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Identification of Orthoptera (grasshoppers, crickets, etc.)

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22.08.2011 10:56, grasshopper

Please help me identify a pryamopteran by its verbal description, met 21.08.2011. Location-Ukraine, vicinity of Dneprodzerzhinsk, Dnipropetrovsk region. I met something from the short-whiskered pryamoptera, I think that based on the size of this species, it is easy for a specialist to determine. Dimensions-I think really 90-100 mm., it looked just huge, I imagine the size grid for straight-winged birds is not bad, I often meet a dybka, akrid in nature, and so, the dimensions of this specimen were simply impressive. ( I'm a zoologist by training, and in our area it's hard to surprise me with anything ) Color-the elytra are green, the eyes and pronotum are dark crimson. I was surprised by the visual acuity, I didn't let anyone get closer than 3 meters to me. Spooked, flew 10-20 m. Unfortunately, it was not possible to take a picture, although the photo equipment was at hand, I wanted to take a picture in the vicinity, but after 4-5 flights the copy flew away.
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22.08.2011 11:38, DanMar

Dimensions-I think really 90-100 mm.,


It seems to me that this is a migratory locust, but it doesn't seem to grow more than 7 cm.
Looks like it?
user posted image


And the Egyptian filly has a dark gray color, but sometimes grows to the size that you wrote. And lives on south

22.08.2011 13:29, Anax chernobila

What about my prusses?

22.08.2011 14:44, Decticus

Italian prus (Calliptamus italicus).
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22.08.2011 16:08, grasshopper

It seems to me that this is a migratory locust, but it doesn't seem to grow more than 7 cm.
Looks like it?

To be honest, not really. The specimen he saw was clearly larger. And the pronotum is not dark crimson. The underside of the wings of the seen specimen is pale green, maybe this will help determine. Well, in addition to the size, I was surprised by the visual acuity, from three meters it clearly detected me and moved.

22.08.2011 19:15, Коллекционер

Voronezh, yesterday, the grassy slope
is Dybki? will they grow up again?what should I feed them?picture: P1010878.JPGpicture: P1010879.JPGpicture: P1010880.JPG

22.08.2011 19:53, Dichelima

... are these holes?
No, it is Leptophyes albovittata (Kollar, 1833). Family Tettigoniidae, subfamily Phaneropterinae, tribe Barbitistini.
.. will they grow up again?
No, this is already an imago.
...what should I feed them?
They are herbivorous. Feed with fresh green grass.

This post was edited by Dichelima - 08/22/2011 19: 54

23.08.2011 16:18, DanMar

To be honest, not really. The specimen he saw was clearly larger. And the pronotum is not dark crimson. The underside of the wings of the seen specimen is pale green, maybe this will help determine. Well, in addition to the size, I was surprised by the visual acuity, from three meters it clearly detected me and moved.

Migratory locusts have a variety of colors. Just a week ago, I met this species for the first time, near Kiev, and a female. She sees really well, and when I rode my bike up to her, she took off in 3-4 meters. The wings are light yellow, the grasshopper is green, longer than the viridissima due to its elongated belly, but less massive than the grey grasshopper. With wings, it barely reaches up to 6 cm, and the body 4-5. The whole thing is green with spots on the wings. And what was the approximate image of your insect, most interesting? It's a pity that I'm not very good at locusts, especially in taxonomy. But in general, according to locusts, nothing larger than the migratory locust seems to be found in this area.
Unfortunately, it is not possible to find anything on the Internet about locusts in central Ukraine, everywhere in the results fall out stupid cries of the media about "locusts in Kiev" and "the Dnepropetrovsk region was attacked by a migratory locust". Kapets, so annoying.
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23.08.2011 17:35, Dichelima

... help us identify a straight-winged bird by its verbal description ...
From your description, grasshopper, you'd think it was a migratory locust. It behaves very similarly. But there is a high probability that this is not it. Catch it and send us a photo. With straight-winged birds from Ukraine, it seems that there were no problems with the definition. smile.gif

23.08.2011 22:14, Evgenich

I couldn't tell if it was a grasshopper or a praying mantis.confused.gif Caught in June 2011 in southern China's Yunnan Province near the border with Vietnam, Laos and Burma.

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24.08.2011 1:25, DanMar

It doesn't look much like a grasshopper, especially with its whiskers and limbs. and about the head there is nothing to say at all, as it seems to me that this is some kind of privedenevoe
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24.08.2011 10:10, BO.

Good afternoon!
Heteracris pterosticha.
Male melon filly.
right?
Astrakhan.

