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Here is my catch in early September in the Vologda region. Kaduysky district. D. Pakino on DRL-250

This post was edited by NicoSander - 21.10.2008 22: 44

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Here is my catch in early September in the Vologda region. Kaduysky district. D. Pakino on DRL-250

Respect and respect
The catch is simply class

So I prepared for the next season. It remains to connect all this with wires and make a new design using light tripods and a new design scheme from pipes with a stretch of fabric.
And then sit there drooling and waiting for God knows how many warm days

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:About

I will have a cooler

So I prepared for the next season. It remains to connect all this with wires and make a new design using light tripods and a new design scheme from pipes with a stretch of fabric.
And then sit there drooling and waiting for God knows how many warm days

Internal throttle (large rectangular contraption)?

Internal throttle (large rectangular contraption)?

Yes, a big (not so big ) rectangular contraption in the lower-right corner. They called it ballast at the company, and they put all this shit together there, for the sake of checking its performance, and everything worked very well

This post was edited by Musson_max - 10/22/2008 23: 28

I'll have it cooler

If it's not a secret, what will you have? In fact, it's very interesting. Maybe something useful, or I'll learn something new (if it's just not a split DRL, I'm a non-split adherent )

Will be: (all non-gold) DRV 250 from one edge, DRL 250 from the other, and between them a lamp with a blue corkscrew. Oh, still with the generator to deal with-that's when I'll be the king
Otherwise, it stalls under load.

Will be: (all non-gold) DRV 250 from one edge, DRL 250 from the other, and between them a lamp with a blue corkscrew. Oh, still with the generator to deal with-that's when I'll be the king
Otherwise, it stalls under load.

Do you mean DRV on one side of the screen and DRL on the other side of the screen? And what is a "blue corkscrew lamp"? What is the power of your generator? And then I bought myself a 900WT.

This post was edited by Musson_max - 10/23/2008 10: 48

Lamp with a blue corkscrew - it's like in your picture. You can call it a "blue boiler lamp", but this does not change the essence. Mercury lamps will be placed on different sides of the large sheet, from the edges of it. 1000W generator.

And we caught not on the screen, but on such a dead Chinese tent. DRV lamp inside. There are obvious advantages. Gathers anywhere at once, flies from all directions, easy to collect insects.

And we caught not on the screen, but on such a dead Chinese tent. DRV lamp inside. There are obvious advantages. Gathers anywhere at once, flies from all directions, easy to collect insects.

At the expense of the lamp inside. Many of my friends from Slovakia, the Czech Republic and Slovenia catch on the pyramid.
Tripod covered with white artificial fabric. One or two UV tubes, powered by a battery, are suspended inside.
Quickly placed, quickly removed. In the common people it is called "Czech g .. don".

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There was here one I think having a future idea about the trap (sorry that in the baits). The idea is this. The trap is hung on a tree, or on a bush. I assume the use of low-power lamps, so that you can use the battery/battery to power the night...
The butterfly notices the light (you can also add something from the baits as an option). then it flies up to the lamp near entrance 1 (see photo). Next, the butterfly flies into the sleeve and flies to the lamp 2. There the butterfly circles the will of the light, and blinded can not find a way out. At this time, it is steamed in pairs, which will accumulate in sleeve 2. then the butterfly falls into sleeve 3 under the force of gravity and remains there. How do you like the idea?

  
The butterfly notices the light (you can also add something from the baits as an option). then it flies up to the lamp near entrance 1 (see photo). Next, the butterfly flies into the sleeve and flies to the lamp 2. There the butterfly circles the will of the light, and blinded can not find a way out. At this time, it is steamed in pairs, which will accumulate in sleeve 2. then the butterfly falls into sleeve 3 under the force of gravity and remains there. How do you like the idea?

As the main tank, you could use 5 (or even 10) liter plastic water bottles painted with dark paint. Somehow I tried to do something similar, but over time I was strained and the idea of development was not found, but I was supposed to have light sources made of 24-lumen LEDs (they shine much brighter than light bulbs from a flashlight, they cost around $ 1.5) powered by a 3 V tablet battery.


The question is how much the material will deteriorate, because even though there will be fumes soaking the insect, it will not be the only one there and while it falls asleep, it can severely injure what was caught first...

In general, I like the idea, we return to the classics (photoextractor after all)

then it flies up to the lamp near entrance 1 (see photo). Next, the butterfly flies into the sleeve and flies to the lamp 2.

And why should a butterfly fly to the first lamp and suddenly fly away from it? The butterfly will land on the first lamp or somewhere nearby. Moreover, the second lamp you have is not in direct line of sight from the first. Although something of course still gets inside.
As for LEDs, they give a directional light, so many butterflies fly up in zigzags and jump out of the beam, just fly away. For more efficient use of LEDs, their light must be defocused (for example, direct their beam not into space, but at the screen).

In the Moscow region, the weather is warm, but for some reason nothing flies at night, maybe the butterflies have nothing to eat, maybe something else. I saw the last butterfly on November 15. Although there are many wintering butterflies... Anyone else trying to catch it? What is the result? Or maybe someone knows why nothing is coming to the lamp right now?

Or maybe someone knows why nothing is coming to the lamp right now?

What kind of lamp? Where is it installed?
According to my observations, in winter nothing flies on the lamp, if it is a DRV or DRL 250 lamp installed on a balcony high from the ground. At the same time, the animals fly to a 20W lamp installed nearby. Also, winter animals fly well on ordinary incandescent lamps. For successful winter fishing, it is necessary to use low-power lamps installed close to ground level.

