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Some Potosia spp.

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04.02.2008 0:30, Cerambyx

[quote=Nimrod,03.02.2008 02:38]

04.02.2008 13:54, Nimrod

By larvae-you can. However, it is desirable to have at least 10 copies of them from each population.
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05.02.2008 22:01, Nilson

What I think is Netocia interruptocostata, Ballion, 1870
Tajikistan, Obigarm, 20.05.2001. Legesin O. leg.
The beetle above Mylabris is more similar to N. bogdanovi, but I can't say for sure.

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06.02.2008 1:58, Nimrod

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29.02.2008 23:11, RippeR

Protaetia vidua (Gory and Perch., 1833)
Romanio, Hageny, 13.05.05

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07.06.2008 13:23, bugslov

Liocola lugubris already flew near St. Petersburg, caught a male in the Krasnoselsky district of the city in the park on the fly. I'll post some pictures later.

07.06.2008 21:50, guest: rpanin

Yesterday I was brought a female Liocola lugubris from Filevsky Park. The photo will come later

A fairly common beetle .You just need to know where and how to catch it.

08.06.2008 21:46, bugslov

here are the pictures of 5.06.2008 okr. Krasny Selo, a broad-leaved park.

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08.06.2008 23:10, bugslov

Rare in the Leningrad region due to the small number of biotopes

09.06.2008 19:19, RippeR

Here on the flowers caught such an interesting one... kupreyu? hu from the vms? Nimrod, help!"

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09.06.2008 22:13, RippeR

In my opinion, it is visible. that it is already slightly not alive.... frown.gifBut if I find it, I can still leave it alive, but I don't promise that there will be more. but soon I will go to that place again.
and why live?

10.06.2008 0:11, Nimrod

Good night, ladies and gentlemen!
Please, Mr. RippeR
This is most likely P. (P.) cuprea metallica(Herbst.) But if this instance does not have the old points on the knees of all its legs , then it may be called something like this:
P. (P.) cuprea metallica + P. (P.) fieberi fieberi [hybrid form!]
or
P. (P.) cuprea metallica + P. (P.) cuprina s.str. [h. f!]

Here, approximately in this way, I believe, the form P.(P.) bessarabica(Panin)arose
But you can try to look for aedeagus (if it's a male, of course!)
Or leave it to me...
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11.06.2008 1:00, Nimrod

Good day, ladies and gentlemen!

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11.06.2008 1:45, RippeR

wisdom is good wink.gif

what is a retificate?

11.06.2008 10:22, mikee

wisdom is good wink.gif

what is a retificate?

Eh, young-green smile.gifis a simplification of "rectified ethyl alcohol", i.e. the last rectification process.

11.06.2008 18:23, Mikhail F. Bagaturov

Alas. Mr. Nimrod
just FYI some arachnid hybrids are very prolific, alas; (
beetles have absolutely no way with this?

12.06.2008 0:19, Nimrod

Good day, ladies and gentlemen!

12.06.2008 13:21, Mikhail F. Bagaturov

I do not know how Grandfather Mendel is there, in detail and in detail, but the experience that the son of mistakes is difficult, says about the facts of fertile hybrids in relation to arachnids about the following:
Hybrid individuals obtained from the "crossing" of two different species of spiders, being sexually mature when crossed with a sexual partner, belonging to one of the parent species (it is worth mentioning that only with one of them, not with both), brought offspring...

12.06.2008 13:46, Nimrod

Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen!
Misha, these are experiments in captivity! And they are still degenerates. I don't understand how this can happen - they have a lot of restrictions on genetics and morphology. Moreover, how can the appropriate pheromones be developed to attract the other sex?
Oh, we've already gone completely offline...

12.06.2008 22:10, Bad Den

Protaetia (Potosia) cuprea ignicollis (Gory et Percheron,1833)
Israel, Haifa, July 2007
Caught a taler, for which I thank him very much! smile.gif

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This post was edited by Bad Den-08.04.2018 21: 21
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12.06.2008 22:13, Bad Den

Protaetia (Foveopotosia) judith (Reiche,1871)
Israel, Haifa, July 2007
Also collected taler, for which many thanks to him again smile.gif

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12.06.2008 22:27, Bad Den

Protaetia (Netocia) afflicta libani (Gory et Percheron,1833)
Israel, Haifa, July 2007
Thanks again to taler for the material smile.gif

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12.06.2008 22:29, Bad Den

Aethiessa floralis (Fabricius, 1787)
Israel, Haifa, July 2007
Thanks again to taler smile.gif

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This post was edited by Bad Den-08.04.2018 21: 24
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13.06.2008 0:27, Nimrod

Good night, ladies and gentlemen!
Interesting form of Ae. mesopotamica!
Is this a male? In that case, I would like to thank Mr. Taler twice for making Mr. Bad Den so lucky. As folk wisdom says in such cases:
"Let not the hand of the giver be impoverished, and let not the hand of the taker wither."..
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13.06.2008 11:23, Bad Den

Good night, ladies and gentlemen!
Interesting form of Ae. mesopotamica!
Is this a male? In that case, I would like to thank Mr. Taler twice for making Mr. Bad Den so lucky. As folk wisdom says in such cases:
"Let not the hand of the giver be impoverished, and let not the hand of the taker wither."..

