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15.01.2019 22:57, MIV

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Strano, where did her males go? I've never met him here. Whereas L. hirtaria flies en masse in the spring, although only males do.

16.01.2019 6:51, Konung

Strano, where did her males go? I've never met him here. Whereas L. hirtaria flies en masse in the spring, although only males do.

pomonaria flies a little earlier and not for long. if you don't get to the right place at the right time, you can easily miss
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17.01.2019 2:16, John-ST

Help me determine it.

All MO, Railway to light

1. 17.07.2016
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2. 17.07.2016
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3. 17.07.2016
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4. 20.07.2016
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5. 25.07.2016
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6. 29.07.2016
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7. 02.08.2016
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8. 02.05.2017
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9. 08.07.2017
umbratica?
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17.01.2019 16:54, vidjl

Help me determine it.

All MO, Railway to light

1 – Oligia sp. it may be strigilis
2-Oligia sp.
3 - probably Photedes fluxa
4-Hoplodrina blanda
5-Mesapamea sp., maybe secalis
6-looks like pale
Atypha pulmonaris 7-Anarta trifolii
8-Orthosia cruda
9 - Cucullia umbratica
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17.01.2019 17:27, Alexandr Zhakov

1 – Oligia sp. it may be strigilis
2-Oligia sp.
3 - probably Photedes fluxa
4-Hoplodrina blanda
5-Mesapamea sp., maybe secalis
6-looks like pale
Atypha pulmonaris 7-Anarta trifolii
8-Orthosia cruda
9-Cucullia umbratica

1 and 2 Mesoligia furuncula
6. without the size, I'd say Xestia baja
9. Without the size, I wouldn't say Cucullia umbratica
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17.01.2019 17:39, vidjl

1 and 2 Mesoligia furuncula
6. without the size, I'd say Xestia baja
9. Without the size, I wouldn't say Cucullia umbratica

1 and 2-As it is more like Oligia still similar
6-edging white around the spots no, also thought that Xestia baja
9 - still Cucullia umbratica

This post was edited by vidjl - 17.01.2019 17: 44

17.01.2019 17:41, John-ST

1 and 2 Mesoligia furuncula
9. Without the size, I wouldn't say Cucullia umbratica

what other option can there be besides umbratica?

17.01.2019 17:48, vidjl

what other option can there be besides umbratica?

For your region with such a pattern, no, Cucullia virgaureae is quite different.

This post was edited by vidjl - 17.01.2019 17: 50
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17.01.2019 17:51, Ilia Ustiantcev

what other option can there be besides umbratica?


We don't have any balsamitae in our region, and so on, even balsamitae and up to a bunch of dracunculi (they are smaller)

17.01.2019 18:00, Alexandr Zhakov

what other option can there be besides umbratica?

balsamitae, but they are smaller, and in the Moscow region, according to the photo, they seem to be there. smile.gif
https://insecta.pro/gallery/16343
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17.01.2019 19:14, vidjl

balsamitae, but they are smaller, and in the Moscow region, according to the photo, they seem to be there. smile.gif
https://insecta.pro/gallery/16343

I read a discussion on defining a view in a photo in insecta.pro. As I see it, there is also a typical umbratica, there is nothing extremely different from it, the basal stroke bordered by a light brown area is just as common, and balsamitae appears further, in the Samara, Nizhny Novgorod regions, and so on., of course, the specimen is most likely not caught, and there is no question of cooking maybe probably smile.gif

17.01.2019 19:19, svm2

I'm for balsamitae

17.01.2019 19:27, vidjl

I'm for balsamitae

Maybe I'm not arguing, maybe it's imported, a single copy.

17.01.2019 21:50, John-ST

Hung up with Eupithecia
All MO, Railway, on light

1. 03.06.2015
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2. 06.05.2016
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3. 06.05.2016
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4. 23.05.2016
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5. 23.05.2016
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6. 30.05.2016
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7. 14.06.2016
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8. 20.05.2017
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9. 07.09.2017
Eupithecia succenturiata stripped?
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10. 05.05.2018
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11. 06.05.2018
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17.01.2019 22:04, barko

Help me determine it.

