaple or Braunschweig will give a head start to many of our metropolitan museums. Perhaps their bins are not so rich, but the attitude to the visitor and modern performance themes are much more developed. This may be a legacy of the colonial era, but in many remote villages in Britain you can see a stuffed frog, say, or a copy of Atlas and birdwing. And all this is in excellent condition. I remember my local history museum in Mogilev, by the way, the oldest in the Republic of Belarus, and the most titled-so there the boxes with insects look as if the curator was shot back in 37. It's incomprehensible. There are, of course, exceptions, such as the Darwin Museum, the Local History Museum in Vologda and Yaroslavl, but these are isolated cases. Take a look at the museum in Maykop - the collections of m-m (the first director of the Caucasian Reserve, damn, I forgot my last name - Khristoforovich by patronymic) are simply terrible. There is no reference to a region that is so entomologically rich on the scale of the former Soviet Union - the tropical remains of its founder's collection.
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27.02.2009 23:35, А.Й.Элез

If we talk about museums for the average person, then, according to my impressions, in Europe, namely in Germany and England, where I visited more often (in the States I really did not find local natural history museums), even a provincial provincial museum in some Barnstaple or Braunschweig will give a head start to many of our metropolitan museums. Perhaps their bins are not so rich, but the attitude to the visitor and modern performance themes are much more developed. This may be a legacy of the colonial era, but in many remote villages in Britain you can see a stuffed frog, say, or a copy of Atlas and birdwing. And all this is in excellent condition. I remember my local history museum in Mogilev, by the way, the oldest in the Republic of Belarus, and the most titled-so there the boxes with insects look as if the curator was shot back in 37. It's incomprehensible. There are, of course, exceptions, such as the Darwin Museum, the Local History Museum in Vologda and Yaroslavl, but these are isolated cases. Take a look at the museum in Maykop - the collections of m-m (the first director of the Caucasian Reserve, damn, I forgot my last name - Khristoforovich by patronymic) are simply terrible. There is no reference to a region that is so entomologically rich on the scale of the former Soviet Union - the tropical remains of its founder's collection.

That's unfortunate. But then a colleague introduced us to the Zoological Museum in Barcelona, not the local history museum, and that's what surprised me. By the way, it seems that either in Yaroslavl, or in Rostov the Great in the museum I caught the eye of a hawk moth clearly exotic, but included in the collection of local fauna. Similarly, in the museum of Veliky Ustyug, galatea is placed; if I'm not mistaken, and the label is from some kind of proximity (of course, what the hell is not joking, but still doubtful).

But these are, again, local history museums, and there is no demand for them in entomology. They put more emphasis on the history of the region. To be honest, I do not know why you mentioned Vologda. Of course, the diorama with beavers even I could not resist taking a picture once, the natural history part of them is given very well, but in entomology there is nothing to talk about. I visit Vologda and the Vologda region quite regularly and have seen enough of them. Local museums of local lore are only shown (and generally have)in our country interesting entomological material, when this case is taken (or was taken while he was alive) by a local very active entomologist enthusiast, and these are exceptions. God forbid, the Olympics will be crowded with guests to the Museum of Nature in Krasnaya Polyana, then something will laugh... But the exhibition of the Zoological museum in the photos surprised me a little. Perhaps after our meeting in Moscow... After all, it's not the capital there.

By the way, when I first visited the Moscow State University Zoo Museum somewhere in the early 1970s, back in the old windows (oak, presumably) with green cloth under the material, there were samples of individual dimorphism-over 60 pieces of male deer, and as an example of seasonal dimorphism - about the same number of specimens levans arranged in a closed circle with a gradual (!) color change from the first generation to the second. Of course, when in science, to put it mildly, priorities shifted from scientific to moralistic, all this was removed from the exhibition, so as not to decompose young people in large series... Now, I'm ashamed to admit, I haven't looked at the insect exhibit in two years, I don't know how it is or what.

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27.02.2009 23:40, RippeR

the last wasp in the middle row is impressive!

28.02.2009 4:34, Yakovlev

Nilson is completely right. European museums are impressive, and not only with the money invested there, but also with the brains, culture and the right attitude to collections.
For example, in Barnaul-there was a very good collection of butterflies, which was collected by a magnificent, now deceased person, Honored teacher of the USSR, physicist, A. Lvov. Before my eyes, first a toddler, then a schoolboy, then a student, all this fell into a wild decline. Only through the fault of the curators.
And there is another city in Siberia with a magnificent museum, an excellent collection, where leatherheads walk like elephants. Another city in Siberia, where 20% of the collection was devoured, then caught on.
The staff absolutely does not perform the functions of curators! Be at work from 9 to 17 every day, provide technical support for the collection and visiting specialists.
In Europe, Japan - I'm not afraid to say with confidence - potential opponents, you are treated with a hundred times more respect than in your native museums. And it's disgusting to watch.
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28.02.2009 4:41, Yakovlev

Thank God ZIN is a nice exception!
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01.03.2009 19:25, Egorus

Less than a few decades later, the dream came true-to have
many identical entomological boxes.
I set myself the task of "moving" from adapted, different
boxes to new, specialized boxes before
the end of winter. I have completed the task
, and I congratulate myself and everyone on the arrival of SPRING!!!

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01.03.2009 19:42, DavBaz

Did you buy them?

01.03.2009 19:45, Egorus

for DavBaz
I make it myself.

01.03.2009 19:57, DavBaz

What kind of material?

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