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15.07.2017 15:47, NIKSTER

Caterpillars of many species can weave a cocoon not only for pupation, but also for normal molting, or just to wait out unfavorable conditions.

They don't make cocoons for molting caterpillars, at least I haven't seen smile.gifthem .
You probably meant weaving a cocoon for the winter?
In this case, a light cocoon is woven. Weaves for example Cossus cossus.

15.07.2017 23:55, ИНО

I saw it. Most often in bears, but not only. Now I can't remember everyone I've seen and who hasn't, most of my caterpillar - breeding experience is the work of bygone days. But I've probably seen it more often than not. Wintering meant waiting out unfavorable conditions, as one of the options, but not the only one. These cocoons are really very thin and transparent compared to the real ones, but they fit the phrase "I started to wrap myself in threads".

This post was edited by ENO-15.07.2017 23: 56

16.08.2017 13:44, Артем174

Hello! Tell me such a thing. It was possible to get offspring from a female Swallowtail collected in nature. The stage of eggs, larvae and pupae is passed. I wanted to get the next generation. And they don't want to mate. Hence the question of how to create conditions for mating? And in general, how is it more efficient to organize the process of their reproduction (they are all from one female)?

16.08.2017 19:30, Andrey Ponomarev

Hello! Tell me such a thing. It was possible to get offspring from a female Swallowtail collected in nature. The stage of eggs, larvae and pupae is passed. I wanted to get the next generation. And they don't want to mate. Hence the question of how to create conditions for mating? And in general, how is it more efficient to organize the process of their reproduction (they are all from one female)?

If from one female, then relatives will not mate.
Female in the cage and in the field to wait for the cavalier.

18.08.2017 22:16, Артем174

Gennadich! Post photos of such a cage? Just out of curiosity. I understand that the males won't arrive right away. A day, two, three, and who knows if they'll be in their chosen place at all. How do I choose a location? They'll probably bake on the lawn in the hot sun. What plants should I pay attention to? How do I identify a promising location?

18.08.2017 23:33, Wild Yuri

I manually mated swallowtails. And many other butterflies. You hold objects by their folded wings and "dock" them... After 2-3 minutes, it's ready!

18.08.2017 23:33, Wild Yuri

Read more here: https://www.google.ru/search?newwindow=1&so...3k1.5thwLvA1Zjw.

19.08.2017 0:26, NIKSTER

I understand that the males won't arrive right away. A day, two, three, and who knows if they'll be in their chosen place at all. How do I choose a location? They'll probably bake on the lawn in the hot sun. What plants should I pay attention to? How do I identify a promising location?

If it comes to that, then choose a place where there are more swallowtails. Look for places where parasol clusters grow.

19.08.2017 8:56, Andrey Ponomarev

Gennadich! Post photos of such a cage? Just out of curiosity. I understand that the males won't arrive right away. A day, two, three, and who knows if they'll be in their chosen place at all. How do I choose a location? They'll probably bake on the lawn in the hot sun. What plants should I pay attention to? How do I identify a promising location?

1 Yes ordinary bag made of blown fabric (gauze, mosquito net, tulle, etc.)
2 lure naturally where in your opinion they fly the most
3 of course in the shade
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19.08.2017 12:37, Артем174

Thank you for your answers!

19.08.2017 20:09, solnyshko a

Good evening, day or night )) Who will read it when.
On August 13 of this year, they picked up Amorpha juglandis at the entrance
and thought to take it to the dacha. But... It turned out to be a female, left the offspring and flew away.. Well, more precisely, I released her, as she began to flutter violently )

Today my mother found a lot of caterpillars... I threw it out. But some people still stayed. 2 newly hatched eggs and 22 eggs.

I read what they eat. I brought them walnut leaves. Washed and dried.
They crawl on them, but they don't eat them!

What to do?

