Arctiidae-dippers

And that O. parasita is a rare species? Where is it best to look for it in nature in the spring - steppe areas? K. R. G. ??

? K. R. G. ??

Caterpillar Food Plant is a common abbreviation...

Arctia flavia. Vologda region, Sheksninsky district, Vysokovo village, June 1996

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Dear forumchane!

My Catalog can be purchased from Ulf Eitschberger. But he hasn't sent out the catalog yet. And I haven't seen it yet. I also don't have any prints of the Tinea magazine with the Praephragmatobia review, although I have received information that the magazine is out of print.

Somatrichia (!) parasita seems to be a really rare species. I've only seen big episodes from the Crimea. From the rest of the places, I only saw single instances. It lives, apparently, in steppe areas. Forage plants, I suspect (I did not feed them myself), can serve as obynye for bears-plantain, dandelion, legumes, etc.

Many thanks for the photo Arctia flavia from the Vologda region. Previously known only from Totma, Darwin Nature Reserve, Kovarzino (Kirillovsky district) and Veliky Ustyug. This year, the caterpillar Arctia flavia was photographed by students of V. A. Mutin in the vicinity of Gorny na Miaochan (the caterpillar, alas, was eaten by tahins). This is the third find in the Khabarovsk Territory (previously known from the Shantar Islands and from Nelkan).

V. V. Dubatolov

A. flavia is also available in the Nizhny Novgorod region (Staraya Pustyn). Students are constantly catching them at the university's Biological Station, and I have seen at least 20 of them in the collection at the UNN Zoology Department.

Many thanks for the new point in the Nizhny Novgorod region. From there, Arctia flavia was also known from a female from the Tsvetaevskaya collection (Vakhtan, Shakhun district), as well as from a series of dots published in the posthumous work of S. S. Chetverikov, 1993.

I have a lot of data on many other areas as well. If there are any new points , I would be very grateful.

V. V. Dubatolov

Correct: Shakhunsky district (without a soft sign), although the district center is Shakhunya.
I caught, most likely, flavia in the area of the village of Oshminskoye, Tonshayevsky district, but no specimens were preserved.

Reviyiia V.V.Dubatolova dostupna dla priobreteniia na www.insecta.de, stoit 96 Euro.

Dear forumchane, I inform you the bibliographic data of the catalog (not revisions!) bears of Eurasia:
Dubatolov V.V. 2010 (August). Tiger-moths of Eurasia (Lepidoptera, Arctiidae) (Nyctemerini by Rob de Vos & Vladimir V. Dubatolov) // Neue Entomologische Nachrichten. Marktleuthen. Bd. 65. P. 1-106.

I myself received several of these books recently. Unfortunately, they were quite expensive - 96 euros. Also today, I received a message from Wolfgang Speidel that Witt's catalog of Eurasian bears will not appear in the near future. Updating the list of bear species on my site http://fen.nsu.ru/~vvdubat/Arctiidae/ it will happen in the next few days. But there won't be any details. Details can only be found in the catalog. However, several typos in the Catalog will be corrected in online lists.

Dear forumchane, I inform you the bibliographic data of the catalog (not revisions!) bears of Eurasia:
Dubatolov V.V. 2010 (August). Tiger-moths of Eurasia (Lepidoptera, Arctiidae) (Nyctemerini by Rob de Vos & Vladimir V. Dubatolov) // Neue Entomologische Nachrichten. Marktleuthen. Bd. 65. P. 1-106.

So where can I buy the book? I need a copy. On www.insecta.de I didn't find it. Can I have it here?

there is it on insecta.de. there is a search bar at the bottom. enter Dubatlolov - will find it there. The Germans incorrectly put the surname

Also today, I received a message from Wolfgang Speidel that Witt's catalog of Eurasian bears will not appear in the near future. Updating the list of bear species on my site http://fen.nsu.ru/~vvdubat/Arctiidae/ it will happen in the next few days. But there won't be any details. Details can only be found in the catalog. However, several typos in the Catalog will be corrected in online lists.

In the near future, how much is it? Roughly, a month, half a year, a year or more? What other book would you recommend to buy on the Arctic of Eurasia, including lichens? Thank you in advance for your help.

