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23.08.2010 18:34, Igorvet

Enyo lugubris
Ecuador. True, I was already there earlier, but still I will repeat shuffle.gif
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25.08.2010 19:38, Igorvet

Sphinx ligustri constricta. leg. V.Izersky. Khabarovsk Territory.
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28.08.2010 23:41, Zheka

And here again such a beast, but now alive in nature. Taken on July 26 of this year in the north of the Odessa region. smile.gif Dolbina elegans
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31.08.2010 2:30, Igorvet

Wow! I dream of catching such an animal someday.

08.09.2010 22:07, kleschsh

Hello, please tell me what kind of hawk moth is this? I do not know what to feed, I found it in the bedstraw along with the bedstraw hawk moth, I took it home, but he refuses to eat this grass. I searched it, but I can't find its name on the web... frown.gif confused.gif

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08.09.2010 22:18, Alexandr Zhakov

Hello, please tell me what kind of hawk moth is this? I do not know what to feed, I found it in the bedstraw along with the bedstraw hawk moth, I took it home, but he refuses to eat this grass. I searched it, but I can't find its name on the web... frown.gif  confused.gif

This is the bedstraw hawk moth Hyles gallii, one of the color variations.
Take a look here http://lepiforum.de/cgi-bin/lepiwiki.pl?Hyles_Gallii

08.09.2010 22:41, kleschsh

This is the bedstraw hawk moth Hyles gallii, one of the color variations.
Take a look here http://lepiforum.de/cgi-bin/lepiwiki.pl?Hyles_Gallii

Thank you very much! Only if he doesn't start eating will he have to take it back
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09.09.2010 9:23, Grigory Grigoryev

Sphinx ligustri constricta. leg. V.Izersky. Khabarovsk Territory.


As far as I know, the constricta taxon is Japanese, and we
have Sphinx ligustri amurensis Oberthur, 1886

09.09.2010 12:21, Igorvet

I got it already defined with the label shuffle.gif, so I set it automatically, but still yes, I looked-constricta is still 100% Japanese, it is unlikely to reach the Khabarovsk Territory. So thanks for the comment.

14.09.2010 9:09, kleschsh

Hello, 2 out of 4 of my bedstraw hawks are buried in the ground for pupation, and 2 more are due to do so soon. I read that you need to store them in the refrigerator so that they don't come out ahead of time (although I guessed it myself))) ), so you will need to dig them out and put them in a new ground, because they pupated in a huge pot that you can't put in the refrigerator... Can you tell me how long after they are buried, you can do this? Which soil is best to use and how to monitor its humidity? Did you read that sawdust mixed with sand or earth is very good? And I also understood that in nature the pupa digs itself, I better get my own manually in the spring or they can do everything themselves? This is my first experience in growing butterflies, THANK YOU in advance smile.gif

14.09.2010 16:37, kleschsh

Proserpinus proserpina caterpillars in culture and a caterpillar found in nature. A natural specimen shows empty chorions of fly eggs from the family Tachinidae. This individual is doomed to die.


Tell me, please, such scars on the head indicate that the caterpillar is affected by a parasite and there is no chance of survival?

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14.09.2010 16:39, kleschsh

and inside it, closer to the head, something black shines through a little large enough weep.gif

14.09.2010 17:10, chuvilin

Friends, I suggest to view the stage of development of M. stellatarum L. Crimea, roc.Sevastopol,Augustpicture: M. stellatarum_L..jpg
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14.09.2010 19:31, kleschsh

Tell me, please, such scars on the head indicate that the caterpillar is affected by a parasite and there is no chance of survival?


and here is another caterpillar with a suspected parasite, although since the photo was taken in a week, it has shed its skin and grown 2-3 times, already the same size as those that recently pupated. TELL me, is there a chance that this is just a wound and not a parasite, and if a parasite, is it possible to kill it somehow, for example, freeze the pupa if the caterpillar pupates after all? (I understand that this is a crazy idea, but I want all my caterpillars to become butterflies). I will be very grateful for answers to questions and tips on care!!!!

