Concept of development of protected areas of the Russian Federation until 2020

That is why it is worth learning to theorize, and not to chase after empirical particulars on a fundamental issue.

I don't deny the existence of conspiracies, of course, but I need reliable sources of information about them. I do not trust the media at my disposal, which consists mainly of the mass media, and, unfortunately, I do not have access to the materials of the FSB and the CIA. There are materials from historians, but the degree of trust in them becomes sufficient only after a certain time. In general, you need to wait 20-30 years and not rush to detect and analyze the current conspiracies.
As for the creation of nature reserves, I don't really care what the motives of their "organizers"were. The motives go away, the result remains. Western environmental organizations and foundations promote the creation of these reserves in Russia, I believe, only out of their own "corporate" interests. They need to report on the results of their work. Otherwise, the sponsors will leave them. Creating a nature reserve is the result. In overpopulated Europe and most other countries, creating a new protected area is extremely difficult. The land is either private or highly fragmented by cities, roads, etc. In Russia, there are many "empty" lands, state subordination. It is much easier to create a nature reserve here. So they took and gave almost a third of the Khasansky district of Primorye under the leopard reserve. Because the territory is practically unpopulated. It belongs to no one but the state. And who initiated it? Various foreign environmental organizations. And domestic ones. But the main voice of "Save the Leopard!" was "from there." And if it did not exist, the reserve would hardly have appeared. Following the conspiracy theory, we can, of course, say that they only sought to withdraw from the economic turnover of part of the territory of the Russian Federation, because "the smaller the economy and more wild spaces in it, the better." I believe it is a simple "reporting" for the foreign environmental community. We have succeeded in creating a nature reserve. We really protect leopards! Continue to sponsor. It's a rough scheme, of course, there are a lot of sincere nature conservation enthusiasts in these funds, but I think so.

This post was edited by Wild Yuri - 09.12.2012 12: 37

In the end, the time will come when the presence of such "protected" territories will threaten humanity! Even so, because if we take into account that the population will grow, then new territories will be needed. For a wide variety of purposes.
This is unavoidable, unless of course for some reason depopulation occurs.

So it's all very ephemeral. in addition, the reserve is essentially only a fragment of a once huge ecosystem, especially for Europe. This is no longer a mirror of the former biodiversity, it is a fragment that almost does not reflect what was before.
Various types of influence, including indirect influence, are growing on such territories.
Therefore, it is logical to assume that" reserved " will soon remain only the land, but they will then be mastered by civilization.
This is an inevitability)))
Some 50 years ago, many places chirped steppe fatties and flew Appolons.
In 50 years, the last pigeon will lay its eggs on an astragalus protruding from the unfinished pit of the last beam, which has not yet been converted into a pond.
And in a hundred years, young naturalists and seasoned professionals will only visit a virtual holographic reserve.

Well, or suddenly SOMETHING happens, and nature will return all its territories, but there will be no one to visit them for the purpose of observation and study! Except for feral hunters and gatherers with a piece of rebar as a spear

Hierophis,
I agree with everything you just wrote. But this is not a reason to stop protecting nature. Because in the same 50 years, someone can study the biology of this pigeon before it becomes extinct. Yes, the chance is probably not very big, but it is there. For all non-extinct species. Otherwise, there will be nothing to virtualize in virtual reserves of the XXII century - the current level of knowledge about insects is too low for realistic modeling of ecosystems with their participation. Is that Antarctic

Yes, but I still think that it is necessary not only to continue protecting what is there, it is already obvious.
The main thing is that you need to study, and this is where the most active actions are needed in theory.
But here there may be bureaucratic obstacles, and even purely proprietary ones, associated with these very protected areas, and cottages near them and on their territories.
Not to mention the fact that there is no one to study much - most of them are amateurs, cut off from scientific realities, and drowning in everyday problems, those who sit on the throne of science, in the official warm chair, stupidly imitate activities, those who want to sit down-probably do something else, but what they encounter in the course of his scientific work, he either transforms them into scientific sedaks in chairs, or forces them to leave.
So here, too , is of little use

It remains only to go wander and take pictures while they give and have something

Now you can't even go to the area where the leopard sanctuary is located. I used to catch butterflies there. There are disadvantages for individual individuals.

...As for the creation of nature reserves, I don't really care what the motives of their "organizers"were. The motives go away, the result remains. Western environmental organizations and foundations promote the creation of these reserves in Russia, I believe, only out of their own "corporate" interests. They need to report on the results of their work. Otherwise, the sponsors will leave them. Creating a nature reserve is the result. ...In Russia, there are many "empty" lands, state subordination. It is much easier to create a nature reserve here. So they took and gave almost a third of the Khasansky district of Primorye under the leopard reserve. Because the territory is practically unpopulated. It belongs to no one but the state. And who initiated it? Various foreign environmental organizations. And domestic ones. But the main voice of "Save the Leopard!" was "from there." And if it did not exist, the reserve would hardly have appeared. Following the conspiracy theory, we can, of course, say that they only sought to withdraw from the economic turnover of part of the territory of the Russian Federation, because "the smaller the economy and more wild spaces in it, the better." I believe it is a simple "reporting" for the foreign environmental community. We have succeeded in creating a nature reserve. We really protect leopards! Continue to sponsor. It's a rough scheme, of course, there are a lot of sincere nature conservation enthusiasts in these funds, but I think so.

It's all right, it's fine. And perhaps it is also important-an extra reason not to let the citizens of the great southern neighbor go there, they will take out the leopard, and the surrounding forests, and take root there themselves.
But if some overseas gavnodav starts shouting from the UN rostrum that Russia does not fulfill its obligations to preserve the leopard, and it is necessary to introduce "observers", or even "sanctions" - this means that the good cause has once again created a clue for the Atlantean fascists. This does not need a leopard, but its reduction, as an excuse for sticking its long nose.

Many Chinese "wandered" in those forests at the beginning of Perestroika. A familiar policeman from Zanadvorovka said that the handcuffs were not enough during the capture - they were tied with a rope and led in a caravan, like slaves in ancient times. Some of the Chinese were "quietly" shot by border guards. Now there are almost no" forest " Chinese in the region. Their standard of living has increased dramatically, there are many places where you can get a job, and they rarely climb into the taiga. There is now more danger from local poachers and overhunting, which reduces the animal's food supply.