More than a year 100%. There are no books on the bears of Eurasia. There are dippers in the series of de Freina and Witt, there are dippers of the USSR Murzin (not the fountain). There are bears that are Black (with minuses).

More than a year 100%. There are no books on the bears of Eurasia. There are dippers in the series of de Freina and Witt, there are dippers of the USSR Murzin (not the fountain). There are bears that are Black (with minuses).

Yes, there are specialists, but there is no normal book. I wonder why. Can't or won't share knowledge ?

And find a book where there is data on a certain group in Eurasia? I only know a book on scoops. And the first issues of the Witt Catalog. Vladimir Viktorovich has released a catalog on Eurasia - this is already the first and very powerful step towards creating large-scale illustrated books. To write a book on a particular group in the scope of Eurasia is a huge task. That's why they don't exist.

Dear forumchane! I was sent only a few books, and almost all of them go to the required addresses, stay only at work and at home (so as not to drag back and forth). So a big request is to purchase this book in Germany. Please excuse me.

I have already sent new files for the site to the administrator today. Now it all depends on him-when he puts it out. He asked me to hurry up. So I leave the joke of the Novel on his conscience.

Books on the bears of Eurasia are not doing well. I wanted to illustrate my catalog with color photos of each taxon, but I couldn't get permission from the European holders of some collections. And I had photos of about 95% of all taxa! So we'll have to wait for Witt's dipper catalog to be released. This is about the remark "there are specialists, but there is no normal book.." Now, if someone had funded the publication of such a book, they would have sat down to write it. It's all about money. I can't publish this at my own expense. This, as well as the speed of publication, was the reason for my request to Ulf to publish a catalog of Palearctic bears from him, for which I am very grateful! Before that, we planned to make a catalog of world dippers with one American, and publish it in Apollo; I wrote my part, but then he stopped responding to emails.

By the way, for most families, the territory of the Oriental region has not yet been almost completely revised. So far, experts can write books ONLY on the territory of the former USSR. There is material and accumulated work on this territory. But this is a large part of the Palearctic. By the way, I will note that the fauna of China is much (!) richer than the fauna of the former USSR, and even richer than the fauna of the ENTIRE Palearctic. So it's hard work to write qualifiers or atlases for Eurasia.

In the meantime, I can recommend the following books:
Murzin on the former USSR (in my opinion, the types are defined correctly there, although I don't have a book, I only have a copier - thanks to Roman!);
Fang Cenglai. Fauna Sinica. Arctiidae. 2000. This is her last book, and my grandmother is already retired. I don't remember any special blunders there (except for what was revised much later, for example, Nannoarctia). I constantly use it myself;
de Freina and Witt (and now, in my opinion, it is sold), but there you need to pay attention to the new synonymy from my catalog;
but in the book on Thailand by Cherny and Pinratama there are significant errors, especially in Callindra (=Callimorpha in East Asia);
I highly recommend Kishida's work: About Nepal (Moths of Nepal) and the following:
Kishida, Y. (2004a): Fascinated by the beauty of Tiger Moth (1). – Yadoriga 200: 2-30, Tokyo.
Kishida, Y. (2004b): Fascinated by the beauty of Tiger Moth (2). – Yadoriga 202: 2-24, Tokyo.
Kishida, Y. (2008): Fascinated by the beauty of Tiger Moth (3). – Yadoriga 217: 53-58, Tokyo.
They contain many beautiful photos of bears, including East Asian ones.
BUT: it is better to refer to revisions! If you are interested in the list of my revisions, see the website of the Institute of Animal Systematics and Ecology SB RAS, Siberian Zoological Museum Laboratory. But, unfortunately, I am not the owner there now, I don't even know the specific addresses of the pages, and my latest works are not there.

With lichens, things are very bad. A lot of things haven't been revised at all yet. If people approve , I will try to create a website over the winter with photos of lichens on the territory of the former USSR and, if any, photos of male genitals. So I'm waiting for your reaction.

I just received a message from the administrator fen.nsu.ru: the files will be uploaded in the evening, Novosibirsk time.

what's the joke?
I meant that there is no illustrated book on bears. While. And your work is very important, and I think that the publishers of further books will be spared from the mass of errors you have analyzed.
Witt's dipper catalog will be published in a year or two at the earliest... So far, your catalog is the most up-to-date summary. And I think that it is of excellent quality. I saw it myself for about 5 minutes in ZINA, unfortunately...

