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Identification of beetles (Coleoptera)

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17.09.2009 17:43, Stas Shinkarenko

A pair of ground beetles from the vicinity of Volgograd. 13.09.09
1. C. ?hungaricus
2. C. ?bessarabicus
is not always possible for me to distinguish them - both beetles are smaller in size than the "strednestatisticheskoy" hungariki, maybe males...

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17.09.2009 18:12, evk

The first one is 100% hungaricus (female), the second one is 90% aka-there is no other angle? And where did you break his paws wink.giflike that ?
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17.09.2009 18:14, Stas Shinkarenko

The first one is 100% hungaricus (female), the second one is 90% aka-there is no other angle? And where did you break his paws wink.giflike that ?

Just these angles - wink.gifI took only a few pictures with these friends and couldn't get them to stop again. And his paws are stuck in the sand smile.gif

17.09.2009 18:19, RippeR

the second one is unclear. Either Zungar or Bessarabia. But still, it doesn't seem to have the right pronotum shape, at least not to be considered Bessarabian.
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17.09.2009 18:29, evk

And his paws are stuck in the sand smile.gif

smile.gif wink.gif
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18.09.2009 19:57, Liparus

help with barbels
# 2)Kharkiv region, private plot
No. 3 on 01.07.2008) (with shrubby willow)female 12 mm 7-9. 06. 2007

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18.09.2009 20:00, vasiliy-feoktistov

help with barbels
# 2)Kharkiv region, private plot
No. 3 on 01.07.2008) (with shrubby willow)female 12 mm 7-9. 06. 2007

Well I wrote my guess earlier here: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry942893

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 18.09.2009 20: 02

18.09.2009 20:09, vasiliy-feoktistov

Re: Liparus, by the way, get them out of there for now. smile.gif

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18.09.2009 20:12, Fornax13

1-Anaesthetis testacea like...
As for Ropalopus, I would also say that 2 is R. clavipes, and 3 is R. macropus

19.09.2009 11:07, Mantispid

I suggest you continue the nutcracker theme

Saratov, 11.06.06

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19.09.2009 12:00, evk

I suggest you continue the nutcracker theme

And to continue-write where and when wink.gif

19.09.2009 14:54, Liparus

help me determine it.Kharkiv
larinus is smaller than L. sturnus

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19.09.2009 15:33, Fornax13

1-isn't it Rhaphitropis marchicus?
2-Larinus, in my opinion, type beckeri-muddy animals...

19.09.2009 17:51, Liparus

1-isn't it Rhaphitropis marchicus?
2-Larinus, in my opinion, type beckeri-muddy animals...

1 like a male Rhaphitropis marchicus
and larinus jacaceae can not be?

19.09.2009 18:36, Fornax13

If the trunk is thinner than the thighs, then not jaceae, but beckeri. And so-they look similar.
Jaceae group is even worse than beckeri)

19.09.2009 23:10, Dr. Niko

Friends, maybe someone knows this species? On the mushroom Hydnum repandum (Yellow hedgehog). Slovenia. The size is approximately 0.8 mm. Apparently Ptiliidae.

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20.09.2009 0:14, NicoSander

What kind of ground beetle? Vologda region, September.

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20.09.2009 7:44, Mantispid

Dr. Niko, it's definitely not Ptiliidae, maybe something from Leiodidae?

20.09.2009 10:09, RippeR

NicoSander:
Archicarabus nemoralis?
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20.09.2009 12:25, Юстус

Help, PLZ, determine. South Kazakhstan, May.

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20.09.2009 15:45, evk

Help, PLZ, determine. South Kazakhstan, May.

The first is some Bothynoderes, possibly vexatus (Gyllenhal, 1834).
The third is Conorhynchus ?nigrivittis Pall.

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20.09.2009 16:00, akulich-sibiria

Help, PLZ, determine. South Kazakhstan, May.


Justus, you have such specialists in elephants in Novosibirsk!! Can't I show them?? smile.gif
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20.09.2009 19:32, Юстус

On the forum, here, and there are not" such " specialists yet, as experience shows. jump.gif

20.09.2009 19:44, Fornax13

Help, PLZ, determine. South Kazakhstan, May.

2 - what size?
3-rather Conorhynchus faldermanni, it's hard to tell from the photo.

Friends, maybe someone knows this species? On the mushroom Hydnum repandum (Yellow hedgehog). Slovenia. The size is approximately 0.8 mm. Apparently Ptiliidae.

Are there any other photos? The sawyere should be looked at. Not a featherbed, of course. I don't feel like leiodide either.
Perhaps a cryptophagid like Curelius, but not a fact.

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20.09.2009 20:10, evk

3-rather Conorhynchus faldermanni, it's hard to tell from the photo.