What's the point of fishing in the MO in winter? nothing interesting will come anyway, only wintering species...

2sdi
butterflies in winter must be. I have observed flying scoops at 0C. At subzero temperatures, I found a dustpan near the light, but I really didn't see any flying ones.

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. in general, it still seems to me that it's not the power of the lamp, but the proximity of its location to the places where the butterflies are located. After all, they do not make long-distance flights in low-temperature conditions.

2AntSkr
in this case, we are talking about the behavior of wintering species, and not about their interest and value. Although I am interested in the autumn-spring fauna of scoops and moths. Year after year, I examine each Conistra vaccinii specimen with undiminished interest.

I remember flying me Eupsilia transversa somewhere in early November on the DRL 250, hanging 2 meters from the ground. The temperature was sub-zero, because the grass was covered with frost...
Yes, spring and autumn butterflies are just the coolest!

2sdi
butterflies in winter must be. I have observed flying scoops at 0C. At subzero temperatures, I found a dustpan near the light, but I really didn't see any flying ones.

2
. in general, it still seems to me that it's not the power of the lamp, but the proximity of its location to the places where the butterflies are located. After all, they do not make long-distance flights in low-temperature conditions.

2AntSkr
in this case, we are talking about the behavior of wintering species, and not about their interest and value. Although I am interested in the autumn-spring fauna of scoops and moths. Year after year, I examine each Conistra vaccinii specimen with undiminished interest.

If you are not deceived with the weather on December 5, I will go to the dacha, maybe it's really because there are too few butterflies on the outskirts of Moscow, where I am currently fishing, and there are a lot of alternative light sources. In early spring, I caught even when the temperature at night dropped to-2-3 degrees, the first butterflies in Moscow this year appeared on February 26, but in December I never saw them.
Yes, vaccinii is also one of my favorite butterflies (probably because, as a rule, it is the first one flying after winter). She'll fly in, sit in the snow, and pretend to be dead...

I remember flying me Eupsilia transversa somewhere in early November on the DRL 250, hanging 2 meters from the ground. The temperature was sub-zero, because the grass was covered with frost...
Yes, spring and autumn butterflies are just the coolest!

And I will never forget how in March there was no free space on the tree with bait, there was so much Eupsilia transversa. And this despite the fact that there was a one-and-a-half-meter layer of snow around. This was my first and most vivid experience of baiting.

I'm sorry, I wrote a little clueless and will tell you more.
I catch at home, on the DRL-250 lamp (previously on the DRV-250). The lamp is located on the loggia, 5th floor. A few meters away is the window of the next room. Near the window there is a table, above the table a 20 W fluorescent lamp is permanently fixed, not for fishing, but just for lighting (a long one with a starter and throttle). And here's what I noticed-in the winter, the light of this lum. sometimes scoops fly (singly) and hit the glass. The DRL is turned off (I don't usually light a candle in winter). I go out on the loggia, turn on the DRL-and at least one butterfly! Not a single one. I turn off the DRL - and on the lum. the lamp starts flying again (singly). And this is even though it is located inside the room, from the street, (from the courtyard) the lamp itself is not visible.
In principle, it would be high time to install the same lum. a lamp on the balcony and try to catch it... Oh, but all hands do not reach...

Everything is clear now
And yet it's not about power, or rather not just in it alone. Apparently, the neighbor's lamp shines "constantly", and you turned on your own only after you noticed butterflies there. In late autumn and winter, you should start shining at 15:00 or 16:00. Butterflies arrive in the early evening and freeze, and new ones do not appear after that. This is probably why, due to late switching on, butterflies do not fly to your lamp.

Still, I do not understand why in the early spring in early March (with appropriate weather) on a "dead" low-power lamp rarely fly and units, and on DRL-250(400) in orderly rows. And in late autumn, they practically don't fly. And in general, despite the abnormally warm weather this fall, the years are, to put it mildly, aha. In the first days of November, I was in the Ryazan region, where there were no competitive light sources at all, and it flew even worse (only 3 types of scoops for a couple of pieces) than in Moscow at the same time, although it flew conditionally in Moscow. I'm not sure about the low position of the lamp either. At least in the spring at the dacha, after lifting the lamp from 2 meters to 3 meters, the intensity of summer increased and this seems natural to me - fewer bushes / trees cover the light source. About power... About ten years ago, I caught 500 watts of gallogen power. Despite the power, the brightness of the lamp is much less than that of the DRL-250, but it was in late autumn that butterflies flew to gallogenka (as it seems to me) much more. During this time, however, there were decent peat fires around the suburban areas, but in the summer and spring now there are definitely much more flights to the split DRL than before to the gallogenka. In Hungary, you can probably fish all year round and not think about why the crocodile is not caught in late autumn...

I agree with the barko hypothesis.
As for the small number of autumn butterflies, there were very few of them in the Moscow region this fall.

OK, here's the question. Has anyone ever caught something on a lamp in the Moscow Region, specifically in December-January?

I didn't catch it on purpose.
However, the winter before last (when it was 10 degrees Celsius), when I was on duty at a country clinic in Odintsovo district, I noticed light-gray moths or leafworms. It was January.

I think it will be interesting for entomologists-motorists.
I bought such a thing - a car voltage converter with 12 v 220 Volts. The output is 350 watts. As I was told, when the engine is TURNED ON, the battery discharge is painless and can plow as much as you want. I think that the DRL 250 and two UV lamps will pull, already the whole thing will weigh less than 1 kg. