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Identification of larvae and pupae

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24.01.2018 0:55, vidjl

Ukraine, Rivne region, April 26.
Zeuzera pyrina, or Apamea monoglypha ?

Zeuzera pyrina
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24.01.2018 1:06, baraum

In the refrigerator, it will not last until spring. Or die from the cold, or a butterfly will come out right in the refrigerator. Because in those owls that overwinter with caterpillars, pupae are not able to estivate.


And what should I do, I'm really upset frown.gif... and it's growing...

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24.01.2018 13:49, vidjl

And what should I do, I'm really upset frown.gif... and it's growing...

What can I say smile.gifhere Start collecting butterflies, or follow the advice above.

24.01.2018 14:46, ETI

Try putting lettuce leaves on a layer of good neutral earth, about 10 centimeters thick. Maybe the caterpillar will dig in and go into hibernation. Then it should be kept in the refrigerator.
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24.01.2018 15:55, baraum

Try putting lettuce leaves on a layer of good neutral earth, about 10 centimeters thick. Maybe the caterpillar will dig in and go into hibernation. Then you need to keep it in the refrigerator.


Sorry to ask too many questions. I'm very afraid that something is wrong to do. What does a good neutral land mean, here we have a continuous peat land, even in stores like smile.gifthis, and I don't understand the store processing at all, in the sense that there may be some chemicals added? Which one should I take from the pot? There is peat, will it do? Transfer to the cold gradually? And finally, here it is buried, and then how to determine that the caterpillar is not dead, or it will come to the surface before its last breath. And then I will get that in the refrigerator there is a coffin with a caterpillar frown.gifNow it sleeps in lettuce leaves. Moved to a cooler room. On the loggia it is now +6, but in general, what temperature should it be?

24.01.2018 16:06, baraum

What can I say smile.gifhere Start collecting butterflies, or follow the advice above.


I can't collect it, I wanted to release it, but it's cold there, I would have thrown it in the trash earlier and wouldn't have thought smile.gifabout it, but it's cold here, it's not good... confused.gif Oh, if it were summer, I wouldn't even ask myself such a question, I would release it and that's it. In the spring, in March, I'm going to Italy, maybe let it out there, throw it to a relative in the garden jump.gif...or customs will pick up a pest, that's fun. jump.gif Although everything that is not done is all for the best, before everything that looks like worms caused panic fear, and now, when I read your forum, and looked at it with a magnifying glass, I completely stopped being afraid and look at it completely differently...

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24.01.2018 16:57, okoem

And what should I do, I'm really upset frown.gif... and it's growing...

Judging by this photo, one of these days she will finish eating. Fill her box where she lives with soil. A layer of about 3 cm will be enough. It is better if the soil is moist. Peat or something else, there is no difference. When the caterpillar is buried, wait about a week, then dig out the pupa.
Put the pupa in a cardboard box or in any box that is not smooth from the inside, where the butterfly can crawl along the vertical wall. And wait for the butterfly.
Butterflies have no options, they are doomed. And you have such options:
- prick on a pin and straighten.
"let her out on the street, where she'll die."
- leave her at home, feed her, and watch her rub down, break off her wings, and turn into a corpse.

24.01.2018 18:46, baraum

  
Butterflies have no options, they are doomed. And you have such options:
- prick on a pin and straighten.
"let her out on the street, where she'll die."
"leave her at home, feed her, and watch her rub down, break off her wings, and turn into a corpse.


With such options, I think to do so, fill up the earth and take it out on the balcony, after a few days go to the forest and pour the earth into the snow and let it rest in peace...

24.01.2018 21:18, vidjl

With such options, I think to do so, fill up the earth and take it out on the balcony, after a few days go to the forest and pour the earth into the snow and let it rest in peace...

If you are not a fan of collecting, you can just bring out a butterfly. The butterfly lives a little more than a month, it may well live this period at your home, pleasing the eye in the middle of winter. It's easy to feed: put cut fruits from which she can drink juice. I do not think that it will quickly beat the wings, put it on the window so that it sees the light, you can put it in a five-liter plastic drinking water can. After leaving the pupa, it can generally sit for 5 days in one place. I now have about a dozen butterflies living in the middle of winter, new ones are constantly being born. Some on a needle, some just for the eyes. I and other entomologists certainly need a good copy, but you don't need it, so you can try it.
Here's what you should get smile.gif
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=398963

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24.01.2018 23:10, ETI

If the caterpillar falls asleep or pupates, why not keep it in the refrigerator until spring?
She should also have a diapause. To bring out the winter and watch it die is a sight for an amateur.

25.01.2018 0:19, baraum

If the caterpillar falls asleep or pupates, why not keep it in the refrigerator until spring?
She should also have a diapause. To bring out the winter and watch it die is a sight for an amateur.