Conspiracy theories are not a bogeyman, but a well-established term.

"Conspiracy theories" is not a term, but a well-established (and even stuck in the teeth) bogeyman.

There should be a concept behind the term, and a "conspiracy theory" is called (even here the conversation began with that) everything that indicates not the reasons that someone wants to expose as real, but the real ones that someone wants to hide. We all know, for example, that the same camp that passes off Operation Perestroika as the "disintegration" of the Soviet system, despite the world's multi-trillion-dollar expenditures, instantly forgets its dislike for the "conspiracy theory" as soon as it comes to the one prepared by decades of the revolutionary movement (including two revolutions) The October Revolution, and starts babbling about " German money." At the same time, the love of empirical facts also floats-it is there, it is not there. And only what works for a specific interest is considered reliable and verifiable.

This post was edited by A. J. Elez - 09.12.2012 21: 08

In summary, so as not to be misunderstood or misunderstood again , I support any long-term biotope conservation initiatives; the global background is secondary if such conservation is successfully achieved.

Evgeny, thank you for the detailed justification of the position; but this neutron-bombardment position, as you may have noticed, I immediately "correctly and completely understood"; but did you understand it? Everything is so nice and coherent that if I were an apple ecologist (or a ground beetle as the main concern of society), I would subscribe to every word. But we need one more step deeper from it, because it is precisely in it that we do not yet see the forest for trees - not only because of theorizing, but because of the lack of theory, from empiricism, which inspires us that " the global background is secondary "(opanki!). With the support of "any enterprises for the long-term conservation of biotopes", we will arrive at the same thing that we would have arrived at, say, with the equally" noble " (for empirical consciousness) goal of supporting any activities to increase funding for sports, art, etc. P. In fact, as in that joke: Sarah, who was bothered by all this? But there are priorities in real politics, and none of the specific tasks can be solved in the long run if these priorities are not correctly aligned. In the long run, even biotopes will not benefit. The social consequences of such a low-priority strategy may even blow up the planet in the future, along with well-preserved biotopes. Arrange here at least the current Egypt on the scale of the Russian Federation, and perhaps we will only be glad that the patient before his death at least sweated well, clean pores. The" global background " will sooner or later kick humanity in the head not at all because of what good biotopes imperialism has preserved in someone else's garden, but at least because of the living conditions of those masses whose hump the bourgeoisie noisily cherishes these biotopes for itself, but in the case of the smell of fried food it may well take with it to the grave. Even the UN figures show the ground for such movements: for example, the annual extinction of millions of children under the age of 5 in the world. And one of the epistemological prerequisites for the transformation of a scientific intellectual into an enemy of the people in history was that for an object of his own interest, an intellectual was ready to pay any price at the expense of society ("support any activities"), considering that the main thing in the world is what is specially interesting to him (butterflies, nuclear physics, genetics, painting poetry, etc.), and against the background of the fact that in order to improve the life of humanity, the ruling class does not allow even a percentage of what is really possible and should be done, "support any measures" to preserve the biotope of a particular species....lice. Is it good in 19th-century India to say that the main thing for you is to have more good European architecture in India?.. "Any enterprise" to restore order in someone else's garden is called colonization (today, however, it is often called "mopping up", i.e. clearing the biotope of people-what is not "any event" to protect meadow grasses from haymaking and overgrazing?), and this is the soil of those movements that can eventually become a fire roller walk through both people and biotopes with their flora and fauna.

So it is better to take care of even the future not within the length of your nose; believe me, theorists are no less dear to mother nature than empiricists. And there is nothing to say about the current moment. You can only allow another person to get into your sovereign pocket for the very good purpose of knocking the dust out of your pocket if you are a (neo)colony or occupied territory in relation to this other person. Your expression "any events" does not exclude (neo -) colonial and (pre -)and we all know that both natural and historical monuments, alas, do not stand aside when the natives lose their patience and they begin to implement our old slogan "the earth will burn under the feet of the invaders".

I don't deny the existence of conspiracies, of course, but I need reliable sources of information about them.

Google to help!

I do not trust the media at my disposal, which consists mainly of the mass media, and, unfortunately, I do not have access to the materials of the FSB and the CIA. There are materials from historians, but the degree of trust in them becomes sufficient only after a certain time. In general, you need to wait 20-30 years and not rush to detect and analyze the current conspiracies.

And in 200 years, we will fill ourselves up with the truth in general. Just don't disappear sooner. So it is better to try to study the laws of history today, without wasting time in empiricism, this will help, because the last half-century has not given us anything fundamentally new. Documents can be forged (this has long been known), but you can't fake the logic of history.

As for the creation of nature reserves, I don't really care what the motives of their "organizers"were. The motives go away, the result remains.

Oh, right? It depends on what the motives are in a particular case. There are such motives (by the way, the most fundamental and defining ones) that just remain for centuries and millennia, surviving even landscapes, and not just any protected areas. The "results" go away, but the owner's motive remains the same. In order to avoid historical surprises, from which the environment will not be left out, it is high time to take a closer look at this motif.

But the main voice of "Save the Leopard!" was "from there." And if it did not exist, the reserve would hardly have appeared. Following the conspiracy theory, we can, of course, say that they only sought to withdraw from the economic turnover of part of the territory of the Russian Federation, because "the smaller the economy and more wild spaces in it, the better." I believe it is a simple "reporting" for the foreign environmental community. We have succeeded in creating a nature reserve. We really protect leopards! Continue to sponsor. It's a rough scheme, of course, there are a lot of sincere nature conservation enthusiasts in these funds, but I think so.

"From there" they always knew how to vote, they don't need to be taught this business; in history, who just wasn't "saved" in foreign countries, for example, Sudeten Germans (what about Russian leopards); where did that country go as a result?.. Not all the connections are so obvious and simple, and no one says that the land under the leopard is an object of direct expansion. But the fact that the preservation of the natural environment in foreign countries is either an end in itself, or is made by the world's "sponsor" not for its own long-term benefit, but for the sake of those countries or the whole of humanity (he sincerely does not care about either), - a myth is more powerful than any "conspiracy theory".

