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Identification of Hymenoptera (wasps, bees, ants)

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25.09.2013 16:04, guest: AlisaInAsia

-About the size - either "fear has big eyes", or disinformation
= is this about the second orange wasp?

Driniida was not terrible, it is at most 5 mm

25.09.2013 16:17, AVA

-About the size - either "fear has big eyes", or disinformation
= is this about the second orange wasp?

Driniida was not terrible, it is at most 5 mm


I'm sorry, the link didn't open. frown.gif
The picture barely shows anything. Judging by its characteristic coloration, it is most likely the local hornet Vespa affinis. But then the size is too small - this species is no smaller than our V. crabro.

25.09.2013 16:20, gumenuk

In addition to what was previously displayed.
Maybe these pictures will help?

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25.09.2013 16:23, алекс 2611

Are they honeybees?
Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, Hripan railway platform area.
Date in the file name

I agree, the venation of the wings or at least the face (front view) for the second photo is not enough. But I would still venture to assume that these are males of Macropis sp. Well, before the view on this photo I pass.
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25.09.2013 16:27, Anatoliy Kuzmin

Opedelite, please, the wasp. 24.08.2013г. Rostov region.
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If something is missing, I'll check it out.

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25.09.2013 16:41, AVA

Opedelite, please, the wasp. 24.08.2013г. Rostov region.
If something is missing, I'll check it out.


Quite enough.
This is a female Vespula vulgaris

Yes, to catch up... Judging by the proportions of the antennae and body, this is a working individual.

This post was edited by AVA-25.09.2013 16: 43
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25.09.2013 16:43, алекс 2611

In addition to what was previously displayed.
Maybe these pictures will help?

Macropis europaea Warncke, 1973. As already written - male
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25.09.2013 16:53, gumenuk

If it is impossible to reach the species, then the genus will be enough.
Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, near the railway platform Khripan.
Date in the file name

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25.09.2013 16:55, AVA

If it is impossible to reach the species, then the genus will be enough.
Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, near the railway platform Khripan.
Date in the file name


Formica
Myrmica
Lasius
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25.09.2013 17:04, gumenuk

Help me determine (1)
Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, near the railway platform Khripan.
Date in the file name

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25.09.2013 18:22, guest: AlisaInAsia

AVA is exactly Vespa affinis. You are an Ac os

25.09.2013 21:51, TimK

If it is impossible to reach the species, then the genus will be enough.
Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, near the railway platform Khripan.
Date in the file name


Genus Formica subgenus Formica
genus Myrmica
Lasius niger (provided that the size is 3.5 - 4 mm) If smaller (2.5-3.5 mm), then Lasius alienus, but these proportions are not similar. Probably niggers.
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26.09.2013 3:15, akulich-sibiria

Pheidole pallidula ants. Dlussky wrote that there are two species of this genus in the USSR. The second is in Primorye and the Kuril Islands. So, only this one could have come from Uzbekistan.
In the southern regions, they often crawl into houses, but I have not seen them build nests in houses like Pharaohs. I don't think you should be afraid. I am very sorry that you got the apple, and not me. I brought five females of this species from Spain this year and none of them started a family. Three died on the road... Hurtful.


Well, not knowing at first even the genus, especially on imported products of plant origin from Central Asia, they still decided not to take any risks and I "rolled up" all the ants in alcohol. The three apples contained about 30 pieces
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26.09.2013 11:23, TimK

Well, not knowing at first even the genus, especially on imported products of plant origin from Central Asia, they still decided not to take any risks and I "rolled up" all the ants in alcohol. There were about 30 apples in three of them


Well, you, my dear, are a sadist! 30 innocent souls were destroyed smile.gif
Was there a female among them?
It is not terrible to import ants from "our" Asia. From other countries, large species too. If you're not allergic to bites, you won't die. But it is better to keep small species in quarantine and figure out what kind of animal. It is better to keep and transport ants in an incubator. If there is no test tube , you can make it from syringes. Ants brought or caught in apples can be given to me as a gift. I will accept any requests with gratitude.

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26.09.2013 11:38, akulich-sibiria

Well, you, my dear, are a sadist! 30 innocent souls were destroyed smile.gif
Was there a female among them?
It is not terrible to import ants from "our" Asia. From other countries, large species too. If you're not allergic to bites, you won't die. But it is better to keep small species in quarantine and figure out what kind of animal. It is better to keep and transport ants in an incubator. If there is no test tube , you can make it from syringes. Ants brought or caught in apples can be given to me as a gift. I will accept any requests with gratitude.