Above, they wrote that this scoop "pupae are not able to estivate" about an amateur, now I've seen enough on YouTube, they keep it at home, live for about a week, fly around the apartment, some make it out of cage-type nets or whatever they are called. And some are specially bred in huge batches, one said for fireworks for the wedding eek.gifI think even in the summer, wherever it goes, they can fly apart on the street, but in winter? ... confused.gif

25.01.2018 0:25, baraum

I do not think that it will quickly beat the wings, put it on the window so that it sees the light, you can put it in a five-liter plastic drinking water can. After leaving the pupa, it can generally sit for 5 days in one place. I now have about a dozen butterflies living in the middle of winter, new ones are constantly being born. Some on a needle, some just for the eyes.[/url]


Well, I have a small choice, I'll try, today I noticed she is constantly hiding, I think you can already put the ground, it is written dry, I only have dry leaves from malochaya, figs knows if it is possible, it remains to figure out whether it is worth putting it in the cold, it will not go into hibernation 100%? Damn, I hope so... So I wanted to let out smile.gif

25.01.2018 0:59, vidjl

If the caterpillar goes into hibernation, then you can keep it in the refrigerator until spring, if it pupates, then the butterfly will come out, maybe right in the refrigerator, delay for a week or two, of course you can try, but not until spring.
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25.01.2018 1:02, vidjl

So I wanted to let them out on the street smile.gif

So you can watch the life of a butterfly, this is also not bad! smile.gif
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25.01.2018 1:18, baraum

If the caterpillar goes into hibernation, then you can keep it in the refrigerator until spring, if it pupates, then the butterfly will come out, maybe right in the refrigerator, delay for a week or two, of course you can try, but not until spring.


so I did everything wrong, I should have put it in a colder place right away? And now it's too late, it will not go into hibernation, although apparently in any case I will not make it to spring? Thank you for patiently responding. Put the earth, it is squeamish somehow reacts to it, does not want to go down, although it was sniffing around the box, now it is sitting in the leaves of the frellis, it is somehow sluggish...

25.01.2018 1:19, baraum

So you can watch the life of a butterfly, this is also not bad! smile.gif


Yes, this is very exciting, now I understand people who are passionate about butterflies smile.gif

25.01.2018 19:58, okoem

so I did everything wrong, I should have put it in a colder place right away? And now it's too late, it will not go into hibernation, although apparently in any case I will not make it to spring? Thank you for patiently responding. Put the earth, it is squeamish somehow reacts to it, does not want to go down, although it was sniffing around the box, now it is sitting in the leaves of the frellis, it is somehow sluggish...

If when you found it, it was already large, then even in the cold, even if not in the cold, there would not be much difference. I would eat and grow.
Scoops have a number of caterpillars that overwinter at early instars (i.e., small ones). There are also some species in which the caterpillar finishes feeding and then just sits there, not eating until spring. But your caterpillar, in my opinion, is not from this group.
If the soil is dry, then not all caterpillars like this. It is better to moisten the soil.
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26.01.2018 0:28, baraum

 
Scoops have a number of caterpillars that overwinter at early instars (i.e., small ones). There are also some species in which the caterpillar finishes feeding and then just sits there, not eating until spring. But your caterpillar, in my opinion, is not from this group.
If the soil is dry, then not all caterpillars like this. It is better to moisten the soil.


I found the caterpillar on the 20th on the refrigerator, where it came from I don't know. During these days, it has doubled in size. Now I found her in such a strange position - on her side, eating badly, and now I think she doesn't eat at all... I saw her still half buried in the ground, but now she just sits under the leaves and sleeps or something, when you disturb her, trying to hide... I sprayed the soil from a spray bottle on top or pour plenty of water?

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26.01.2018 1:16, vidjl

I found the caterpillar on the 20th on the refrigerator, where it came from I don't know. During these days, it has doubled in size. Now I found her in such a strange position - on her side, eating badly, and now I think she doesn't eat at all... I saw her still half buried in the ground, but now she just sits under the leaves and sleeps or something, when you disturb her, trying to hide... I sprayed the soil from a spray bottle on top or pour plenty of water?

Don't bother her any more, she'll be fine, sit down, and then bury herself.
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26.01.2018 10:05, baraum

Don't bother her any more, she'll be fine, sit down, and then bury herself.


she has already buried herself, now wait a week, then put this pupa in a box... or now it's warmer, maybe in a week to bury it in the ground in the forest, and then come what may... I don't want to watch her die."..

26.01.2018 10:13, okoem

maybe in a week to bury it in the ground in the forest,

When a caterpillar buries itself, it knows where and how to burrow, so that it can then get to the surface. If the pupa is buried forcibly, then it is not a fact that the butterfly will then be able to get out of the soil.
If you take it out into the forest, just put it on the ground and cover it with moss.
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26.01.2018 10:29, KM2200

Don't go into the woods! Don't you wonder what kind of butterfly it will be?