A male, I think. In any case, a diamond-shaped depression on the abdomen is available, although I would not say that it is deep...
Something I already doubted that this is mesopotamica (I looked at the "Fauna of the USSR", the pronotum is not similar). It seems to me now that this is some form of A. rugipennis. Although, the prothorax process is most similar to that of A. inhumata. In general, you need to look at the genitals?

This post was edited by Bad Den - 13.06.2008 11: 26

13.06.2008 23:55, Nimrod

Good night, ladies and gentlemen!
Mr. Bad Den, of course, is better to extract edeagus, since there are 2 species in Israel:
Ae. floralis (F.)
Ae. mesopotomica (Burm.)

By the nature of the pattern development, this form occupies an intermediate position between the two species, and may well be Ae. floralis(F.), although I still prefer the first option. I may be wrong.
And it is better, of course, to start a separate topic on this kind, since this is a rather interesting group, and Protaetia is not at all close
... But this is optional, of course, and for convenience.Vobbsche, I do not define this genus according to Medvedev, since there are a number of other publications....
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14.06.2008 23:48, Nimrod

My compliments to you, ladies and gentlemen!
I looked through my collection, Mr. Bad Den.
This is still the form Ae. floralis(F.)
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15.06.2008 8:23, PG18

Aethiessa albella
Yu. Z. Kazakhstan, Ustyurt w-k, May
Very numerous in some places, especially on the sands, in places where cattle were grazed in winter

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15.06.2008 8:26, PG18

Aethiessa szekessyi
Southwestern Kazakhstan, Ustyurt w-k, May
The species is rarer and larger. The image shows a rather dark version. There are usually more light strokes

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15.06.2008 16:30, Bad Den

In order to finally clarify the situation, or vice versa, to confuse everythingsmile.gif, I pulled out the genitals and photographed the process of the prothorax.

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17.06.2008 0:08, Nimrod

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17.06.2008 15:32, Mikhail F. Bagaturov

Hello dear!
Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen!
Misha, these are experiments in captivity! And they are still degenerates. I don't understand how this can happen - they have a lot of restrictions on genetics and morphology. Moreover, how can the appropriate pheromones be developed to attract the other sex?
Oh, we've already gone completely offline...


Funny...
Many species, such as the bison and several breeds of elk, were repeatedly restored as species by the so-called "reverse hybridization" ...
In the field you know, which I do, there is (loudly said of course), but nevertheless several times voiced the theory of my namewink.gif, which just explains this very well. In short, the essence is speciation: some groups have long been isolated both genetically and morphologically, and some are "insufficiently" isolated-species that, although they have clear separate characteristics, are capable of producing hybrid fertile offspring...
I'm not ready to comment on pheromones.

02.07.2008 19:57, bugslov

A fairly common beetle .You just need to know where and how to catch it.

Mr. rpanin could you tell us where and how to catch it?

03.07.2008 10:25, rpanin

Mr. rpanin could you tell us where and how to catch it?

In forest clearings and clearings .Wine and beer traps on the sunny side in the trees.
Red wine+beer, sugar and a little salt.
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12.07.2008 21:44, bugslov

Gentlemen, help me determine the bronze age!
Collected in the south-west of the Tver region, 20 km south of Andreapol, on the forest edge, July 2002. In the same place, a lot of Potosia metallica was collected, but this one differs from all others in color, almost no white spots and a little shape.

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12.07.2008 22:42, Nimrod

My compliments, ladies and gentlemen!
And this is also P. (P.) cuprea metallica(Herbst.), Mr. bugslov. Now I don't remember from memory, unfortunately, what this aberration is called, but if you need, I can take a look and answer you in the next few days.
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13.07.2008 7:41, bugslov

My compliments, ladies and gentlemen!
And this is also P. (P.) cuprea metallica(Herbst.), Mr. bugslov. Now I don't remember from memory, unfortunately, what this aberration is called, but if you need, I can take a look and answer you in the next few days.

I would be very grateful

14.07.2008 12:55, Nimrod

Good day, ladies and gentlemen!
I looked at my collection, Mr. bugslov. This is a male (legless for some reason) of the ab type mentioned above. mulsanti Reitt. Such forms, according to my observations, are quite common in certain years. I don't know yet why this is happening.
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16.07.2008 9:33, bugslov

Mr. Nimrod can you explain to me: how do you distinguish a female from a male in Potosia metallica? Thank you in advance!

16.07.2008 14:16, Kemist

Protaetia (Indoprotaetia) alboguttata, India, 1986, male

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