Really! That's why I put the question. We have no faldermanni in the Trans-Volga fauna (northern Kazakhstan actually) (at least not found yet smile.gif)

20.09.2009 20:19, Fornax13

I have faldermanni with a user interface. Habitually, the beetle from the photo looks more like him than our nigrivittis smile.gif
But the second one is very familiar, I don't know what... confused.gif

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20.09.2009 20:43, Dr. Niko


Are there any other photos? The sawyere should be looked at. Not a featherbed, of course. I don't feel like leiodide either.
Perhaps a cryptophagid like Curelius, but not a fact.

Unfortunately not. frown.gif
Thanks for that, too. smile.gif

20.09.2009 21:22, Юстус

2 - what size?

16-17 mm
. " South.Kazakhstan" is the former.(?) Dzhambul region, district (former) of the village. Furmanovka, a stretch of sandy desert near the bank of the Chu River.
In the photo, this is almost invisible, but at the ends of the elytra - almost white spots.

This post was edited by Justus - 09/20/2009 21: 26

20.09.2009 23:20, Liparus

Help, PLZ, determine. South Kazakhstan, May.

2)Conorhynchus ?faldermanni
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21.09.2009 9:40, vasiliy-feoktistov

Hello. Please help me deal with Clit. It was caught on aspen at the same time as Xylotrechus rusticus (maybe some form of it?), here: M. O. Lyuberetsky district of the okr. der. Torbeevo.

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21.09.2009 9:45, Frantic

Xylotrechus rusticus is, IMHO.
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21.09.2009 9:54, vasiliy-feoktistov

Xylotrechus rusticus is, IMHO.

Thank you, and then the doubt arose. X. rusticus I posted here earlier: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry942205

21.09.2009 14:53, vasiliy-feoktistov

And why you don't want to curl your legs, look at how RippeR barbels are generally cool...

Standard editing is done to save space (I have my own edit)-I don't like the standard (you can't see many details). I apologize to everyone for writing off-topic, but I want to answer and give a couple of examples:
Example 1. # 1 is a classic form, and #2 is the catch (both with their legs spread out).
Example 2. You can spread a beetle like this (there are no criteria for editing beetles).

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21.09.2009 17:23, rpanin

Standard editing is done to save space (I have my own edit)-I don't like the standard (you can't see many details). I apologize to everyone for writing off-topic, but I want to answer and give a couple of examples:
Example 1. # 1 is a classic form, and #2 is the catch (both with their legs spread out).
Example 2. You can spread a beetle like this (there are no criteria for editing beetles).

My subjective opinion:
With such a spread, with careless movement, everything breaks very easily.
I used to do that, too...
Then for a long time I glued and cursed myself.
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21.09.2009 17:32, vasiliy-feoktistov

My subjective opinion:
With such a spread, with careless movement, everything breaks very easily.
I used to do that, too...
Then for a long time I glued and cursed myself.

Yes, sometimes I swear too.
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21.09.2009 17:50, Victor Titov

Standard editing is done to save space (I have my own edit)-I don't like the standard (you can't see many details). I apologize to everyone for writing off-topic, but I want to answer and give a couple of examples:
Example 1. # 1 is a classic form, and #2 is the catch (both with their legs spread out).
Example 2. You can spread a beetle like this (there are no criteria for editing beetles).

I will also allow myself to express my own subjective opinion: in my opinion, the legs of beetles are too far away from the body (I would say, even unnaturally far - the beetle is unlikely to adopt such a "raskoryachennuyu" pose during life). It is much more attractive (and practical!) when the position of the legs of a straightened beetle is close to that shown in the drawings in the atlas (naturally symmetrical), and the antennae, if they are relatively long, are turned back and "pass" along the body (the exception is the relatively short antennae of lamellids, elephants, etc. - then they are simply they are moved away from the head for better viewing).
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21.09.2009 18:03, vasiliy-feoktistov

Let me guess, did the middle legs or claws fall off more often

Yes, everything falls off (with careless handling, of course). Suggestion: Let's stop here (off topic).
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22.09.2009 10:18, vasiliy-feoktistov

Just want to clarify.
Is this Nivellia sanguinosa Gyllenhal, 1827? Or I'm wrong. The bug was caught on 18.06.2008 here:
M. O. Sergiev Posad district of okr. der. Golkovo, on the flowers of scabiosa.

22.09.2009 10:34, Victor Titov

Just want to clarify.
Is this Nivellia sanguinosa Gyllenhal, 1827? Or I'm wrong. The bug was caught on 18.06.2008 here:
M. O. Sergiev Posad district of okr. der. Golkovo, on the flowers of scabiosa.

It smile.gif yes.gifis
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22.09.2009 10:42, vasiliy-feoktistov

She smile.gif  yes.gif

Thank you, and something comes across me in a watery place and all confused. Sincerely, Vasily. jump.gif

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