19.08.2017 20:35, Guest

Sorry for the extremely unprofessional questions (I help a child who decided to try to grow a butterfly from the found caterpillars, and I myself became very interested)

There is a caterpillar Acronicta rumicis. While cheerfully eating plantain. I read it, it looks like it needs to be fed sorrel.
While it is contained in a glass jar, covered with gauze, with greens. Soon we will leave the dacha for the city. I realized that it is necessary to prepare a container with earth, twigs, ventilation and humidity control
, but I did not understand, it will need to be sent to the refrigerator if it comes to pupation?)). Or let it sit at room temperature?
And if a miracle happens, the butterfly will hatch in the spring?

20.08.2017 7:07, ИНО

solnyshko a, are you sure that the definition is correct? To throw out newborn caterpillars is a very cruel act, they themselves will not crawl to the food plant.

Acronicta rumicis is a broad polyphage, and it doesn't need sorrel. Once he eats plantain, let him continue to eat.

20.08.2017 7:39, Alexandr Zhakov

Good evening, day or night )) Who will read it when.
On August 13 of this year, they picked up Amorpha juglandis at the entrance
and thought to take it to the dacha. But... It turned out to be a female, left the offspring and flew away.. Well, more precisely, I released her, as she began to flutter violently )

Today my mother found a lot of caterpillars... I threw it out. But some people still stayed. 2 newly hatched eggs and 22 eggs.

I read what they eat. I brought them walnut leaves. Washed and dried.
They crawl on them, but they don't eat them!

What to do?

Give them poplar leaves.smile.gif

20.08.2017 8:23, Ольга Титова

1 Yes ordinary bag made of blown fabric (gauze, mosquito net, tulle, etc.)
2 lure naturally where you think they fly the most
3 of course in the shade

Adhering to these conditions, two weeks ago a female wingless wave was placed in this way. She gave it to Gren. Still would now understand whether it is fertilized, whether it is worth waiting for the release of caterpillars.

20.08.2017 15:32, solnyshko a

[quote=ENO, 20.08.2017 08: 07]

20.08.2017 15:35, solnyshko a

By the way, I already have +1 caterpillar ))

....and another +1

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20.08.2017 16:21, Alexandr Zhakov

I already wrote, give them poplar leaves, this is the poplar hawk moth Laothoe populi (Linnaeus, 1758)
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20.08.2017 16:24, Alexandr Zhakov

Unless of course Gelendzhik is not in America smile.gif

20.08.2017 20:10, solnyshko a

I already wrote, give them poplar leaves, this is the poplar hawk moth Laothoe populi (Linnaeus, 1758)


Unfortunately, they don't want him either....
I'll try another whiteface. But the green one didn't roll ((

20.08.2017 23:04, ИНО

Adhering to these conditions, two weeks ago a female wingless wave was placed in this way. She gave it to Gren. Still would now understand whether it is fertilized, whether it is worth waiting for the release of caterpillars.

You don't seem to understand. We can only wait and hope.
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22.08.2017 16:39, Guest

One of the caterpillars pupates in a plantainuser posted image
But the leaf will rot...will she be okay?

22.08.2017 18:29, ИНО

Rather than rot, it will wither. Normal.

23.08.2017 0:55, solnyshko a

I already wrote, give them poplar leaves, this is the poplar hawk moth Laothoe populi (Linnaeus, 1758)

They started popping!!!
True, 4 goslings have already died...
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25.08.2017 20:56, t00m

Attacus lorquini eggs for 30 rubles. write.

04.09.2017 20:00, Mituna

Good evening, I say right away, I have a terribly stupid beginner's question.
A pupa of Graphium Agamemnon was purchased out of pure love for this species. It was taken for myself, but the child became interested and wanted to try to breed butterflies.
The question was acute, I couldn't refuse - and I was interested in it myself, but...
I understand that sailboats have citrus as their main food plant. I read that they offer to grow on a pontirus, but before it grows, the butterfly will simply die. Therefore, I want to ask in advance - in the future, when I do get to the point of starting to breed them, how best to prepare a food base for caterpillars, on what? Is it possible to replace citrus fruits with something more affordable, and if not, what do you recommend growing?