The motives of the" organizers " of nature reserves are not important to me either, as long as the performers are meant; history has heard about these motives more than once in hindsight: "We were following orders." You write: "Simple" reporting " for the foreign environmental community... Keep sponsoring." So it would not hurt to ask just the motives (so that later the native society would not be surprised by another historical surprise out of the blue, after" they " had defended our leopard so well for years) - but precisely the motives of the sponsors, and not of corrupt or honest activists. Why Hitler was sponsored, history knows, especially Soviet history. History also knows why they sponsor two-legged vociferous leopards in competing countries: of course, so that we can live richer, more democratic and more free here, and compete more strongly with them. Yes, any "conspiracy theory" is a hundred times less naive than the dogma of faith in the care of "sponsors" about pigeons or than hiding their heads in the sand in the manner of a bribe taker's wife, who prefers not to think about where and why money is taken in the house before the cops arrive.

Your words about "conspiracy theory", Yuri, once again confirm my idea that this is not a term, but a bogey, applied not in a certain rigid sense, but to what is more profitable. After all, your version smacks more of a" conspiracy", which almost reduces the matter to the" reporting " of environmentalists, is correct within its limits, but naive in explaining the phenomenon as a whole, in searching for the real causes, because it does not raise the question of what is the use of all this to the sponsor, who will not throw away a penny just for the sake of another. For the world's ostentation? With their and our social problems, it is ridiculous to hope to console our own or our starving people, deceived real estate investors, flood victims, etc.with the victorious march of a leopard across the Far East. You can comfort a couple of well-fed people who are already happy, with or without a leopard; but you can only make a dozen hungry people angry. But the "version" that only the richest person can seriously sponsor fighters for the leopard is not a "conspiracy theory", but simple common sense. And for the "version" of the existence of competition under capitalism. And for the "version" that the rich man does not invest money just like that, especially in someone else's business. That sponsorship is only a form of profitable investment (although sometimes with indirect benefits that are not noticeable to the empiricist eye) is an economic ABC, and not a "conspiracy theory"at all. With small fry, everything is so simple, but it is necessary to understand and take into account the motives of the sponsor. There is a thing in history that likes to creep up unnoticed, and comes first of all for those who, without delving into any theories there and without being interested in historical analogies known even to a schoolboy, wait for decades and centuries when all the certified documents are dumped on the table confirming that their strategic competitors are really not about they baked the purity of the universe, and out of pure economic self-interest they prepared this very thing for him...

Many Chinese "wandered" in those forests at the beginning of Perestroika. A familiar policeman from Zanadvorovka said that the handcuffs were not enough during the capture - they were tied with a rope and led in a caravan, like slaves in ancient times. Some of the Chinese were "quietly" shot by border guards. Now there are almost no" forest " Chinese in the region. Their standard of living has increased dramatically, there are many places where you can get a job, and they rarely climb into the taiga. There is now more danger from local poachers and overhunting, which reduces the animal's food supply.

Something I don't understand, Yuri: the food base of what "beast"? Surely not the Chinese, which is why there are fewer of them now? After all, it is clearly not about the border guards, but more from the message you will not understand about whom...

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This post was edited by Penzyak - 12/10/2012 10: 39

Something I don't understand, Yuri: the food base of what "beast"? Surely not the Chinese, which is why there are fewer of them now? After all, it is clearly not about the border guards, but more from the message you will not understand about whom...

The leopard base. From wild boars and roe deer...

As for the motives, environmental funds just make money. To spend "on yourself". Many. I can't speak for everyone. Well, the sponsors are different, there are many sincere ones who help preserve nature, like DiCaprio (I believe that he is a good person), various other actors, singers, etc. Oil companies pay "pay-offs"so that the public does not torment them for destroying nature. And there are probably sponsors with some political goals. But I don't know about it. No information available. And, by the way, what can be the political benefits of creating a leopard sanctuary? I can't think of anything... I don't think they're here. The funds just earned money and fame. When they demand the creation of nature reserves in oil and gas production areas, there may indeed be political interests involved. Russia should be "frozen" in its development. But go and prove what they think and mean in these funds. It is necessary to introduce FSB agents into these funds. Putin and Patrushev once clapped hands...

Now director of the FSB Bortnikov. But Patrushev clapped.

As for the motives, environmental funds just make money. To spend "on yourself". Many. I can't speak for everyone. Well, the sponsors are different, there are many sincere ones who help preserve nature, like DiCaprio (I believe that he is a good person), various other actors, singers, etc. Oil companies pay "pay-offs"so that the public does not torment them for destroying nature. And there are probably sponsors with some political goals. But I don't know about it. No information available. And, by the way, what can be the political benefits of creating a leopard sanctuary? I can't think of anything... I don't think they're here. The funds just earned money and fame. When they demand the creation of nature reserves in oil and gas production areas, there may indeed be political interests involved. Russia should be "frozen" in its development. But go and prove what they think and mean in these funds. It is necessary to introduce FSB agents into these funds. Putin and Patrushev once clapped hands...

I remember there was a good apolitical ecologist named MacArthur, and he left his money to sponsor environmentalists. At the beginning of perestroika, this fund helped many people a little. In particular, I. V. Shmytova, a resident of Kaluga, was able to publish a brochure on rare butterflies of the Kaluga Region (2001) thanks to his grant. A year later, when I poked my head into the foundation for a grant for the collection "Biological Diversity of the Tula Region...", I was told that from this year the foundation sponsors a different topic. Later I found out - something related to "human rights".
And similarly, the Embassy of the Netherlands helped our environmentalists through their Ministry of Agriculture. I went there and filled out an application for a grant for the same " Biodiversity...", was encouraged, but a month later I received an answer that now the grants go "for other purposes". I didn't find out which ones.
Those. atlantofascist funds first give harmless small grants to anyone who is not too lazy to write an application. And at the command of the" uncrowned kings " of America, they switch to sponsoring subversive activities. In this case, this is switching (in the MacArthur Foundation - AGAINST THE WILL OF THE FOUNDATION'S CREATOR! He did not create the fund for "human rights", but purely for the environment) happened a year after the EBN left - his receiver quickly did not like it. So Patrushev was aware of what these funds are for - and who is now supposed to know, too. But only now there is a good reason to expel these funds and press their paid agents to the nail.
By the way, where is this leopard sanctuary? Maybe it can be used to pump oil to China? And if it is on the Pacific coast , then there may be restrictions on the deployment of coastal defense and air defense forces, i.e. - providing a springboard for a naval amphibious operation. And the presence of foreign environmentalists there is a guarantee of installing sensors for targeting aircraft, especially UAVs and cruise missiles, as well as tracking the movement of troops.
It all depends on the location of the reserve and its area! But you don't have to be Patrushev or Bortnikov to understand this - this is at the level of understanding of the head of security of a small enterprise.