This post was edited by Yakovlev - 05.12.2010 11: 04

I meant that "more than a year 100%" about updating the lists of bears on the site http://fen.nsu.ru/~vvdubat/Arctiidae/

Unfortunately, there were several typos in the catalog, for which I apologize to everyone. The largest (today I found two) were among Nyctemerini (although there were no typos in the original version), which was rightfully offended by de Vos. Also albidior in Creatonotos has been mentioned twice, as a species and as a synonym of C. leucanioides. Ulf forgot to delete the first one.
I tried to fix everything in the lists on fen.nsu.ru/~vvdubatolov/Arctiidae/

But what books are there without typos? This requires at least two or three proofs! And then, the probability of typos remains.

I just received a message from the administrator fen.nsu.ru -files with lists of bears of the Palearctic, Oriental region+Australia+Oceania, as well as the Afrotropics are already laid out.

  
Books on the bears of Eurasia are not doing well. I wanted to illustrate my catalog with color photos of each taxon, but I couldn't get permission from the European holders of some collections. And I had photos of about 95% of all taxa! So we'll have to wait for Witt's dipper catalog to be released. This is about the remark "there are specialists, but there is no normal book.."

Did I understand correctly that the catalog ended up not fully illustrated?

Website on lichens-hooray!

Unfortunately, this is true - the catalog was released without photos. But this is a catalog! Otherwise it would have been called the atlas, or illustrated catalog.

I will think about the determinant-atlas of lichens and work on it. Although, perhaps, at first I will do it not in the form of a website, but in the form of an article in the Amur Zoological Journal. This journal has PDFs of its articles in the public domain. That's what the editor guarantees me. So the determinant will be available. In general, as soon as I finish with the definition of the material of 2010, I will deal with the determinant of lichens.

Forumchane, please advise, where now in Russia (or even in Europe, where you can transfer money) you can buy decent entomological pins at a reasonable price? And then they run out... By April, they will be very much needed!

http://www.entosphinx.cz/_CZ/EU/ - it's in the Czech Republic, they send it by mail
http://www.entomon.ru/online/ And this is in Russia

I meant that "more than a year 100%" about updating the lists of bears on the site http://fen.nsu.ru/~vvdubat/Arctiidae/

And Yakovlev probably meant"... that Witt's catalog of Eurasian bears won't be available anytime soon." Although it's not for me to judge what the others meant

Dear forumchane! Thank you so much for the links to pin ordering sites!

Now I sat down to make a list of lichens to estimate the amount and time of work on the lichen detector. It turned out that I didn't have some material... I am particularly interested in THE following FROM THE TERRITORY OF Russia:
does anyone have the following types of finds:
Nudaria mundana - from European Russia;
Paidia conjuncta - from European Russia;
Eilema pygmaeolum-exclusively from the Caucasus and Transcaucasia;
Eilema minor from Primorye;
Eilema morosinum - from the Caucasus and Transcaucasia;
as well as ANY material on lichens (except Setina irrorella) from North-Eastern Siberia and Wrangel Island. I don't have two Chistyakovsky species: Eilema nigrocollare and Eilema hyalinofuscatum, and I can't get a photo of Chistyakovs...

This is necessary for the determinant. I need photos of butterflies and their labels, as well as photos of their genitals. Who can - please help! The rest seems to be there.

This post was edited by vvdubatolov - 09.12.2010 09: 29

From the latest purchases of Sphinx pins (did they start making them in China!?) we REALLY didn't like the small numbers - they bend! Previously, the metal of pins such as Morpho was much better (springy). What should I do?

I have been typing an article on Penza dippers for a long time, everything is fine (I can't catch some species like O. parasita myself), but problems with lichens always pop up and the case stops again... So let's wait for the atlas-determinant of lichens!

Vladimir Viktorovich, please - if you are aware of the collection of dippers and lichens from the territory of the Penza region, please let me know! Thank you in advance! If you are interested in material from the Penza Region, you are welcome.

Soon I will bring material from Mongolia and some Altai. In the European part there are no lichens at all

For Penzyak:
Many thanks for the information about Sphinx thin pins. Where can I get passable ones? It is necessary to prick the micro on the Lower Amur. I would like to get to the field.