All MO, Railway to light
9. 08.07.2017
umbratica?
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But here everything is the same as before.

umbratica and on insecta.about also umbratica
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17.01.2019 22:30, Alexandr Zhakov

Maybe I'm not arguing, maybe it's imported, a single copy.

Maybe. But faunas are constantly changing. What was impossible yesterday is becoming commonplace today. Over the past 10 years, 5 species of cuculias have been found in Ukraine, and they are not isolated finds, but in a number of regions and in significant numbers: Cucullia naruenensis, Cucullia inderiensis, Cucullia virgaureae, Cucullia gozmanyi and the latest discovery of Cucullia boryphora, 2017-2018 Caught in Zaporizhia, Kharkiv and Donetsk regions. The species that were known from isolated finds turned out to be local, but in significant numbers: Cucullia balsamitae, Cucullia magnifica, Cucullia pustulata, etc. Anything can happen.
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17.01.2019 22:33, MIV

Here and my moth look please.
Ocd. Krasnoyarsk, forest-steppe. 16.05.15.
Span kr. - 29mm

картинка: Ectropis_crepuscularia___Denis_et_Schiffermuller___1775__29________.____.____._______________________._16.05.15._leg.__.______.jpg

17.01.2019 22:34, Alexandr Zhakov

But here everything is the same as before.
umbratica and on insecta.about umbratica too

smile.gif In this case, I will not argue, you can make a mistake from other people's photos. Everyone makes mistakes. smile.gif
Without the size, I remain in my opinion. smile.gif

17.01.2019 22:59, Zhuk

Here and my moth look please.
Ocd. Krasnoyarsk, forest-steppe. 16.05.15.
Span kr. - 29mm

Ectropis crepuscularia
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18.01.2019 15:09, vidjl

Maybe. But faunas are constantly changing. What was impossible yesterday is becoming commonplace today. Over the past 10 years, 5 species of cuculias have been found in Ukraine, and they are not isolated finds, but in a number of regions and in significant numbers: Cucullia naruenensis, Cucullia inderiensis, Cucullia virgaureae, Cucullia gozmanyi and the latest discovery of Cucullia boryphora, 2017-2018 Caught in Zaporizhia, Kharkiv and Donetsk regions. The species that were known from isolated finds turned out to be local, but in significant numbers: Cucullia balsamitae, Cucullia magnifica, Cucullia pustulata, etc. Anything can happen.

Now climate changes are happening very significantly, I don't know about you, but in Siberia you can clearly see how the weather has changed, seasonal shifts, abnormal bursts of temperature, pressure and especially high humidity, various weather disasters. This contributes to the change in the species composition and the emergence of new species in places where they were not previously known.

18.01.2019 15:51, MIV

What kind of Hoplodrina came to light in a city apartment?

1. Krasnoyarsk. 16.07.18.
picture: Hoplodrina_sp.____________________________________._16.07.18._leg.__._______.jpg

2. And this one is from the old training camps in Khakassia. 4.08.09.
картинка: Hoplodrina_blanda__Denis___Schiffermuller__1775___________________.________________.____.__________._4.08.09._leg.__.______.jpg

18.01.2019 17:59, vidjl

What kind of Hoplodrina came to light in a city apartment?
1. Krasnoyarsk. 16.07.18.2
. And this one is from the old training camps in Khakassia. 4.08.09.

1-Hoplodrina blanda
2-in my opinion shabby Hoplodrina ambigua
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19.01.2019 4:49, Ольга Титова

Good afternoon! Maybe someone can help you figure out: Agonopterix propinquella and Agonopterix alstroemeriana? Or I'm wrong.
Sakhalin.

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19.01.2019 13:33, ярослав

Good afternoon.Tell me, isn't it Rheumaptera subhastata (NOLCKEN, 1870)? Wingspan 25 mm, caught 26.06.2018 in the Orenburg region on a tree.