NATURE IS OUR MOTHER.

I remember that when I was young, my parents exiled me to the village of Novaya Yesineevka for the whole summer... no, my childhood was not barefoot, but in sneakers, old faded jeans and a faded sleeveless shirt... Central Russian nature, open space and grace... we swam on the river Vareshka, which is south of the village.... mushrooms were collected in forests and pine forests... berries in meadow ravines.... we were fishing in the river...
So in one remote place it was often possible to see a gray-haired grandfather Ivan on the bank of a pool with a battery of fishing rods...he caught a very decent fish... he knew everything about her... sitting all covered in smoke from a goat's foot and in a swarm of mosquitoes and midges... contemplates nature... my grandfather had a difficult fate... the war, his yesterday's kid is being mobilized into the army... fleeting and heavy fighting in the fall of ' 41, confusion, losses... concussion, captivity... and camps... the young, strong body of the barefoot podpask miraculously survived... our camps came again... the bitch surrendered to the fascists... work for your homeland... and ten more years of the Siberian gulag...
he came back an old man... collective farm for the sticks of workdays... he married a young woman who was blind from birth... he built a hut on the edge of the village... nature, forest, meadows, river... what else is needed to heal emotional wounds...
In general, for us guys, a person with a difficult fate, but an excellent connoisseur of nature... a careful and diligent owner...
How many years have passed, I served in the army, in August I took a vacation at the institute and in the village to visit my grandparents... hunting, fishing, mushrooms, firewood, potatoes. kitchen-garden... babble. Once on the river I saw a strange structure in the bushes... the river in a narrow area was blocked by a palisade and in the center there is a top... aha marriages... I was not too lazy to cut down the shaft and broke the dastardly trap... I broke it and threw it over the roof... I asked around with some rare fishermen... it turned out that after the death of the old people, his distant relative, a criminal and a scoundrel, now lives in Grandfather Ivan's hut... never worked for the state for a day... only steal, take what is bad and predate in nature.... many years have passed... the village is depopulated, hay meadows and the floodplain of the river are overgrown with impenetrable willows.... the old people were almost gone... only summer residents live in the summer... the ravine with berries is overgrown with pine forest... nature is slowly but surely reclaiming the earth from man...

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and many others, including the Saudi sheikhs, who, at the behest of Washington, dropped world oil prices to a critical level for the Soviet economy after Gorbachev came to power in the CPSU (another could have reacted to economic difficulties not to the detriment of the USSR).

What has always frightened me about conspiracy theorists and conspiracy theorists is the desire to fit facts to their versions, combined with an extremely superficial idea of the subject of reflection. Excuse me, but Washington and the Saudi princes decided to drop oil prices in 1980-81. For a perfectly understandable prosaic reason - in connection with the entry of Soviet troops into Afghanistan. Such an asymmetric answer was thought up. And oil prices collapsed after 81 years, almost reaching a minimum by 1985. But I can assure you that neither the American leadership nor the Saudi princes had any idea in 1981 that Mikhail Gorbachev would become General Secretary in the USSR in 1985.

"Those who believe in conspiracy theories simply never tried to organize the departure of ten families for a picnic."

"From there" they always knew how to vote, they don't need to be taught this business; in history, who just wasn't "saved" in foreign countries, for example, Sudeten Germans (what about Russian leopards); where did that country go as a result?.. Not all the connections are so obvious and simple, and no one says that the land under the leopard is an object of direct expansion. But the fact that the preservation of the natural environment in foreign countries is either an end in itself, or is made by the world's "sponsor" not for its own long-term benefit, but for the sake of those countries or the whole of humanity (he sincerely does not care about either), - a myth is more powerful than any "conspiracy theory".

The motives of the" organizers " of nature reserves are not important to me either, as long as the performers are meant; history has heard about these motives more than once in hindsight: "We were following orders." You write: "Simple" reporting " for the foreign environmental community... Keep sponsoring." So it would not hurt to ask just the motives (so that later the native society would not be surprised by another historical surprise out of the blue, after" they " had defended our leopard so well for years) - but precisely the motives of the sponsors, and not of corrupt or honest activists. Why Hitler was sponsored, history knows, especially Soviet history. History also knows why they sponsor two-legged vociferous leopards in competing countries: of course, so that we can live richer, more democratic and more free here, and compete more strongly with them. Yes, any "conspiracy theory" is a hundred times less naive than the dogma of faith in the care of "sponsors" about pigeons or than hiding their heads in the sand in the manner of a bribe taker's wife, who prefers not to think about where and why money is taken in the house before the cops arrive.

But even if the West finances the creation of a nature reserve with the insidious goal of destroying the Russian land, then this, by all rights, is not a reason to abandon the creation of nature reserves and start exterminating the Far Eastern leopard.
The German General Staff financed the Bolsheviks with the goal of getting one of their opponents out of the war and winning this war. However, Germany lost the war, and the Bolsheviks (using German money) seized power in Russia and created a fully functional state. Can we do the same with nature reserves? While it is profitable for us to use the help of the West in protecting our nature? Think of course about the true goals of the West.

.. Excuse me, but Washington and the Saudi princes decided to drop oil prices in 1980-81. For a perfectly understandable prosaic reason - in connection with the entry of Soviet troops into Afghanistan. Such an asymmetric answer was thought up. And oil prices collapsed after 81 years, almost reaching a minimum by 1985. But I can assure you that neither the American leadership nor the Saudi princes had any idea in 1981 that Mikhail Gorbachev would become General Secretary in the USSR in 1985.

Posto we are not talking about conspiracies, but about big politics. Conspiracy is when one's own people plot against one's own people (as in the case of Kennedy, for example). And in the early 70s, the princes declared an oil embargo on Washington in response to support for Israel, and there was a big energy crisis, which forced the American auto industry to greatly reduce the production of giant, inefficient passenger cars. But then they came to an agreement - the Soviets were betting on an "Arab socialist revival" (including Comrade S. Hussein), and the West gave the princes a lot of weapons to protect them from it. Afghanistan, of course, brought them together even more, but now the princes are so bogged down in Western gifts that they have sold out their co-religionists on the vine.