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14.09.2010 20:27, chuvilin

Gus. D. nerii L. Israel, bringing smile.gifup children at the September 11 Convention

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28.09.2010 20:38, Sergey Rybalkin

Hyles livornica and Hyles zygophylli from Dagestan
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29.09.2010 9:43, Виктор Синяев

Do you want some rarities?
Second: Dahira sinjaeviorum

This post was edited by Viktor Sinyaev - 29.09.2010 09: 46

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10.10.2010 20:10, chuvilin

Daphnis nerii L. addition to the previously posted frame with a caterpillar, it was from it that it emerged smile.gif

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10.10.2010 20:23, mikee

Daphnis nerii L. addition to the previously posted frame with a caterpillar, it was from it that it emerged smile.gif

Vo, dela... And I took a pupa from Pasha, but so far it still lies weep.gif

10.10.2010 20:43, chuvilin

Vo, dela... And I took the pupa from Pasha, but so far it's still lying there weep.gif
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This is quite understandable, the fact is that I, in addition to buying a pupa, took three caterpillars from him to raise, this option is more troublesome, but also more reliable - all three are already hatched and spread out. But the pupa still lies, just like you, or rather it does not lie, but is already rotten.
Well, they do not like crowded content, especially in the last ages, they are very worried about this weep.gif

13.10.2010 18:18, TEMPUS

[quote=chuvilin,10.10.2010 21:43]

14.10.2010 16:24, Romada

Dear forumchane, help!!!!
I am asking you to help me identify hawk moth from photos. I apologize for the quality of shooting, I just fill my hand))) Alas, there are no collection points or any other identification marks, everything went exactly in this form. Are these photos enough to identify the species?

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15.10.2010 17:53, chuvilin

 

I took two pupae from Pavel and they all hatched fine.Maybe the temperature where you keep the pupae is too low.For the development of pupae of Daphnis nerii, a temperature of at least 25 degrees is required.


It is not the first year that I have been breeding various species, up to Oeneis aktashi L., and I fully understand the situation with temperature and other factors. Perhaps you did not understand from the comment that the three caterpillars taken for upbringing safely finished the oleander growing in the tub,pupated and hatched beautiful and all this at the same temperature indicators. Apparently, not all of them brought pupation was successful , You just remember how they tried to pupate in a tight jar right at the exhibition, and their eating brethren crawled on them, so someone was more lucky,someone less. And many thanks to Pavel in general for bringing such beautiful material, and I also bought Alexanor pupae from him )

15.10.2010 18:00, chuvilin

September 19 in the Tula region, near the village. Krainka. Caterpillar H. euphorbiae L.

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17.10.2010 12:37, taler

Thank you for your kind words.
Gentlemen, colleagues, friends-If you haven't found out who bought the butterfly pupae/caterpillars from me, please unsubscribe to my personal account.I will solve the problem.

18.10.2010 11:53, dim-va

I want to offer the forum members a photo of 2 caterpillars, which may finally put an end to a long dispute about whether these are 2 species or 1. The photo was kindly provided by Sergey Gordeev from Chita (thank you very much!) - caterpillars from Transbaikalia. On the left - Hyles costata, on the right-Hyles exilis (=chuvilini). Despite the external similarity of butterflies, both species belong to different phylogenetic lines of the genus Hyles, and their food plants are different: buckwheat in the first and milkweed in the second. An article about a valid name for the Chuvilin hawk moth in the press (about the name exilis, introduced by Yu. A. Derzhavets), should be published in November.

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18.10.2010 12:24, Grigory Grigoryev

Vadim, can you identify butterflies from photos ? To be honest, I can't do it :-).
I can post my photos in this topic.

