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Euphydryas and Melitaea

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Ilia Ustiantcev, 20.09.2007 19:37

Shashechnits are a subfamily of butterflies in the family Nymphalidae. Representatives of two genera fly to MO - Euphydryas and Melitaea: two from the first genus (aurinia and maturna) and six from the second (phoebe, cinxia, aurelia, athalia, diamina and didyma). All of them occur mainly in June. Of all the above, only cinxia, aurelia, and athalia are not listed in the CC of the Ministry of Defense. Everything except Aurelia was photographed in the south of the Orekhovo-Zuyevsky district of the Moscow Region. No more cinxia and didyma - pick up!
Euphydryas aurinia is a red-headed draughtsman. Category 2 in the CC of the Moscow Region.
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Probably one and a half times smaller than the previous ones
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Euphydryas maturna-A large draughtsman. Category 2 in the CC of the Moscow Region.
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Melitaea athalia-Draughtsman Athalia. The most common of our checkers games.
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We need to correct the taxonomy: Athalia and Aurelia belong to the genus Mellicta, while Diamina, which is similar to them, belongs to Melitaea.
http://www.funet.fi/pub/sci/bio/life/insec...inae/index.html

This post was edited by Ilya U-09/20/2007 21: 06

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20.09.2007 19:46, Ilia Ustiantcev

Melitaea aurelia-Aurelian Draughtsman. Fotkal in the Crimea. It is common in the Middle Zone, and there it flies in the mountains, but often. This one was about the size of a pigeon house.
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Melitaea diamina-Diamina Draughtsman. Category 3 in the CC of the Moscow Region.
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Melitaea phoebe-mullein shashechnitsa. Category 3 in the CC of the Moscow Region.
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Day-sized peacock's eye specimen:
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20.09.2007 20:03, Zhuk

Cool! - Why write a category from the CC? For example, E. aurinia-banal.

20.09.2007 20:07, Ilia Ustiantcev

I know it's banal. I think it was brought there because of the extinction event in Moscow. And Phoebus will get 3 undeserved-in my opinion, at least 2 shines for him...

20.09.2007 20:09, AntSkr

Many of the CC's are banal, and many of the non-CC's are rare... Or maybe in the CC data on the distribution of species in the vicinity of some cement plant or something else smile.gif

20.09.2007 20:22, Zhuk

Don't start talking about KK tok!! I'm already tired of it! smile.gif

20.09.2007 20:23, Zhuk

Although I started it myself smile.gif

20.09.2007 20:30, AntSkr

This is an eternal and immortal topic of this forum! smile.gif

20.09.2007 20:52, Pavel Morozov

So, guys, it's good to flood about the Red Book! tongue.gif lol.gif
Melitaea didyma male, Luzhki, Serpukhov district, Moscow region, 23.06.2007.

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20.09.2007 20:53, Pavel Morozov

Melitaea didyma female, Luzhki, Serpukhov district, Moscow region, 23.06.2007.

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20.09.2007 20:54, Pavel Morozov

2 Mellicta atalia and Melitaea didyma
Luzhki, Serpukhov district, Moscow region, 23.06.2007.

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20.09.2007 20:55, Ilia Ustiantcev

And Didyma can be found in the same place as the previous ones? And is cinxia much less common than atalia?

20.09.2007 20:57, Ilia Ustiantcev

Mellicta - is it dark? (Aurelia, Athalia, Diamina, Asteria, etc.) I just believe this taxonomy: http://www.leps.it/

20.09.2007 20:59, Pavel Morozov

Ilya, I have to correct you, we still have the genus Mellicta.
M. didyma is common in the PTZ, it is also found on the Nerskaya. I also caught this butterfly in the Vladimir region at the Red Lighthouse together with Apollo.

Regarding the frequency of occurrence, Mellicta atalia is more common than others.

20.09.2007 21:00, Pavel Morozov

Yes, I forgot to say, Aurelia is common at the Red Lighthouse.

20.09.2007 21:02, Pavel Morozov

Mellicta - is it dark? (Aurelia, Athalia, Diamina, Asteria, etc.) I just believe this taxonomy: http://www.leps.it/

This site is generally trustworthy.

20.09.2007 21:07, Pavel Morozov

Ilya, if it's not a secret, write down the places and dates. Please, very much. shuffle.gif

20.09.2007 21:10, Vlad Proklov

Ilya, I have to correct you, we still have the genus Mellicta.
M. didyma is common in the PTZ, it is also found on the Nerskaya. I also caught this butterfly in the Vladimir region at the Red Lighthouse together with Apollo.

Regarding the frequency of occurrence, Mellicta atalia is more common than others.

Well, it's just now "fashionable" to talk about the genus Melitaea with the subgenera Melitaea and Mellicta. M. diamina, by the way, belongs to the former.

And as for the places - do you make up the CC there? I'm just making maps, so I'd also like to find places of discovery useful...