I know most of the materials on the Penza Region from Shlykov's article in Entomological Review and his own collections submitted to the ZIN. It seems to me extremely unlikely that Somatrichia parasita (I already wrote - not Ocnogyna!) will be found in the Penza region, which is too northern for this species. The old most northern directions (Samara province on the banks of the Volga) and Saratov have not yet been confirmed by specific collections, especially since the borders of the provinces were then completely different from what the regions are now. The only reliable point for today in the south-east of European Russia is Kamyshin in the Volgograd region, Melnikova village. Previously, it was the territory of the Saratov province, and labels from Saratov could refer to it. I do not know any other indications of the presence of Somatrichia parasita in Russia...

Are there any new finds of bears in the Penza region compared to Shlykov's collections?

As for the determinant of lichens, I will have to somewhat disappoint. The most complex European species can be determined solely by their genitals... The definition of European banals can be found in the excellent book by de Freina and Witt (1987). I already took a picture (it's a pity, but my camera is not very good right now, the photos don't turn out brilliant...) all the Russian lichens I have. I'll try to make a website with photos of the appearance over the weekend. Then, as I take pictures, I will post photos of lichen genitals.

By the way, we still need to find Eilema pseudocomplanum in European Russia... So far, I've only seen it from the Crimea (I was determining the material for a book on Crimea) and Turkey. But this species can be found all over the south of European Russia, for which I have almost no material on lichens.

A big request to all forumchanam, who will use my atlas-determinant, to inform me about new and most interesting finds of lichens.

When I get home from Berlin , I'll put this year's Nizhny Novgorod lichens in the razmochku. There will be photos. If necessary, I can also send you some of the fees. There are also some lichens from the Saratov and Astrakhan regions.

For Penzyak:
Many thanks for the information about Sphinx thin pins. Where can I get passable ones? It is necessary to prick the micro on the Lower Amur. I would like to get to the field.

For mikra, Sphinx nulls are quite suitable. It is at dvuhnulevok recently the tips began to bend sometimes, which is often why the material breaks when you try, for example, to pin the label - the pin does not stick, but just sharply springs to the side At nulevok this was not noticed.

Yes, for a minute it is necessary to prick a trifle =)

Yes, for a minute it is necessary to prick a trifle =)

this is for aesthetes )) and for ordinary researchers - nulevki! once there in the field with these minutsii kolupatsya

I totally agree: it's hard to mess around in the field with minutes, and at home you need to cut styrofoam. For a minute, I only prick what you can't pin on ordinary pins, for example, Nepticulidae...

All weekend (even from Friday) I work hard on the lichen website. Along the way, all sorts of problems are revealed: I forgot to take a picture of something, some names need to be rechecked. So on Monday, around 11 am Novosibirsk time, I will launch only the unfinished version, but it will also be possible to determine a lot from it. Then I will correct it. I'll give you the address as soon as I see that the site files are on the server. One problem is that some things are still in print, but I will make adjustments on the site after the work is published.

I don't have the lichens you need.
I have already written, but I can repeat that I regularly catch Pelosia obtusa at my dacha in the Orekhovo-Zuyevsky district of the Moscow region.

Many thanks for the data on Pelosia obtusa. Moscow seems to be the central part of the area.

Unlikely to be needed, but what if? Here I posted bears and lichens caught this July in Primorye : http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...=150&p=1138553#

Dear forumchane! Today, from 11 o'clock Novosibirsk time, the lichen website is open at:
http://fen.nsu.ru/~vvdubat/Lithosiinae/Lithosiinaelist.html
Watch and use it!

Please excuse me: not everything on the site is finished, you need to take some photos (for example, Eilema vetustum), as well as finish the Eilema affineolum-nankingicum-tsinlingicum group. I will try to do this in the next few days, but I will add photos of lichen genitals in the coming weeks.

Regarding distribution in Ukraine by their own copies.

Th. senex-not only the north, but also the center-Cherkasy region (08.07.81, - Smela, 17.07.09-Chubiivka), and also near Kiev is found (17.07.10-Obukhov, 29.06.98-Yagotyn).
P.obtusa-Ц. Ukraine-Smela, Cherkasy region, 02.08.77
P. muscerda-common on the Gum near Kiev-this is more of a center