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24.08.2011 11:08, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

I couldn't tell if it was a grasshopper or a praying mantis.confused.gif Caught in June 2011 in southern China's Yunnan Province near the border with Vietnam, Laos and Burma.


Stickworm (order Phasmida).
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24.08.2011 12:11, Dichelima

.. a grasshopper or a praying mantis.
Dear Yevgenich, this insect does not belong to the order Orthoptera at all. Most likely, this is some kind of stick insect. But I don't understand them. confused.gif
.. In southern China, Yunnan Province is located near the borders with Vietnam, Laos and Burma.
And the territory you write about is very interesting! Could you send me a photo of some grasshoppers, crickets, or locust bats from there?

24.08.2011 12:30, Dichelima

... Heteracris pterosticha ...
I'm not sure exactly. I'm interested in the insect's prothorax from a lower angle and the upper edge in higher resolution. Send us more photos and we'll tell you exactly. But for now, I can only point out some photos that are already on our site. See here: http://molbiol.ru/pictures/83922.html http://molbiol.ru/forums/lofiversion/index...33669-1000.html

This post was edited by Dichelima - 24.08.2011 12: 30

24.08.2011 12:44, Evgenich

Dichelima
Dear Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg has already explained everything about stick insects to me. Thank you. I posted the grasshopper along with other insects in the topic "Fishing reports" (p.150). I duplicate it at your request smile.gif

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24.08.2011 12:54, Dichelima

I posted the grasshopper along with other insects in the topic "Fishing reports" (p.150). I duplicate it at your request smile.gif
Ukhta! Class!

24.08.2011 13:19, Evgenich

Several dozen different species of Dichelima grasshoppers have been collected. This one was the largest (about 10 cm), so I took a picture of it. All the material will be sent to ZIN Gorokhov.
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24.08.2011 15:09, BO.

I'm not sure exactly. I'm interested in the insect's prothorax from a lower angle and the upper edge in higher resolution. Send us more photos and we'll tell you exactly. But for now, I can only point out some photos that are already on our site. See here: http://molbiol.ru/pictures/83922.html 

the first photo is mine smile.gif, I was confused by the color, or are there morphs green, cream?

This post was edited by BO. - 24.08.2011 15: 19

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24.08.2011 16:16, nikittokkk

Several grasshoppers from the Pushkinsky district of the Moscow region. Taken in mid-August.

1.picture: 16.jpg

2.picture: 17.jpg

3.picture: 23.jpg

Thank you in advance!

24.08.2011 18:48, Dichelima

Several grasshoppers from the Pushkinsky district of the Moscow region. Taken in mid-August.
I think that:
1. - Stethophyma grossum (Linnaeus, 1758), female;
2. - Chorthippus dorsatus (Zetterstedt, 1821), female;
3. - I don't know exactly, but it may be Chorthippus dorsatus (Zetterstedt, 1821), male.

This post was edited by Dichelima - 24.08.2011 18: 55

24.08.2011 19:07, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

  Several dozen different species of Dichelima grasshoppers have been collected. This one was the largest (about 10 cm), so I took a picture of it. All the material will be sent to ZIN Gorokhov.


This is Mecopoda sp. (Mecopodinae), in my opinion, it has already been defined in the relevant topic? The animal is very characteristic.
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24.08.2011 19:12, Dichelima

the first photo is mine smile.gif, I was confused by the color, or are there morphs green, cream?
Well, most likely both the first and second photos show the same insect that you sent us. Variations in coloration are not particularly important - the most important thing is morphology. In Heteracris pterosticha, there should be a prominent bump or protrusion on the anterior thorax between the forelegs, and the upper keel of the hind thighs is finely serrated. It is advisable that you photograph the same insect again and from different angles. Although, however, I still tend to believe that yes-it is Heteracris pterosticha (Fischer von Waldheim, 1833) .
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24.08.2011 19:39, Dichelima

Several dozen different types of grasshoppers were collected.
So you post more photos, and not only kuzechikov, but also other straight-winged ones! mol.gif mol.gif mol.gif mol.gif mol.gif mol.gif

This post was edited by Dichelima - 24.08.2011 23: 23

24.08.2011 21:03, Anax chernobila

Yes, please!!! mol.gif mol.gif mol.gif mol.gif mol.gif mol.gif
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25.08.2011 17:15, DanMar

So I'll do it. Here, these two were caught near Kiev recently, more precisely in the water meadows of desna, on the sand near the lake. They were caught at different times, but almost in the same place. This is my first experience with this species, as I understand it, it is a migratory locust. The character is certainly very elegant. Both females? Is it possible to get offspring from them? There would be a great culture, no problem to feed, they live very closely and do not cannibalize, unlike crickets. As food for dybok-generally super. Flies and sees, of course, great. Their color and physique are slightly different, is this a single phase?

