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12.03.2008 12:33, americanecz

As I wrote above, I looked at lotions that will make life easier for a "NIGHT CATCHER" with two light bulbs...
Somewhere above, I threw off the site of the electrical installation store... There's a bunch of sockets with timers... On any pocket!
Here I think to make my LIFE easier!!!
I think it's cool when you automatically observe the order of lamps! There's no need to poke around in the dark...
just sit there... Read... Beer... Relax in general!!! )))

12.03.2008 20:01, RippeR

yeah, and if a cool grandmother flies up, and then the hop and switching has begun smile.gif

12.03.2008 20:12, AntSkr

and if you turn on the second lamp while the first one is on, and turn it off when the second one is already on?

12.03.2008 20:43, americanecz

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COOL GRANDMOTHER!!!
Well, the duck can be applied in one or even in half a minute to stir up!!!

12.03.2008 22:08, Pavel Morozov

and if you turn on the second lamp while the first one is on, and turn it off when the second one is already on?

Exactly.

15.03.2008 9:05, okoem

By the way, the throttle for a more powerful lamp can be used for a less powerful one, at least the throttle for the DRL-700 works calmly with the DRL-400 lamp.

It works, but as far as I know, with this combination, the lamp will not live long: - (

15.03.2008 11:02, americanecz

People!
Such a question has matured...
In foreign stores, so-called "Cross-shaped sheets" are sold on rods (somewhere above the photo was posted) + UV lamp similar to a soldering iron!
Has anyone tried it???
Or maybe he uses it???

17.03.2008 1:59, Мих

Do mantises fly to the light? I know when males are so old that they're spinning everywhere..

17.03.2008 2:03, Vlad Proklov

Do mantises fly to the light? I know when males are so old that they're spinning everywhere..

They're flying. Iris oratoria and Mantis religiosa flew to me in Portugal.

17.03.2008 23:12, Pavel Morozov

fly and have a lamp trapeznichayut

18.03.2008 1:39, okoem

they fly and have a meal at the lamp

The same goes for mantispas.
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19.03.2008 22:27, Tigran Oganesov

Do mantises fly to the light? I know when males are so old that they're spinning everywhere..


Yeah, and to me in Sochi wood flew.

20.03.2008 11:21, Alexandr Rusinov

In Primorsky Krai, praying mantises actively fly to the light and accumulate in significant numbers under streetlights.

30.03.2008 13:14, gumenuk

If anyone is interested in data on a direct-on mercury lamp. I bought it today in Moscow at the Poultry Market. Sold in several pavilions of electrical equipment. There is also a lower power, but you need to ask for lamps without chokes and take them together with the cartridge. A 500-watt lamp costs 400 rubles.

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30.03.2008 14:40, okoem

If anyone is interested in data on a direct-on mercury lamp.

I want to draw your attention to some points.
To be precise, the lamp is called "D ugovaya R tutno-V olframovaya". In fact, this is a "two-in - one" - an ordinary incandescent lamp, in the flask of which a small mercury lamp was additionally placed. This design made it possible to solve two problems at once – to get rid of the throttle and get the most pleasant light spectrum for the eyes – the yellowish glow of the tungsten filament complements the bluish glow of the mercury lamp well.
The total power of both lamps in this case is 500 watts. In other words, catching on the DRV-500 is the same as catching on a simultaneously switched on D ugovaya R tutno-L yuministentnuyu lamp-250 and a conventional tungsten incandescent lamp-250. (250 + 250 I say very conditionally, the real power ratio is not known to me. However, according to my observations, the glow of the DRV compared to the DRL has a noticeable yellowish tint, which means that the power of both light sources that make up the filling of the DRV lamp is comparable).
I doubt that the inclusion of an additional incandescent lamp together with the DRL will lead to a significant increase in summer. Thus, my opinion is that if you catch stationary in the same place, then it will be more effective to use DRL. And if, for example, you go on a long trip, carry the equipment on yourself, then of course carrying the throttle with you is not a very pleasant experience and the DRV in this regard will be much more convenient.
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31.03.2008 1:20, Tyomochkin

I repeat) http://www.electro-mpo.ru/ - cheap and affordable)
At the dacha site, however, which is better-DRL250 or DRL400?

31.03.2008 9:01, omar

More than 250 doesn't really make sense.

31.03.2008 10:22, okoem

I can share this observation.
I caught it once in early May on the outskirts of a village in the steppe Crimea. DRV-250 lamp. I noticed that different species prefer different things - some species flew directly to the DRV and landed on the screen or nearby, while other species landed exclusively on the poorly lit white wall of the house about ten meters from the lamp, but did not fly up to the screen. And also about 15 meters from the DRV lamp, on the veranda hung a dried-up and therefore barely glowing with a bluish light daylight lamp (such a well-known long tube with a starter and throttle) - so near this lamp there were several species that were not on the screen or on the wall of the house.
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31.03.2008 11:44, Tyomochkin

We should try to hang the screen 10 meters away...

01.04.2008 20:55, mikee

Features of light fishing in Kenya tongue.gif http://www.entomoafricana.org/engl/chasse/kasikau.html
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01.04.2008 21:17, Nozer

Features of light fishing in Kenya tongue.gif

Yessmile.gif, after such photos, I immediately wanted to go to Kenya.

01.04.2008 21:57, Zhuk

Yessmile.gif, after such photos, I immediately wanted to go to Kenya.

Afiget! I can't show this, I almost felt bad smile.gifThey were sitting there in 3 layers!

01.04.2008 22:11, AntSkr

and how to collect them all? From morning to late evening... and then catch again...