  
By the way, where is this leopard sanctuary? Maybe it can be used to pump oil to China?

It's where the leopard lives. It is in the area that is relevant for its preservation. See the map of the location of the national park "Call of the Leopard", which is part of the reserve (in red above Zanadvorovka). Oil, if it is found in the area, can be put through the corridor marked in the south. The local community also supported the creation of the park and nature reserve. It is difficult to see the American "harmful" trace here. This is more likely in the areas of the Sakhalin shelf.

And these are Chinese poachers detained in the reserve in 2009. They searched for ginseng and caught frogs. The Chinese still come to our taiga, although much less than before. I'm afraid they won't start "knitting" entomologists there so soon. Blindfolded, and escorted out of the woods.

Yes, NP has a pronounced "anti-Chinese orientation" (:
In order not to bind entomologists, you should try to negotiate with the administrations of protected areas. If you entered there illegally, then of course you can not expect that they will immediately believe that you are not an "agent of Chinese poachers" (: It is necessary that the guard knows about you. At a minimum, ask them for permission to conduct collections at least for the formation, for example, of collections of educational institutions. In some cases, visiting centers of parks and nature reserves are interested in entomological collections , as well as" saturation of ecological trails " (there are billboards with images and brief annotations of rarities, you can also add insects). And it is quite good if the researcher takes up the inventory of his group with the publication. As far as I have come across, there are still some protected areas that want an inventory, but now there is a tendency to allocate especially valuable areas on the basis of it. That is, they already require not just a list of fauna, but also "conclusions" with recommendations on the nature management regime, including ecotourism opportunities.

NATURE CONSERVATION, HELICOPTER PILOT'S CONFESSION:

It was a hot polar summer. After returning from another flight, we went to the headquarters to find out the flight plan for the next day, in the vain hope of a day off.. Yeah, right now.. departure at 06.30, Kunovat River area (make a joke in GOOGLE maps), UNESCO customer.
Who is Unesco, where does it come from in our Darkness of Tarakan and nah fly to the Kunovat River, where there is nothing… Nothing, not even gas and prisoners. With these thoughts, we went to a well-deserved sleep.
Morning, curses from lack of sleep " my mother said-Learn physics!", scrambled eggs, coffee, bus... The usual route, to the BAI for secret maps and codes, doctor, meteo, navigator class, calculation plus or minus 500 km, surprised eyes of the navigator on duty: "And you are flying there to kuya"?? You guessed the answer.
ADP and a helicopter. I look there are two people standing, well, obviously not ours, not the Northerners. Judging by Maskvichi's clothes. The plane is refueled. I suggest they go inside. They began to say goodbye. One came in with a Baal backpack, the other waved goodbye to us.
They took off. Stupid misunderstanding of the situation. We call the only passenger from the 22-seat cabin, in the cabin. The flight mechanic takes the autopilot, the passenger takes the flight mechanic's seat.
Tell me, my friend, who, where and what does our valiant crew have to do with it?
Satisfy. Former submarine officer. Served. I retired early. Bored, I took up ornithology. We fly to the Kunovat River, because there are white cranes in the world (I forgot here, sorry, 25 years have passed), they winter in China, and they nest somewhere unknown. But quite by chance, they found out that they probably breed on the Kunovat River. There are only 30 of them in the world. The Chinese have a belief that anyone who sees them will be happy for life.
During these conversations, we fly unnoticed to the right area. Ahead flies what the crap, we understand that the bird, turn away to the side that would not be sucked into the engines. And then this ornithologist has a tantrum.
"Guys!! Guys!! Here it is! You are almost the 20th person on this planet who sees it!!

Tears are like a Peterhof fountain. Pre-infarction condition. But the submariner's body coped. Calmed down. He says let's sit down here. Oh, for God's sake. We hover over the swamp, and another piece of shit takes off to the right. The ornitholuch is hysterical again.
"Guys, you scared the female off the nest!"
Okay, we fly another 500 meters to the side, hang, he takes his backpack, the flight mechanic says to him:
- "You do your business, and we will wait for you for an hour on a hillock at seven km, then we will fly up and pick you up."
To which we get a response. That we can fly to the base, he stays for 2 weeks, he has everything with him in a backpack, special suits, cameras, radio station, raft, etc. After making sure that we did not mishear, after asking again, we fly away.
The cabin is quiet. I don't know what the commander was thinking, but I had thoughts like "here we are hoochs, drunks, womanizers, and here an officer of high moral standards" and other Tolstoy stuff. And then the flight mechanic (and he was the first poacher in our area) ruined all the raspberries :
"Guys. Forgive me. I shot them and ate them. They don't taste good.
……………………………………………………………………………………….....
P.S. The film about this bird, shot by that ornithologist, I then saw twice on Central Television. Special pride was caused by the credits after the film, which
expressed gratitude to the Mi-8 crew in search of nesting sites.))

http://www.yaplakal.com/forum6/topic395184.html
http://chapleeng.livejournal.com/5965.html

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Chinese poachers wanted to blow up leopards! http://news.rufox.ru/texts/2009/11/23/182577.htm

Absolutely amazing comic about Chinese poachers in Primorye and our valiant border guards. One of the pages. And then follow the link: http://silva-03.narod.ru/. I especially liked the episodes under 2 and 4 stars. I haven't laughed like this in a long time.



This post was edited by Wild Yuri - 12.12.2012 23: 09

What has always frightened me about conspiracy theorists and conspiracy theorists is the desire to fit facts to their versions, combined with an extremely superficial idea of the subject of reflection. Excuse me, but Washington and the Saudi princes decided to drop oil prices in 1980-81. For a perfectly understandable prosaic reason - in connection with the entry of Soviet troops into Afghanistan. Such an asymmetric answer was thought up. And oil prices collapsed after 81 years, almost reaching a minimum by 1985. But I can assure you that neither the American leadership nor the Saudi princes had any idea in 1981 that Mikhail Gorbachev would become General Secretary in the USSR in 1985.