26.01.2018 12:54, baraum

When a caterpillar buries itself, it knows where and how to burrow, so that it can then get to the surface. If the pupa is buried forcibly, then it is not a fact that the butterfly will then be able to get out of the soil.
If you take it out to the forest, then just put it on the ground and cover it with moss on top.


There are swamps nearby, just right, and she can spend the winter? Or is it still impossible as they write it?

26.01.2018 12:56, baraum

Don't go into the woods! Don't you wonder what kind of butterfly it will be?


In the spring, it would be interesting, especially to let it out on the street, in the winter-it will be sad to watch... frown.gif

26.01.2018 14:46, okoem

will she be able to spend the winter?

I don't think so.

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26.01.2018 18:51, baraum

I don't think so.


It sucks, so you have to survive the death of a butterfly, this morning it was buried in the ground, how many days to get the pupa? Does she need humidity? Now heating, the air is dry.... I have an empty room with only a sofa and a chest of drawers, the rest can be safely pulled out so that it does not beat its wings... flowers can still be moved there, I have a pike tail and a big creeper, I think I'll put a box with a pupa there, and curtail the windows? Well, I'll be waiting... Also a week? I don't seem to have a choice...

26.01.2018 20:34, okoem

The pupa will probably be here in about a week, maybe ten days. I usually give the caterpillar moist soil and don't wet it anymore. But if you spray it lightly, it won't hurt, I think. No objects in the room will not interfere with the butterfly. It is in the bank that it will beat, and in the room it will fly freely. The room just might get so crammed in that you won't find it. At night, it will fly to the light, land on the window, for example. For food, you can put her half an apple sprinkled with sugar, or another fragrant fruit.
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26.01.2018 23:46, baraum

The pupa will probably be here in about a week, maybe ten days. I usually give the caterpillar moist soil and don't wet it anymore. But if you spray it lightly, it won't hurt, I think. No objects in the room will not interfere with the butterfly. It is in the bank that it will beat, and in the room it will fly freely. The room just might get so crammed in that you won't find it. At night, it will fly to the light, land on the window, for example. For nutrition, you can put her half an apple sprinkled with sugar, or another fragrant fruit.


And ... Thank you, I understand everything, I will wait for ten days... smile.gif

27.01.2018 10:06, ETI

Please identify the cocoonworm. He ate birch. The first image is taken on August 31, the second on September 29. He grew very slowly and ate very little. Pskov region.

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27.01.2018 11:30, insectamo

Please identify the cocoonworm. He ate birch. The first image is taken on August 31, the second on September 29. He grew very slowly and ate very little. Pskov region.

Lasiocampa quercus
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27.01.2018 16:53, ETI

Please identify more of this cocoonworm. Taken on May 30.
And a group on sorrel. Taken on May 27, Pskov region.

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27.01.2018 18:39, vidjl

Please identify more of this cocoonworm. Taken on May 30.
And a group on sorrel. Taken on May 27, Pskov region.

Trichiura crataegi and a group of young Malacosoma castrensis
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27.01.2018 19:29, ETI

This caterpillar hides in the inflorescence of wild carrots, pulling the edges together with a spider web. It also eats there.
The first image is taken on September 5, and the second one is taken on September 11. North-West of Russia.
I'd like to know who it is.

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27.01.2018 19:40, vidjl

This caterpillar hides in the inflorescence of wild carrots, pulling the edges together with a spider web. It also eats there.
The first image is taken on September 5, and the second one is taken on September 11. North-West of Russia.
I'd like to know who it is.

firefly Sitochroa palealis, younger below.

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28.01.2018 3:02, Gans75

Is it possible to identify the moth caterpillar ?
June 13
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28.01.2018 3:11, insectamo

Is it possible to identify the moth caterpillar ?
June 13


Ectropis crepuscularia
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28.01.2018 9:54, ETI

Tell me, what kind of bear is this? July 25.

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28.01.2018 10:46, okoem

Young Phragmatobia fuliginosa.
http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Phragmatobia_Fuliginosa
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28.01.2018 13:18, ETI

This caterpillar sat in a twisted raspberry leaf, feeding at night. In the picture before pupation - August 8. Pupated in a light cocoon among the grass. Pupa - August 24.
It looks like a fathead. Pskov region. I wanted to know the name of the butterfly.

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28.01.2018 14:46, John-ST

Help to deal with the bears
All Volgograd region. st-ts Nizhne-Chirskaya

1. 26.06.2016
Eilema complana or pseudocomplana?
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The other two are Diaphora mendica? They eat maiden grapes, but only young shoots.

2. 26.06.2016
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3. 27.06.2016
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