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19.01.2019 17:20, vidjl

Good afternoon! Maybe someone can help you figure out: Agonopterix propinquella and Agonopterix alstroemeriana? Or I'm wrong.
Sakhalin.

True.
A. propinquella. You don't have an A. arenella that looks like it on Sakhalin, and it's August - early September. This one also overwinters.
Agonopterix alstroemeriana seems to be the same one, you can't confuse it, but it's not given for the region. If you have a hemlock tree, this is its food plant.

This post was edited by vidjl - 19.01.2019 17: 48
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19.01.2019 19:24, svm2

What kind of Hoplodrina came to light in a city apartment?

2. And this one is from the old training camps in Khakassia. 4.08.09.

Regarding ambigua, I strongly doubt, and the color is not the same and the shape of the wings ( at least in this picture).This is like a male - so it's easy to check, in ambigua, even with a 10x magnifying glass, the teeth on the antennae are visible, unlike other Hoplodrina.
Are you sure this is Hoplodrina?
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19.01.2019 19:56, Alexander Zarodov

Can you help me with fitzitina? MO, July, into the light.

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19.01.2019 23:54, Ilia Ustiantcev

Sciota marmorata smile.gif
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20.01.2019 0:43, John-ST

Both Lacanobia suasa?
MO, Railway, on light

18.05.2018
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18.05.2018
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20.01.2019 0:59, Sergeyy

Help me determine it. Is this Polyommatus icarus ?
Belarus. Minsk region 25. 07. 2018.

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20.01.2019 5:44, vidjl

Regarding ambigua, I strongly doubt, and the color is not the same and the shape of the wings ( at least in this picture).This is like a male - so it's easy to check, in ambigua, even with a 10x magnifying glass, the teeth on the antennae are visible, unlike other Hoplodrina.
Are you sure this is Hoplodrina?

To be honest, I also doubt that this is Hoplodrina. But if Hoplodrina, then ambigua is most suitable. The reniform spots are too large and, or too blurred (there is no hint of any pattern), or a different genus yet.
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20.01.2019 8:50, ярослав

[size=1]Help me determine it.Caught in the Orenburg region on 4.07.2018. Similar to Lihostege farinata. The span is 30 mm. Caught in a wet floodplain meadow.

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20.01.2019 9:49, svm2

Vrole as Gypsochroa renitidata
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20.01.2019 10:25, Vlad Proklov

[size=1]Help me determine it.Caught in the Orenburg region on 4.07.2018. Similar to Lihostege farinata. The span is 30 mm. Caught in a wet floodplain meadow.

Gypsochroa renitidata, of course!
Can I add a dot?

20.01.2019 11:43, ярослав

Good afternoon. Is this Aphelia stigmatana (Eversmann, 1844)? The wingspan is 19mm.Caught in the light in the Orenburg region on 7.07.2018.

Pictures:
picture: SDC16348.jpg
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20.01.2019 12:38, ярослав

Help with the definition.Caught in the light in the Orenburg region on 7.07.2018.The wingspan is 11 mm,the head is round,the labial palps are bent back.

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20.01.2019 12:42, barko

What kind of Hoplodrina came to light in a city apartment?
2. And this one is from the old training camps in Khakassia. 4.08.09.
картинка: Hoplodrina_blanda__Denis___Schiffermuller__1775___________________.________________.____.__________._4.08.09._leg.__.______.jpg
in Noctuinae, see.
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20.01.2019 13:01, ярослав

Gypsochroa renitidata, of course!
Can I add a dot?

51.85,54.97
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20.01.2019 13:51, Alexandr Zhakov

Good afternoon. Is this Aphelia stigmatana (Eversmann, 1844)? The wingspan is 19mm.Caught in the light in the Orenburg region on 7.07.2018.

Why not Clepsis pallidana? July is a bit late for Aphelia.

This post was edited by Djon-20.01.2019 13: 52

20.01.2019 14:10, Alexandr Zhakov

Help me determine it. Is this Polyommatus icarus ?
Belarus. Minsk region 25. 07. 2018.

Да.
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