01.04.2008 22:49, Grigory Grigoryev

In fact, with such a large number of insects, it is very difficult to search on the screen for those groups and species that are of interest (I do not consider commercial collection). You need to periodically sweep it all away, for example, in a bucket, and carry it away, because butterflies crawl over each other and erase the pattern on the wings from above, and you can't see anything.
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02.04.2008 15:45, Pavel Morozov

Features of light fishing in Kenya tongue.gif http://www.entomoafricana.org/engl/chasse/kasikau.html

there are no words. I felt uneasy.

02.04.2008 16:01, mikee

there are no words. I felt uneasy.

smile.gif Well, for the sake of objectivity, I must say that the other photos of night fishing, which are posted on the same site, do not make such an impression. It's a bit poor in some places, even by Moscow region standards. It was them somewhere in one place that was so much fun.
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02.04.2008 17:30, taler

Oh!Interesting!My wife was just trying to persuade me to go to Kenya the following year.So please send us the crocs of those places!

02.04.2008 23:32, mikee

Oh! Interesting!My wife was just trying to persuade me to go to Kenya the following year.So please send us the crocs of those places!

So what are the problems? Write to this very African Entomology. Addresses on the page http://www.entomoafricana.org/engl/equitech.html. They are entrenched in Belgium, it turns out smile.gif
And here are all the other fishing spots: http://www.entomoafricana.org/engl/chasse/pinuit.html

03.04.2008 7:53, treator

If anyone is interested in data on a direct-on mercury lamp. I bought it today in Moscow at the Poultry Market. Sold in several pavilions of electrical equipment. There is also a lower power, but you need to ask for lamps without chokes and take them together with the cartridge. A 500-watt lamp costs 400 rubles.

Is it possible to remove the phosphor in such lamps?

03.04.2008 8:50, okoem

Is it possible to remove the phosphor in such lamps?

I don't think so. I can't imagine how to do this without breaking the lamp. And you can not break the flask, because after that, the tungsten will burn out instantly.

07.04.2008 9:35, AntSkr

do they fly well to the bactericidal station? Is this the one that's shining blue? I just have one, is it worth it to catch it?

07.04.2008 10:16, svm2

They fly well, but you need to protect your eyes.I usually also use the usual 18-watt LED light, when I inspect the screen, I turn off the uvl

07.04.2008 10:50, Sergey Didenko

I bought a new lamp - ULTRA-VITALUX. From a regular cartridge without a transformer, 300 watts. I apply the spectral dependence in the figure. In the weekend I will conduct tests, but in the meantime, can anyone suggest its effectiveness for catching butterflies?

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07.04.2008 11:47, mikee

I bought a new lamp - ULTRA-VITALUX. From a regular cartridge without a transformer, 300 watts. I apply the spectral dependence in the figure. In the weekend I will conduct tests, but in the meantime, can anyone suggest its effectiveness for catching butterflies?

Where did you buy it and how much does it cost?

07.04.2008 12:44, omar

Is it mirrored or something?

07.04.2008 13:30, mikee

Is it mirrored or something?

Yes, there is an internal reflector. It shines with a 30-degree cone. The price range is from 1500 to 2500 rubles.
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07.04.2008 23:53, okoem

Yes, there is an internal reflector. It shines with a 30-degree cone. The price range is from 1500 to 2500 rubles.

I think that a cone of 30 gr. is not a good option. According to my observations, flying butterflies jumping out of the direct light from the lamp (for example, falling into the shadow of a building) often successfully fly away. IMHO, the ideal lamp should have an angle of 360 degrees. ie shine in all directions.

I apologize for continuing this offtop; I hope that the moderator will move the posts concerning the lamp to acc. subject : -)
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08.04.2008 7:33, Sergey Didenko

Indeed, the topic with the lamp was raised in the wrong forum.
Okoem is certainly right that the larger the lighting angle, the better. For this lamp, it was actually 100 degrees. So, tonight, from 11 pm, I conducted tests of a new lamp in a hurry. I caught it clearly at home in 2 km beyond the Moscow Ring Road, where the years, of course, are very weak. When fishing only on Ultra-vitalux, the summer intensity was approximately 1 butterfly per minute. When fishing for split DRL-250 approximately 5 per minute. When fishing at once on two lamps more than 10 per minute. Caught about 20 minutes per lamp. In general, a normal result. By the way, it shines with a more blue-purple hue than the DRL, and many butterflies flew to the two glowing lamps and spun around the new one. There are also doubts about the fact that if water gets on it in the rain, won't it burst right away? Once upon a time I had some kind of DSLR of this type, so the first drop broke it.

08.04.2008 8:06, treator

Indeed, the topic with the lamp was raised in the wrong forum.
Okoem is certainly right that the larger the lighting angle, the better. For this lamp, it was actually 100 degrees. So, tonight, from 11 pm, I conducted tests of a new lamp in a hurry. I caught it clearly at home in 2 km beyond the Moscow Ring Road, where the years, of course, are very weak. When fishing only on Ultra-vitalux, the summer intensity was approximately 1 butterfly per minute. When fishing for split DRL-250 approximately 5 per minute. When fishing at once on two lamps more than 10 per minute. Caught about 20 minutes per lamp. In general, a normal result. By the way, it shines with a more blue-purple hue than the DRL, and many butterflies flew to the two glowing lamps and spun around the new one. There are also doubts about the fact that if water gets on it in the rain, won't it burst right away? Once upon a time I had some kind of DSLR of this type, so the first drop broke it.

And what is the IP code of the lamp??

08.04.2008 10:16, Sergey Didenko

And what is the IP code of the lamp??

I write from work there is no lamp at hand, here is the full name-Osram Ultra-Vitalux 300, E27, 185x127x150, 1000

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