Alexey, thank you! The clarification of what was adjusted to what (the crisis under Gorbachev or vice versa) provides another argument against the naive thesis that our future personnel affairs were not known there at all... Not only did they know that Brezhnev is not eternal (and after the meeting of him and A. Gromyko with G. Schmidt, they only thought about Brezhnev's successor), but they also knew about the proposed Brezhnev option and took measures (some are already known). Be that as it may, the unthinkable attempt by the pre - Gorbachev leadership to finish off the state budget by "fighting drunkenness" is clearly an untimely and "asymmetric response" to the loss of oil exports. Excuse me for making a chronological error on one of the many possible examples; but you don't need to smuggle in a charge of "conspiracy"under a good correction. You can delete the mention of oil and Gorbachev from my post, my argument will completely dispense with this detail. There are general economic and political patterns that are behind the events, and a particular empirical error does not indicate the "conspiracy" of those who know these patterns. Even if I have personally forgotten how much seven is seven, this does not refute the basic principles of mathematics. "Conspiracy" should be sought more from those who obscure economic laws and interests, explaining the matter with the evil will of private individuals, moralism, political "answers", the struggle of clans and groups, private interests, etc., but certainly not in my position.

Second. The link to Afghanistan was propagandistic in origin and was designed to appeal to the common consciousness, which preferred "conspiracy" and "responses" to economic determinism; in the pre-Gorbachev years, there were other subversive decisions dictated not by anyone's love of conspiracies or "asymmetric responses", but by the same fundamental interests as all hot and cold countries. the wars against us have been going on since 1914; they are all links in the same chain, and Afghanistan is absolutely not necessary for this. We are to blame for the fact that they want to eat. When did capitalism particularly need such reasons to capture new sources of raw materials and labor and new markets? M. B., when did you clear North America? Or when he colonized India? And in hindsight, to pass off the usual subversive or aggressive plans as a "response" to bad behavior, or immediately use or simply invent such behavior as an excuse - we have been through this many times.

The third. The ecological fraternity is funded, and all the money is materialized labor. First of all, they are of Russian origin, because green " sponsors "only return us a tiny percentage of what has already been stolen from us over a quarter of a century of"reforms". Taking into account the historical alternatives, this fraternity, in my opinion, is more expensive. Indeed, that "German general staff" (in its conspiracy image) would have disposed of even less money with much greater benefit for Russia; then no idiot would have had to introduce the "adopt a baby cub" action (sic!) in the PTZ to save the bison from starvation, but for attempts to self-seize the territories of protected areas (as well as for the recommendation to use the society's resources and resources to protect plankton at the individual level) The CHEKA would have found something to do with the perpetrators. But environmentalists prefer actions and the fight against problems to create a situation in which these problems are fundamentally impossible or disproportionately smaller. And then what to feed the doctor, if we do not get sick?.. This is not the fault of specific enthusiasts who sincerely do not make a mess in social studies and are therefore unsuitable for the protection of Homo sapiens, but they sincerely love bison and their own dogs. This is a system, and environmental and other charity is its product. That is why the party stands behind the fighters for the Khimki Forest (and other benefactors), which at one time did everything to ensure that Russia turned into what it is.

This post was edited by A. J. Elez - 12/13/2012 06: 00

Your story about anti-Russian intrigues is surprisingly reminiscent of the lamentations of one of my friends - a girl with a DIFFICULT FATE.After being abandoned by a dozen husbands and countless lovers, the unfortunate young lady came to the conclusion that all the men on the planet are concerned only with how to annoy her-all bitches (this is a summary)
I would like to remind Tolstoy Alexey Konstantinovich, 1861, like
They are, I mean, Communists, the most honest among all, and they are not clean according to the strict system only.
I quote from memory ,but it seems without serious errors.
Was it worth all that shit and blood?150 years, as everything is clear.
As for the separation from the CPSU Mother's dimensionless tits-please accept my condolences

A year later, when I poked my head into the foundation for a grant for the collection "Biological Diversity of the Tula Region...", I was told that from this year the foundation sponsors a different topic. Later I found out - something related to "human rights".
And similarly, the Embassy of the Netherlands helped our environmentalists through their Ministry of Agriculture. I went there and filled out an application for a grant for the same " Biodiversity...", was encouraged, but a month later I received an answer that now the grants go "for other purposes". I didn't find out which ones.

Now I understand your grief and indignation over the machinations of the "Washington regional committee", the "... conspiracy", the "shit-craters" , etc. etc.

This is the first time I've heard about the Chinese collecting frogs!
At first, I was very surprised, because the name of the frog is "tree frog", which means tree frog! It would seem, why collect croaks..
But no, it turns out that it is an ordinary grass frog, its Far Eastern version, which the Chinese collect by the ton, special farms for breeding frogs have been created in China. Tinplate

I would like to remind Tolstoy Alexey Konstantinovich, 1861, like
They are, I mean, Communists, the most honest among all, and they are not clean according to the strict system only...
As for the separation from the CPSU Mother's dimensionless tits, please accept my condolences.

The source of information on economic and political history is excellent. However, even he, with such an understanding of his descendants, is now tossing and turning in his grave along with the rest of the sixties. As for the version that already 150 years ago it was clear that for centuries in Russia (then still tsarist) it was the Communists who stole, and even systematically, this is no longer conspiracy theory, but I will not even say that. In connection with this version of the anti-Russian machinations of the Communists and the CPSU (it was given to you), I will give you one good quote:

Your story about anti-Russian intrigues is surprisingly reminiscent of the lamentations of one of my friends - a girl with a DIFFICULT FATE.Having been abandoned by a dozen husbands and countless lovers, the unfortunate young lady came to the conclusion that all the men on the planet are concerned only with how to annoy her-all bitches (this is a summary).

So let's not be like this "girl" and remain realistic. In no country in the world is international politics and the institutions involved in it limited to charity. There are other items of expenditure. And the moon money goes to them. And it is not for communists to teach capitalists to steal; a poetic quotation cannot refute this. Of course, that offended girl is not up to reading foreign literature on these topics, but let her take her word for it that they know how to take care of the interests of their states there, and life has shown us that it is much more effective than any CPSU.

And a good picture that was posted here the other day by T. Hierophis...

Now I understand your grief and indignation over the machinations of the "Washington regional committee", the "... conspiracy", the "shit-craters" , etc., etc.

Is a personal negative experience a reason to say only good things???

If you ask a person on the street what time it is, there is no need to check his documents, biography, or find out what personal motives he was guided by, answering you "half past seven". What else was he supposed to say if he'd been taught to tell the truth since childhood, and it was really half past seven? Do you rule out such a motive among your colleagues? And in general, in a dispute, instead of justifying your own and criticizing the opposite position, essentially find out the personal motives of the opponent, this is to sign in the absence of factual and logical objections.