This post was edited by kotbegemot - 09/20/2007 21: 11

20.09.2007 21:17, Pavel Morozov

Here is kotbegemot about KK. And you, Brutus? lol.gif

20.09.2007 21:17, Ilia Ustiantcev

Place-Antsiferovo-Podosinki stage. Phoebus, Avrinia, Athalia and Diamina are definitely there. Mathurna - I don't know, but I've seen it in other places 1-2 km to the north. Athalia is also found in many places around the stage. I didn't see Phoebe anywhere else, and when I saw Diamina, I might have thought of Athalia, so I don't know. Avrinia can also be found around, but the best place, I repeat, is around the stage. (in some fishing reports, I even showed this place where the road turns away from the railway).
Avrinia - May 27, June 6 and 7. Atalia - June 16. Diamina - June 7. Maturna - May 26, and last year, where my dates are worn out. Phoebes - June 6 and 11. Aurelia was photographed in the boarding house "Izumrud" in the Crimea. (on their website there is a link to Google Maps, where it is shown as a red arrow. July 22.
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20.09.2007 21:24, AntSkr

I caught diamina in Stupinsky district on June 24, 2007 and July 3, 2006...

20.09.2007 21:30, Vlad Proklov

I caught diamina in Stupinsky district on June 24, 2007 and July 3, 2006...

And I'm in 2000m - in Ramenskoye, on both banks of the Moskva River: in Zhukov and Khripani.

20.09.2007 21:32, Pavel Morozov

And I also collected it on the border of the Moscow Region and the Kaluga region (Naro-Fominsky district, Poryadino, 23.06.2006.)

This post was edited by Morozzz - 09/20/2007 21: 32

20.09.2007 21:45, AntSkr

This site is generally trustworthy.

There are a lot of photos on this site of those species that can only be reliably identified in the prepared state. How do they identify, photograph first, and then catch? And do they have the appropriate education?

20.09.2007 21:47, Pavel Morozov

There are a lot of photos on this site of those species that can only be reliably identified in the prepared state. How do they identify, photograph first, and then catch? And do they have the appropriate education?

If the eye is trained, then in flight you will determine.
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20.09.2007 21:49, AntSkr

I mean the genera Leptidea, Pontia, Erebia, etc.? And scoops with moths(I mean hard-to-distinguish species, especially moths)?

This post was edited by AntSkr - 09/20/2007 21: 51

20.09.2007 22:04, Pavel Morozov

With whiteflies-yes, I brought amurensis and morsei from Primorye, but I only noticed at home when I spread out that there were two species.
Pontia - this is still a place to find, so that at least 2 species fly at once smile.gif
It's easier with checkers. For example, I saw diamina for the first time like this - there were almost black specimens among the athalias. This "W-W-W" is not for nothing! he swung the net and caught a diamine.
It's the same at the Red Lighthouse - the athalias are immediately clear-rusty like that, the didyms are bright red, the female didyms are sluggish with a heavier flight immediately attract attention; the Aurelias are darker and, as it seemed to me, more lively; the male phoebes are either checkers or mother - of - pearl; the female phoebes are generally immediately determined.

By the color and shade, by the speed and nature of the flight, by some small things in flight, you can determine not only day, but also night (night is sometimes even easier).
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21.09.2007 6:46, Ilia Ustiantcev

How do you tell a male Phoebus from a female?

21.09.2007 9:19, svm2

As for taxonomy, everything seems to be Melitaea now
http://www.tolweb.org/Melitaea/70305

21.09.2007 13:59, Pavel Morozov

How do you tell a male Phoebus from a female?

the female is both larger and darker.

21.09.2007 15:44, lepidopterolog

I caught diamine (and smile.gifstill do ) on art. Donino Ramenskoye district (Kazanskaya railway station). By the way, two populations of Mellicta britomartis were recently found in the Moscow region - in Stupinsky and Podolsk districts.

This post was edited by lepidopterolog - 09/21/2007 15: 47

21.09.2007 17:37, Ilia Ustiantcev

It's kind of hard to tell them apart from Athalia-Aurelia. Maybe the whole MO of these britomartiss is full...

21.09.2007 17:49, lepidopterolog

No, britomartis is a steppe species. Aurelia is a very rare species in the Moscow region, and you can't confuse it with Atalia britomartis.

21.09.2007 17:53, Vlad Proklov

No, britomartis is a steppe species. Aurelia is a very rare species in the Moscow region, and you can't confuse it with Atalia britomartis.

In the Middle Zone - still forest-steppe: for the Tula region, it is he who is given, and not Aurelia.
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21.09.2007 17:59, Ilia Ustiantcev

And no one has photos of any other Euphydryas and Asteria? and where is the latter found in Russia?

21.09.2007 18:15, Vlad Proklov

And no one has photos of any other Euphydryas and Asteria? and where is the latter found in Russia?

Asteria is found in the Alps - in Russia it does not exist at all.

21.09.2007 18:24, Ilia Ustiantcev

frown.gif frown.gif frown.gif And what is the most similar thread?

22.09.2007 15:15, PG18

And no one has photos of any other Euphydryas and Asteria? and where is the latter found in Russia?

Here are the missing euhydria so far:
Euphydryas davidi
Euphydryas iduna
Euphydryas intermedia

This post was edited by PG18-22.09.2007 16: 15

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22.09.2007 15:17, PG18

Who else in particular?

22.09.2007 15:41, Pavel Morozov

Here, I also dug it up at my place.
It seems that this is also E. davidi, Primorsky Krai, Khasansky district, Andreevka, 23.07.2007.

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