05.09.2017 3:53, ИНО

05.09.2017 10:15, Mituna

05.09.2017 16:21, ИНО

There is a chance, but given the number of possible options, the reality of implementing it by iterating at random is illusory. Yes, and from one pupa you will hardly get caterpillars. Choose a different type of food plant that is definitely available in your area.

06.09.2017 10:31, Mituna

The point is that I have polyaltia, it is their feed, I found where to get it, just like finding pupae in St. Petersburg is not such a problem... I'm just afraid that at the request of the left heel, they will be indifferent to it...

06.09.2017 14:05, xoshAmadam

They are, in principle, quite omnivorous, the people grew them on various annonas, including on the annonas proper, on artabotria.
Not only on annonovs, but also on magnolias, they were successfully raised, specifically on grandiflora and champak.

06.09.2017 16:34, Mituna

06.09.2017 22:09, xoshAmadam

If you are in St. Petersburg, then, I believe, it is on the magnolia tree that your butterflies are raised, since it is much easier to get a couple of bags of sabzha from some Honeycombs than to expel annonovs in the apartment in winter.

06.09.2017 23:06, Mituna

My butterflies, alas, are purchased from God knows where, and taken from the butterfly garden in the SUMMER. The first was not even really born, as they said, a defective pupa. It's a shame, but I won't give up trying.
And as for the annonov pasture, I don't know yet, there are a couple of purely tropical plants at home, I'll try to raise a polyaltia seedling, since they will send a 3-4-year-old seedling, it is very similar...big.

10.09.2017 14:42, tomegatherion

Good afternoon. I found a moth moth caterpillar. Is it difficult to grow it to a butterfly yourself? I don't have any experience. Please advise me or tell me where to read about it.

picture: IMG_1312.jpg

This post was edited by tomegatherion - 10.09.2017 14: 42

10.09.2017 20:27, NIKSTER

Good afternoon. I found a moth moth caterpillar. Is it difficult to grow it to a butterfly yourself? I don't have any experience. Please advise me or tell me where to read about it.



The easiest representative for growing this family. Feed it with milkweed.
Moreover, the caterpillar is large, it remains only to finish feeding it. But it often happens that when you pick up caterpillars old enough, they may contain parasites, but here as luck would have it.
When pupation time comes, the caterpillar will stop eating and start looking for a place to pupate. Take a plastic container and put some napkins in it.
In general, all hawk moth pupate in the soil. To avoid dragging the groundwink.gif, you can use the option with napkins.

This post was edited by NIKSTER - 10.09.2017 20: 27

10.09.2017 20:32, KM2200

And what, normally in napkins pupate? And other families (such as scoops)? And I offer everyone the land shuffle.gif

10.09.2017 20:40, NIKSTER

And what, normally in napkins pupate? And other families (such as scoops)? And I'm offering everyone land shuffle.gif

Yes, they pupate very well. Misfires are quite rare. The main thing is that there is no liquid. To do this, I put a napkin and tear it in half so that it is not too thick. I put one half on the bottom of a plastic container, lay the caterpillar down and cover the other half.
I even have such a multi-storey system of napkins and tracks wink.gif. The main thing is not to disturb them often and ventilate the container.
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10.09.2017 22:13, ИНО

The easiest representative for growing this family.

But, in my experience, and the most "wormy". I took it three times in two different years and in two different places, but I never got butterflies, only flies. For comparison: the dead head got three butterflies out of three caterpillars, with the bedstraw also everything was fine.

10.09.2017 22:22, NIKSTER

But, in my experience, and the most "wormy". I took it three times in two different years and in two different places, but I never got butterflies, only flies. For comparison: I got three butterflies out of three caterpillars from death's head, and everything was fine with Podmarennikov, too.

Yes, that's for sure. Almost all the caterpillars collected last year were infested with parasites.
Output: collect caterpillars 1-3 years old or hatch from eggs.
On a dead head: did you find everyone in the Crimea or near Donetsk? I don't know about parasites, I've never found one yet.
Bedstraw also say that without problems and without parasites, because they are nocturnal.

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