Now I understand your grief and indignation over the machinations of the "Washington regional committee", the "... conspiracy", the "shit-craters" , etc., etc.

You have a surprisingly shallow mindset. The point is not that I personally was late to distribute easily obtained grants, but in politics. You have to love your country. If you feel so bad in Russia , then why don't you move to the bright democratic abroad?
You can get handouts "from there" and sing "glory to democracy", or you can get them and do your job without moral collaboration. Moreover, there is no such thing as "democracy" where the grants came from, and never was. It is necessary to distinguish between "democracy" ("power of the people" is a demagogic concept, and the inventors of this word - the ancient Greeks, who were civilized at that time-were much less than, for example, the Scythian barbarians) and "level of welfare".
The difference between the Washington regime and the Hitler regime is that the former, thanks to certain historical circumstances, ensured the relative well-being of the masses and internal political stability, while the latter, after the World War and the Versailles restrictions, was forced to act quickly and directly in this direction. But most of all, this symbiosis of "democracy" and well-being is observed in small, nationally homogeneous countries, especially if they could have stayed away from wars.

WHAT EXACTLY HAS CHANGED:

.."However, what annoyed me even more (and here I reveal the basic idea of these notes, i.e., the former impossibility of imagining the fauna of Russia - even European Russia-from all these 'Gross-Schmetterlinge Europas'), it was clearly an erroneous idea about the butterfly itself, resulting from the fact that its customs were limited the geographical space that the German compiler focused on. For example: not like some frankly primitive Lamprecht - or the other, I forget the name, so poetically and absurdly translated by Kholodkovsky - but such relatively rich in quantity and absolutely cheap in quality illustrated reference books (which no foreign entomological library could do without) like the famous atlases of Hoffmann or Berge, calmly they chained to the mountains, and even to the goh mountains, species of butterflies (of the genus Parnassius or Plusia) that were easily found in the meadows of my Russian plain; but since the imaginary consumer, the middle-class collector, could, within the limits of his supposed movement, meet these butterflies mainly on the mountains, there was no need to mention that that, for example, near Moscow, Apollo doesn't need Alpine air.
The same complaints are most emphatically made about the less numerous and well-known original English and French works of a "European" scale; but in both these countries, even more vulgar than in Germany, the shortcomings of compilation (the result of ignorance rather than bias) were more than redeemed by the harmony and depth of the special works - the properties that are most important in the world. little of the corresponding scholarly work of the Germans, "excellent collectors but deplorable collectors," as my father once put it. By the way, it should be noted that all sorts of "British Butterflies and Moths" VII, designed to give the island collector an idea of the native (albeit very few) fauna, are much more complete and detailed than a collection of purely German or purely French butterflies. Such atlases of Russian butterflies, that is, more or less consistent with the degree of development of lepidopterology at the end of the nineteenth century, were not produced at all, and since, due to the reasons and conditions described, the fattest schmetterlingbooks could not accommodate Russia, it remained an unknown and inconspicuous country, a hopeless gap, which, by the way, fatally responded to the attempts of other countries. monographers study the true relationship between palearctic forms.

However, we are exaggerating. Three, or at least three, specific Russian localities were invariably cited in schmetterlingbuchs: sometimes St. Petersburg, sometimes Kazan, sometimes Sarepta - most often the latter. We might conclude that, on the one hand, all these places are unusually pampered in the sense of butterflies, and that, on the other hand, such a definite, if brief indication - Sarepta, period - precludes the possibility of finding this species in many other places. But the explanation is much nicer-namely, that these locations were the natural centers of observation of the first German entomologists who studied our country and presented the results in the then journals or long-outdated reviews. Perhaps half a century or more has passed since their labels were printed; over the years, experts and ordinary collectors (not to mention the terrible breed of butterfly dealers, in the pre-school era, in the past time of fashion for lepidopterology, who literally trampled on other local rarities) have long been convinced that St. Petersburg or Kazan the orphan is found both in Ryazan and on the Dnieper. But the old labels were carefully transferred by compilers to their own editions... And this doesn't just apply to butterflies. So, from the notorious atlas of beetles corresponding to the Hoffmann atlas, the reader gets an interesting impression that an unusually large number of rare beetles live preferentially... in Volhynia. From which we conclude that very often the insect strain is only the place of residence of the insect specialist.

I have to agree with this - read more:

http://nabokovandko.narod.ru/Texts/dar2.htm

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[quote=Hierophis,14.12.2012 19:36]

In addition to the above , when the bourgeoisie is weak, unorganized, animal-greedy and treacherous in relation to its country
, a sufficiently responsible
"clerk" has to remove its most arrogant representatives and
take full power. Otherwise-collapse, a mess. Better a "tsar", even with "princes" and "boyars", than animal-greedy bourgeoisie, besides
working for overseas owners.

It's time to go to the historical site, but since it's already here...

Yes, there has long been any site)

What do you mean by "evolved towards decentralization"? What, let's say, the power is not in London or Paris, but dispersed across counties and departments? And let this county / department try to disobey the center - what will happen to this local authority? Yes, he will immediately receive a settlement without severance pay, and then a court, prison, or even an "accident".

That's right, in Europe, which can include the United States (you can even try to include Japan in Europe, even so, I'll write why below ), local authorities are very strong, but in the United States, each state has its own laws, and quite relevant borders. Just like in Germany, and in England, too, just the name "united kingdom" means something. There are essentially multiple gos-v's in one. Only here in England from the past times only the name remained, but in the vastness of the post-Soviet Union, the names were changed, and the kingdoms remained
And I listed all this just the usual "school" facts, but is there anything similar in our country? No. all these "autonomies" are one name.
In addition, I had in mind the decoupling of power from the individual, as was the case in the more primitive "royal" versions.


And not every king was a " dictator." Many people made decisions in the circle of their offended, gathered councils, and even congresses of the highest feudal lords, etc.
And there was "feudal fragmentation" - when, for example, the count did not want to obey the king, pay taxes, etc., and the skirmish began.
So technology was slowly changing, and life was very dynamic and interesting.