18.10.2010 14:19, dim-va

Yes, you can. You just need to fill the eye a little - the signs are quite small. I hung up the hint (in the lower photos, the sign is indicated by a line). I'll explain in words. In exilis (=chuvilini), the inner edge of the outer dark band is somewhat bumpy and bends outward in the lower part of the wing - in which individuals it is strong, in which it is not very strong, but because of this, the light medial field of the wing expands slightly in the lower part. In costata, on the contrary, the inner edge of the dark band is smooth and straight and often directed to the base of the wing. Because of this, often the light field of the wing is somewhat narrowed at the base. I understand that this feature is successful for extreme forms, but for many intermediate ones it is difficult, but out of a hundred butterflies, only 1-2 cause a problem, no more. Of course, hang it out, let's see and practice smile.gif
Yes, the attribute was checked repeatedly..... with the {antispymer blocks the message when I write, which ones!! frown.gif }. Both species are often found sympatrically and syntopically in Mongolia, although costata is a larger mesophile.

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18.10.2010 18:20, TEMPUS

It is not the first year that I have been breeding various species, up to Oeneis aktashi L., and I fully understand the situation with temperature and other factors. Perhaps you did not understand from the comment that the three caterpillars taken for upbringing safely finished the oleander growing in the tub,pupated and hatched beautiful and all this at the same temperature indicators. Apparently, not all of them brought pupation was successful , You just remember how they tried to pupate in a tight jar right at the exhibition, and their eating brethren crawled on them, so someone was more lucky,someone less. And many thanks to Pavel in general for bringing such beautiful material, and I also bought Alexanor pupae from him )

I completely agree with you-Pavel's material is really very beautiful(and good, even despite the difficulties with pupation that you wrote about above). smile.gif

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19.10.2010 14:33, Grigory Grigoryev

Here are 4 copies. Hyles.
I believe that from Altai H. exilis
From Tuva-H. costata
And Transbaikalia-Dauria: the female is definitely H. costata, and the male is "strange", a citizen of 2 states, but I would still send him to the female H. costata for permanent registration smile.gif

Grigoriev

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19.10.2010 17:28, chuvilin

Colleagues, I present for information and comparison the holotype of Hyles chuvilini from Fritz Danner, Ulf Eitschberger & Bernhard Surholt "Die Schwarmer der westlichen Palaearktis" 1998.
With the label-Khakassia, Abakan, Red Lake, caterpillar found on milkweed on July 20, 1993. ex larva
Holotypus & Allotypus are in the Ulfa collection, so sorry that the photo is not live )),

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19.10.2010 17:33, chuvilin

I will add that two hus were found, they pupated in Tula and the next year a male and a female hatched

19.10.2010 17:57, rhopalocera.com

Colleagues, I present for information and comparison the holotype of Hyles chuvilini from Fritz Danner, Ulf Eitschberger & Bernhard Surholt "Die Schwarmer der westlichen Palaearktis" 1998.
With the label-Khakassia, Abakan, Red Lake, caterpillar found on milkweed on July 20, 1993. ex larva
Holotypus & Allotypus are in the Ulfa collection, so sorry that the photo is not live )),


pure exilis. no doubt about it.

19.10.2010 19:58, chuvilin

pure exilis. no doubt about it.

Without even looking at the genitals?; -))

19.10.2010 20:07, rhopalocera.com

there are enough images.

20.10.2010 9:39, dim-va

Genitals are not necessary to identify this specimen, this is true, and they are also depicted in Eichberger's book, which confirms its identity with exilis. However, in the Chuvilini taxon (Khakassia), the dark band bend is the most powerful, and thus it differs well from the Chinese-Far Eastern nominative exilis. I am inclined to consider it as a separate subspecies of Hyles exilis chuvilini, stat. nov.

20.10.2010 10:57, rhopalocera.com

+1

20.10.2010 13:10, Papaver

An article about a valid name for the Chuvilin hawk moth in the press (about the name exilis, introduced by Yu. A. Derzhavets), should be published in November.

Где?

20.10.2010 17:43, dim-va

Where?

Neue entomologische Nachrichten
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21.10.2010 8:06, VladN

Excellent representative of the post-Soviet space
Acosmeryx naga hissarica
Uzbekistan, Zap. Hissar Gorge. Sangardak
05.05.2003.

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