And where to send it, if anything? smile.gif I'll let you know if anything happens.
Although there may be problems in the transfer process. Will they not die during the journey? And will they take such live material for transportation?
Well, after reading, I realized that the female should be larger than the rest of the individuals. I didn't notice any of them.

26.09.2013 11:41, akulich-sibiria

At the same time, there were more apples, but in others there were already black holes and there were no ants in them. Practically all the apples contained caterpillars of Laspeyresia pomonella and the ubiquitous California scabby.

26.09.2013 13:22, TimK

And where to send it, if anything? smile.gif I'll let you know if anything happens.
Although there may be problems in the transfer process. Will they not die during the journey? And will they take such live material for transportation?
Well, after reading, I realized that the female should be larger than the rest of the individuals. I didn't notice any of them.

The female is much larger. About 10 mm. If it didn't happen, then you can be pardoned. smile.gif
I am amused by keeping ant families at home. I watch and take pictures. I raise families from a female. Therefore, I accept females in the incubator of species that are interesting to me. I'm letting the rest out. Females starting families on their own can live in the incubator without feeding until the first workers appear (1-2 months). Then you need to feed. Female parasite species (invading or infesting other families) do not have internal reserves and will live in an incubator without food for about a week. Working individuals are about the same number. However, I am happy to accept working individuals in a bottle of vodka for photographing and compiling a photo collection. And not only ants, but also wasps. It looks something like this:
http://www.antvid.org/Vespa/Gal/Vespula%20...ris%20foto.html
I have such fun. Maybe someone else will need it. View, compare...
You can contact me and make an agreement at: antvid@inbox.ru (it is available on my website)
In Russia, I sent test tubes and vials without any problems. Put it in cotton wool and in a box of some chocolate candies. No one checks at the post office. Candies and candies... It is better not to send money abroad. Check.

26.09.2013 14:48, Mantispid

Comrades, please help!
I was strained at uni to sort out the fees of some regular student. Everything is collected in the surrounding area of Saratov and should be the most common types. I tried to take a picture from different angles, if you can't see something, write to me, and I'll post the second batch in the evening.

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26.09.2013 15:14, алекс 2611

Comrades, please help!
I was strained at uni to sort out the fees of some regular student. Everything is collected in the surrounding area of Saratov and should be the most common types. I tried to take a picture from different angles, if you can't see something, write to me, and I'll post the second batch in the evening.

P4ela_1 is Melitturga clavicornis (Latreille, 1806), male

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26.09.2013 15:26, алекс 2611

Comrades, please help!
I was strained at uni to sort out the fees of some regular student. Everything is collected in the surrounding area of Saratov and should be the most common types. I tried to take a picture from different angles, if you can't see something, write to me, and I'll post the second batch in the evening.

P4ela_2 Eucera sp.
P4ela_3 Melitta sp.
P4ela_4 Andrena sp.
I'm sorry, but I won't risk talking about the view from the photo.

P4ela_5 is the Sceliphron sp wasp.
I think it will be determined now.

Yes, and please tear off this student's hands for pricking bees in the abdomen. mad.gif
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26.09.2013 18:35, AVA

Comrades, please help!
I was strained at uni to sort out the fees of some regular student. Everything is collected in the surrounding area of Saratov and should be the most common types. I tried to take a picture from different angles, if you can't see something, write to me, and I'll post the second batch in the evening.


The last female wasp is Sceliphron destillatorium (Illiger, 1807).
Who taught this bad girl to mount like this? It's barbaric... wall.gif
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26.09.2013 18:38, Mantispid

The last female wasp is Sceliphron destillatorium (Illiger, 1807).
Who taught this bad girl to mount like this? It's barbaric... wall.gif

We have the whole university so mounts + pins thick stationery smile.gif
no one has ever heard of labels

26.09.2013 18:48, Коллекционер

dear friends, how to distinguish the genera Lestica and Ectemnius except by the fovea at the inner edge of the eyes?