I don't believe that not every king was a dictator - ineche is not a king, but a title
like the current Queen of England
A normal king should be guided by the rule- "you can enter my office with your own ideas, and leave-only with my decisions", otherwise it is no longer a king.
The personal factor certainly took place, there were probably rag kings, but this is an exception, and in such conditions, the smartest "adviser" probably eventually anchored and became a gray cardinal, or even started a new dynasty
The dynamic nature of that life is more like Brownian motion or chaos among spiders in a jar. Dynamics yes, there is, but there is no development and change, the essence is the same from century to century


And it wasn't "they" who didn't get tired of all this - it was the nascent bourgeoisie that wanted more power, less responsibility. After all, the bourgeois were lower than the nobles in status, the king or local feudal lord could nail any bourgeois, and his capital - to the treasury, i.e. to himself. So they had to integrate into the government, but how? Some agreed with the king (for money), while others used the mechanism of the community and raised it to the level of parliament. But this did not lead to an increase in democracy - rather, to the growth of plutocracy. Only over time, when the NTP raised the standard of living of the masses, the" servants of the people " created mechanisms for their comfortable and safe existence, and eased the pressure on the people, and internal freedom increased. And again, they did not want strikes or revolutions - they caused huge losses. We realized that it is more profitable to have well-off subjects, but it is not immediately possible.

This is already somewhat similar to a conspiracy theory: you seem to assume that the "elite" continues its line from the Middle Ages to the present day, and it does this while remaining in power. Maybe, maybe, but another important detail of the current real Western democracy is the separation of financial bigwigs and power structures. And acc.- violation of this is a sign of an older organization. There, the "elite" did understand that it is more profitable not just to have well-to-do "slaves" but also to provide the social management system with freedom to develop and organize itself, introducing an element of real democracy, even if as a random factor like mutations, for further development


This is not democracy, but improving governance mechanisms in the light of population growth and scientific and technological progress.

It is clear that there is no democracy in the sense of "power of the people" anywhere. But it is generally accepted to call Western varian (social governance) a t - democracy. In contrast to the monarchy and similar arrangements, and yet yes, here is a monarchy, just more developed.


And who is "chosen by the people"? Except at the local government level.
Everywhere-property qualification, parties, a huge mechanism for promoting candidates.

The bottom line is that in the West the people choose at least from this Where the monarchy has taken root the people do not choose anyone. The monarchy as a conservative system tries to exclude the influence of "random" processes and new trends by all possible means. Including a simulation of "democracy" )



And "this system", as you imagine it (when "the people choose") was in the pre-feudal era, and who did the people choose? - the one who can be the best tribal leader. There are different mechanisms for nominating candidates at different levels of life.

This is true, but it is very important whether this system really works or not.
I am a proponent of the version that there are and have been two systems of social management-a person-oriented, centralized, focused on conservation and stagnation,
and a decentralized, evolutionary, development-oriented one.
The first is the monarchy and what is now called "dictatorship", the second is "Western democracy", communities of ancient tribes, and so on.

So, isn't it obvious that neither in the USSR nor now in the post-Soviet era, the second option, although declared, does not work



In Russia, there are no less attributes of "democracy" in the sense that "the people choose"
than in most European countries, not to mention America.

There can be any number of attributes, but when it doesn't work, it doesn't work - and this is a fact



There was a revolution - a change in social formations, a "radical breakdown" (Grandfather Marx). And it's not easy to create new content.

That's right, there was a revolution-it seems that the bourgeoisie realized that the monarchy in RI was so entrenched that no evolution shines, and decided to break it in one fell swoop, and what was the result? )))))
And in the end, after the bloody horror and chaos... A new monarchy led by Stalin has risen from the ruins, ha ha ha.

Another attempt was made in the 1990s-well, there is little doubt that the West made every effort to make this island of pulsating monarchy collapse.. and here's what we see? Again and again-SHE )))

There is even one joke on this topic:

"Perestroika, the collapse of the Soviet Union, then free business, Western investment appeared..
Well, the bourgeois representatives decided to invest in a plant that produces Zhiguli, brought the most modern equipment there, all the old ones were turned into scrap metal, and everything was set up.. We came up with a design, a name for new series of cars.. launched the factory..
The moment of the first acceptance of products has come, investors come and see it.. on the exit of the conveyor roll out.. Zhiguli!
How so???
In general, they bought this plant completely, kicked out all the bosses and workers, brought their own, launched the plant..
The day of product acceptance has arrived.. and to the exit of the conveyor .. Zhiguli are leaving again!!!
Fainting spells, German curses, and so on.

And the chief engineer and the director of the former factory are standing to the side, one of them says to the other: "I told you, this place is cursed!"

The creators of national happiness slaughtered the royal family, and apparently someone still managed to come up with the most sophisticated curse, you can fantasize that in a million years, when not only will apples grow on Mars, but the floor of the Milky Way is populated, with the latest forms of social management that you can't even think of, and even at this time time is still there where the monarchy will remain - it is not difficult to guess where



Did you fall off the moon? We haven't had a tsar since 1917.! We have the same president as in the USA, France, and many others. And it is nominated - it is chosen more democratically than in the United States.
In other "democracies", he may be called something else, for example, Chancellor, Prime minister. But the essence is the same-a clerk of the bourgeoisie!

Names can be very different to come up with, mzhno Lada call Porsche, but in fact it's all Volvo-Lada )))
And in Japan, democracy has long been "absorbed with a nuclear mushroom", and not with one! What kind of Yakuza is there? If not for the expansion of the West to Japan, which seems to have earned it, then there would still be ninjas with swords running around fences! And now there is an emperor - the same emperor as Aunt Stesha-the Queen of England, and Japan has long become another Europe))))

Alas, I don't know the addresses of Tula and Malorossian psychiatric clinics - gentlemen ( tovrishchi at will) it's time to call you on 03.Paranoia is dangerous ,including for others.

This is also very powerful, Alexey. It is a thousand times true that "paranoia is dangerous, including for others." She's a much better campaigner than all the Lavr posts put together. So, you see, the people from the outside, even knowing little about the CPSU in their youth, just by comparing the levels of argumentation, will really run to the CPSU, so do you really want to do this...
Once again I remind you of my favorite example for such cases:

Having been abandoned by a dozen husbands and countless lovers, the unfortunate young lady came to the conclusion that all the men on the planet are concerned only with how to annoy her-all bitches (this is a summary).