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11.09.2009 15:56, okoem

what is the reason for this behavior? confused.gif

The reason for this behavior is the cramped conditions of detention.
Therefore, caterpillars preparing for pupation (not to mention pupae) should be planted immediately for their safety.
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11.09.2009 16:15, barko

   okoem, I'm beginning to understand where about a dozen caterpillars disappeared to shortly after their hatching
, another caterpillar pupated over the past day, and the rest managed to eat a fresh pupa. some predators are these phegea caterpillars.

fresh food (plantain leaves standing in the water) while they are in abundance, what is the reason for this behavior?  confused.gif
That's the problem with fresh food. Phegea caterpillars are very fond of dead, last year's leaves and similar food. Perhaps, by eating pupae, they replenished the supply of certain substances.
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11.09.2009 18:43, okoem

I didn't have anything to do with phegea, but the caterpillars of Amata nigricornis seem to eat anything, in the Crimea they massively eat moss in the spring, and in the case of small dead invertebrates.

16.09.2009 0:04, LEGION-E38

Saved the Admiral's caterpillar, and therefore you have a Respected question.
How to try to bring out a butterfly at home? Balcony (rather unsuitable, South side), refrigerator virpul.
P. S. Walked with my daughter and found on the roadway, it was a pity, there are no forests or parks nearby, brought home.
Sincerely, Oleg.

16.09.2009 2:07, Guest

Are you sure it's the Admiral's caterpillar?" Then leave her at home, feed her nettles if she has any. You won't need a refrigerator. A butterfly will pupate and soon come out. In this species, if it overwinters, it is an adult insect, and even more often migrates to the south, if it has time before frost.

16.09.2009 10:38, okoem

Saved the Admiral's caterpillar, and therefore you have a Respected question.
How to try to bring out a butterfly at home? Balcony (rather unsuitable, South side), refrigerator virpul.
P. S. Walked with my daughter and found on the roadway, it was a pity, there are no forests or parks nearby, brought home.
Sincerely yours, Oleg.

I agree with the guest - this is hardly the admiral's caterpillar. On the roadway - it's more like a hawk moth of some kind... And the Admiral is not in the habit of crawling along the roadway.

16.09.2009 19:11, BUTTERFLY

Please tell me, and the caterpillars of the oak-leaved cocoonworm in what conditions to keep? Somewhere I read that the 3rd age spend the winter.. how to organize all this for them. The caterpillars just hatched today.

16.09.2009 20:12, okoem

Please tell me, and the caterpillars of the oak-leaved cocoonworm in what conditions to keep? Somewhere I read that the 3rd age spend the winter.. how to organize all this for them. The caterpillars just hatched today.

Take a plastic bottle from min.water, turn down the throat, cut off the bottom, put twigs with leaves inside, so that the petioles stick out of the throat, seal the throat with cotton wool so that there are no cracks. Put all this construction in a half-liter jar of water so that the petioles get into the water. Put the caterpillars on twigs; tighten the bottle on top (i.e., where the bottom was)with a fine mesh. That's all in terms of content. On wintering grounds-read acc. By the way, this issue has already been discussed.

This post was edited by okoem - 09/16/2009 20: 53
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19.09.2009 22:49, LEGION-E38

Responses:
"then what is the Admiral?" Yes, the photo was sent to the Department of the Timiryazev Academy of No...how to feed?...they didn't respond...incorrect is for "them" a "cruel pest"
- pupated in the evening of the same day...
P.S. We are looking forward to joyful events!
P.S.#2 To all participants, thank you very much for your assistance! 8-)

21.09.2009 15:59, Linna09

Can you tell me how to spend the winter of a swallowtail pupa in the refrigerator?
Judging by the signs, the caterpillar will soon pupate and spend the winter.

21.09.2009 22:35, OlgaG

Hello!
Yesterday I found a deadhead hawk moth caterpillar. Planted in a liter jar with a layer of earth somewhere 8cm. The caterpillar immediately buried itself in the ground. I put the jar in a dark place.
Please tell me what to do with it now. I really want to bring out a butterfly.

22.09.2009 0:13, okoem

what to do with it now.
Read this topic. Everything has already been told and in my opinion even repeatedly smile.gif
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22.09.2009 10:48, OlgaG

do you want to say that the Death's Head hawk moth, according to its breeding at home, is no different from, say, the breeding of wine hawk moth, etc? I.e. it also needs to be put in the refrigerator in a couple of weeks, wintering? smile.gif

22.09.2009 13:39, okoem

In the refrigerator is not necessary, of course. smile.gif But the rest is still the same.
My pupa wintered at a temperature of about +15 ... 20, the butterfly came out in mid-February.