26.09.2013 20:47, алекс 2611

We have the whole university so mounts + pins thick stationery smile.gif
no one has ever even heard of labels

Or maybe teach them? It's scary to look at the results of such a mount

26.09.2013 23:29, Bad Den

We have the whole university so mounts + pins thick stationery smile.gif
no one has ever even heard of labels

And what is the point of these fees?

27.09.2013 3:18, akulich-sibiria

probably student practice. If so, then sometimes it is very interesting to rummage through such material! You can find a lot of interesting and new things. True, our quality is similar, and sometimes even more biting :-)
Here we can only talk about the very finding of the species at a certain point

27.09.2013 7:12, Mantispid

  
P4ela_2 Eucera sp.
P4ela_3 Melitta sp.
P4ela_4 Andrena sp.

on the 3rd - I go to the male Melitta leporina (Panzer, 1799), brown antennae below, 6th tergite with a keel, hairs sticking
out on the 4th - I go to the female Andrena chrysopyga Schenck, 1853

This post was edited by Mantispid - 27.09.2013 07: 22

27.09.2013 11:32, алекс 2611

on the 3rd - I go to the male Melitta leporina (Panzer, 1799), brown antennae below, 6th tergite with a keel, hairs sticking
out on the 4th - I go to the female Andrena chrysopyga Schenck, 1853

I don't even know about Andrena. I have only two specimens of this type, from the Ulyanovsk and Saratov regions. Mine, according to the description, do not have a sling on the first tergite, but yours seems to have one. Oh, I'd like to spin these bees myself.

As for Melitta, it makes sense to remember that in the" green " determinant, for example, Melitta udmurtiaca, Melitta sibirica and Melitta wankowiczi are missing. And these species are found in the Volga region. If you are interested, I have a monograph on this genera
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27.09.2013 13:42, akulich-sibiria

Alexey, can I also get a monograph on melittas? I have an article from zootaxa on this kind, but something else will never hurt ))

27.09.2013 16:12, Mantispid

In general, most of the bees turned out to be militurists, but now I found another one like this. What can it be?

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27.09.2013 16:22, Mantispid

Also Andrena?

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27.09.2013 17:19, алекс 2611

In general, most of the bees turned out to be militurists, but now I found another one like this. What can it be?

You will laugh, but this is also melitturga, only female smile.gif
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27.09.2013 17:20, алекс 2611

Also Andrena?

Noooo, this is some galikt.
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27.09.2013 17:24, алекс 2611

Alexey, can I also get a monograph on melittas? I have an article from zootaxa on this kind, but something else will never hurt ))

By the way, I have quite good revisions for the Dasypoda and Macropis genera as well.
However (just now I realized) everything is in French. I was learning French, it's easy for me.
What's this article about melittas from Zootaxa? I don't seem to have any.

27.09.2013 17:50, Mantispid

Noooo, this is some kind of galictus.

kapets, I'm confused frown.gif

27.09.2013 18:20, алекс 2611

kapets, I'm confused frown.gif

In halicts, the vein that runs from the pterostigma through the middle of the wing bends sharply. In Andren, this one bends slightly. Compare Andren and galiktov, you can see right away. Well, female halicts on the 6th tergite have such a longitudinal groove.
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27.09.2013 18:30, алекс 2611

kapets, I'm confused frown.gif

Ilya, in general, I sent two photos to the contact, where I highlighted the difference in wing venation in red

27.09.2013 18:32, apismen

Good afternoon!
Maybe someone can help me determine the membrane is not at the stage of imago, and cocoons.
Here's an example:
1. These are Osmia (fig. 3877)
2. These are Shertobits (fig. 3865)
3. These Are Litho Cutters (fig. 3882)
4. I don't know who it is (fig. 3862)
The septa are made of chewed greens, as is usually the case in solitary wasps, but the phycalia are clearly from eating pollen like bees. I don't hope for an exact answer, at least what your assumptions are. In the end, what I need is to find out the time of departure of this insect.
I hope for your help.

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27.09.2013 18:52, Mantispid

In halicts, the vein that runs from the pterostigma through the middle of the wing bends sharply. In Andren, this one bends slightly. Compare Andren and galiktov, you can see right away. Well, female halicts on the 6th tergite have such a longitudinal groove.

thank you, I'll try to take a look, and then there are a lot of bees and all the same smile.gif

28.09.2013 18:37, Коллекционер

Eumenes ?coarctatus
user posted image
Voronezh, mixed forest, leto

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