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25.08.2011 22:11, Evgenich

So you post more photos, and not only kuzechikov, but also other straight-winged ones! mol.gif  mol.gif  mol.gif mol.gif  mol.gif  mol.gif

Dichelima, Anax chernobila
The other grasshoppers were pickled! I didn't photograph them. Now the alcohol material has been disassembled, it is in the possession of my friends, who will transfer it to the ZIN in a few days.
I can put up one photo from last year (I've already put it up for identification)

I helped you identify Dracus. For which he once again thanks a lot!!! By the way, the view is a relic, described from the collections of my friends.

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25.08.2011 23:32, Dichelima

This is my first experience with this species, as I understand it, it is a migratory locust.
Yes, it is - Locusta migratoria (Linnaeus, 1758).
Both females? Is it possible to get offspring from them?
Yes, most likely both are females. But if in doubt, you should check if the ovipositor is present. The structure of the genital area is as follows: http://i.piccy.info/i5/01/21/1902101/Polovye_otlychyia.jpg They can also reproduce parthenogenetically, but I do not know what factors affect reproduction by parthenogenesis.
Their color and physique are slightly different, is this a single phase?
Yes, this is a single phase. In the solitary phase, the median keel of the pronotum is arched in profile (Fig. 9), while in the gregarious phase it is straight or concave (Fig. 10).: http://i.piccy.info/i5/77/22/1902277/Fazy.jpg
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25.08.2011 23:37, Dichelima

26.08.2011 9:11, Evgenich

Tarragoilus Gorochov, 2001-it was originally described by Gorokhov. I'm sorry, is it by any chance that the material will be transferred to the wrong Gorokhov? Who is Gorokhov?

The one. smile.gif Andrey Vasilyevich Gorokhov-Doctor of Biological Sciences, one of the leading specialists in blacksmiths, works in ZINA.
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26.08.2011 10:30, BO.

Tell me what kind of animal it is.
Astrakhan, size 2.5 cm.

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26.08.2011 10:41, Bad Den

Tell me what kind of animal it is.
Astrakhan, size 2.5 cm.

Pipefish (Ocecanthus sp.)
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26.08.2011 10:52, John-ST

A couple of times I came across animals in the Crimea similar to a single locust form, but completely green (including elytra) only the abdominal side, the lower legs of the hind legs, the first and second pair of legs (maybe also only the lower legs I don't remember exactly) yellow, both times they were in the bushes in the city, pretending to be leaves. Is this the color form of a migratory locust or some other species?

26.08.2011 13:15, Ldarro

Friends!

Please help me identify the filly.

user posted image

Photographed in early August in the mountains of Uzbekistan, Tashkent region.

26.08.2011 14:06, DanMar

Friends!

Please help me identify the filly.


Photographed in early August in the mountains of Uzbekistan, Tashkent region.


Is it a filly ?blue-winged bird (Oedipoda ?caerulescens)


user posted image

This post was edited by DanMar - 26.08.2011 14: 16

26.08.2011 21:10, Ldarro

Is it a filly ?blue-winged bird (Oedipoda ?caerulescens)


Thank you very much!!!!!

This post was edited by Ldarro - 26.08.2011 22: 45

26.08.2011 22:04, Olearius

I have collected material on erect wings for this season, mainly in the steppe zone.
I will slowly spread it out for definition ...

Voronezh region, mid-August, floodplain meadow.

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26.08.2011 22:13, Vlad Proklov

I have collected material on erect wings for this season, mainly in the steppe zone.
I will slowly spread it out for definition ...

Voronezh region, mid-August, floodplain meadow.

Stethophyma grossum
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26.08.2011 22:24, Olearius

And this is a straight-winged one at the end of August in the Leningrad region.
picture: DSCN7212_.jpg

26.08.2011 23:15, Dichelima

And this is a straight-winged one at the end of August in the Leningrad region.
I think it is Chorthippus parallelus (Zetterstedt, 1821). Male, look at the female in the next message:

Edited: Sorry, error! Rather than Chorthippus parallelus (Zetterstedt, 1821), it is Chorthippus montanus (Charpentier, 1825).

1.) Chorthippus parallelus (Zetterstedt, 1821).
user posted image
Male.
user posted image
Female

2.) Chorthippus montanus (Charpentier, 1825).
user posted image
Male.
user posted image
The female.

This post was edited by Dichelima - 08/27/2011 13: 29
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