29.09.2009 14:18, TEMPUS

There is a further question.I found an oak silkworm caterpillar (Lasiocampa quercus) this year,and it successfully pupated.But the butterfly did not come out of the chrysalis this year, so it will spend the winter.The question is as follows.How to organize wintering specifically for this species?Is it necessary to keep the cocoon in a container with wet sawdust all winter,or is it possible to do without it?What temperature should be maintained during wintering?When to get pupae out of the wintering ground and when to wait for the appearance of a butterfly?I really hope for your help.

29.09.2009 16:25, AntSkr

There is a further question.I found an oak silkworm caterpillar (Lasiocampa quercus) this year,and it successfully pupated.But the butterfly did not come out of the chrysalis this year, so it will spend the winter.The question is as follows.How to organize wintering specifically for this species?Is it necessary to keep the cocoon in a container with wet sawdust all winter,or is it possible to do without it?What temperature should be maintained during wintering?When to get pupae out of the wintering ground and when to wait for the appearance of a butterfly?I really hope for your help.

Your baby pupa died. This species overwinters only in the caterpillar stage.

This post was edited by AntSkr - 09/29/2009 16: 59

02.10.2009 15:55, TEMPUS

Your baby pupa died. This species overwinters only in the caterpillar stage.

No, the pupa didn't die.I carefully opened the cocoon today and found her wiggling her tail.Thus, the pupa did not die.
And what makes you think that this species can not winter again at the pupal stage?In some sources,it is said that the oak cocoonworm (lasiocampa querqus) in the northern regions of its range (to which the Ivanovo region can also be attributed) can winter again at the pupal stage.For example, it says so in this source http://www.macrolepidoptera.ru/book/73 ( in the "brief information" section) But, unfortunately, this source provides only confirmation of the fact that this species can overwinter a second time at the pupal stage.Nothing directly related to the organization of wintering pupae of this species is said there.
Therefore, the questions I raised about the wintering of the oak silkworm pupa remain valid.Now wintering is also complicated by the fact that the pupa was left with only half of the cocoon,the other half had to be carefully removed to check whether the tip of the pupa is moving and whether the pupa is alive?
In general, what other opinions will there be on wintering an oak silkworm pupa?

05.10.2009 14:41, TEMPUS

I'm also interested in this question.This year I found a cocoon of the peacock-eyed Saturnia pavonia on a goat willow tree.It goes without saying that I took it for breeding a butterfly, and I had some difficulties with this.Many sources say that the cocoons of pavonias very often overwinter not once,but several times.The question is as follows.In some sources, it is said that in order to increase the probability of a butterfly coming out in the same year (respectively,to reduce the probability of secondary wintering), it is necessary to freeze the pupa in winter to minus 15-20 degrees,in others, on the contrary, that the pupa should be kept in winter in mild temperature conditions(from -5 to +5 degrees).So what conditions should the pupa create in winter so that it comes out next year, and does not remain in diapause for another year?What are your opinions on this?
PS Also see,please, and my previous post about the oak cocoonworm.

05.10.2009 15:05, entomolog

Colleagues! Does anyone know what to feed Iphiclides podalirius caterpillars in winter and autumn?

06.10.2009 15:56, MARINACHRISTINA

Urgently buy pupae of tropical or domestic bright butterfly coloring pages. to receive butterflies by October 28!!! I'm also in Cyprus. who faced the transfer of pupae to Europe. will there be any difficulties?

christina_taratiova@mail.ru

Spasibo!!!

07.10.2009 20:38, aleksei2606

Good evening I want to start breeding butterflies where to start?

07.10.2009 20:40, Dr. Niko

Read the forum and wait for summer.

07.10.2009 21:21, aleksei2606

Read the forum and wait for summer.

And how do the others breed them then?!

08.10.2009 12:13, Хруня

Hi. I accidentally went to this site while I was looking for how to grow a butterfly from a caterpillar. I know absolutely nothing about it. Please help me!!! At home, I had two fluffy caterpillars. What should I do with them???

08.10.2009 13:44, okoem

Hi. I accidentally went to this site while I was looking for how to grow a butterfly from a caterpillar. I know absolutely nothing about it. Please help me!!! At home, I had two fluffy caterpillars. What should I do with them???

1. Post a photo of your caterpillars in the topic " Identifying caterpillars..."
2. Ask about the food plant of this species.
3. Read this topic from the very beginning - everything has already been told for a long time.

I can assume that your caterpillars are Macrothylacia rubi. In the topic on the definition of caterpillars, this is one of the most popular species.

10.10.2009 11:27, entomolog

Colleagues! Does anyone know what to feed Iphiclides podalirius caterpillars in autumn and winter?

Colleagues! The question is still relevant.

12.10.2009 13:12, SEadm

I wrote something like a manual for breeding Swallowtails, if something is wrong, then plz unsubscribe - I'll fix it, there is no final result yet.. The pupae seem to be alive, I'm waiting for them to fly out.

_http://sibentomolog.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=7

This post was edited by SEadm - 12.10.2009 13: 14

12.10.2009 14:58, entomolog

Served, dill will not eat.((
And there are no more cherries, now it's snowing in St. Petersburg.

12.10.2009 16:02, Aaata

Served, dill will not eat.((
And there are no more cherries, now it's snowing in St. Petersburg.

Do you also no longer have rowan leaves? But at this time, his caterpillar did not eat anything, it pupated a couple of days after the discovery, and in May the butterfly was safely hatched.

12.10.2009 16:56, entomolog

Do you also no longer have rowan leaves? But at this time, his caterpillar did not eat anything, it pupated a couple of days after the discovery, and in May the butterfly was safely hatched.

I have Gren, the day before yesterday...(((
Therefore, if they hatch, then feed for 5-6 weeks.
The previous 50 caterpillars from 05.08 to 25.09 devoured a small tree, in addition to cherries, they agreed to a pear. But the cherry tree grows in the yard, and you had to go for a pear. And I'm not ready to keep the tree in a tub, and it's too late to transplant it, it will still crumble.

This post was edited by entomolog - 12.10.2009 17: 00

13.10.2009 18:12, TEMPUS

People!Well, maybe you can tell me what to do with my lasiocampa querqus and Saturnia pavonia.I know, with your experience of keeping butterfly caterpillars, my questions probably seem silly to you, but please don't ignore them.After all,I don't have as much experience as you do,so sometimes I need support.Don't deny it to me.

This post was edited by TEMPUS - 13.10.2009 18: 14

13.10.2009 18:59, AntSkr

People!Well, maybe you can tell me what to do with my lasiocampa querqus and Saturnia pavonia.I know, with your experience of keeping butterfly caterpillars, my questions probably seem silly to you, but please don't ignore them.After all,I don't have as much experience as you do,so sometimes I need support.Don't deny it to me.

The standard wintering ground for these species is the same as for others. In the subject, I think something was written before, try to search.
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13.10.2009 19:13, okoem

I have Gren, the day before yesterday...(((
Therefore, if they hatch, then feed for 5-6 weeks.
The previous 50 caterpillars from 05.08 to 25.09 devoured a small tree, in addition to cherries, they agreed to a pear. But the cherry tree grows in the yard, and you had to go for a pear. And I'm not ready to keep the tree in a tub, and it's too late to transplant it, it will still crumble.

Would he be willing to take the roses in an hour? You can always get them.

14.10.2009 14:12, entomolog

Would he be willing to take the roses in an hour? You can always get them.

A thought! Thanks!

02.12.2009 18:23, Guest

The child was given a research paper on any topic. I offered to raise a butterfly. Is this possible at home and where to get cocoons? How long will it take? Ekaterinburg

28.12.2009 23:57, guest: Татьяна

Where can I buy swallowtail pupae or caterpillars?

29.12.2009 1:59, Hemaris

Cocoons for breeding can be obtained here daph@list.ru

DO YOU LIVE IN THE MIDDLE ZONE AND WANT TO RAISE BUTTERFLIES IN WINTER? ACTIAS DUBERNARDI - YOUR CHOICE!

05.01.2010 2:23, Фиалка трехцветная

And I have this situation: the caterpillars of Pieris brassica and P. rapae (collected in the middle zone) pupated at the end of August, were transported by me to the North, were alive (moved the abdomen) until December 31, and then on January 3. I look, and 2 pupae turned black and show through in the places of the wings (i.e. clearly died). Tell me why this could have happened (so that I don't ruin others in the same way!).

05.01.2010 9:53, Бабочник

It's so hard to say, you didn't describe the storage conditions for pupae....

05.01.2010 15:53, Фиалка трехцветная

Storage conditions: in a shaded place, t = 25 gr., humidity 50 +/- 5 % (i.e. no special conditions were created, just stored in the room). I wonder why, in principle, they could have died: dryness of the room, parasites, something else?..

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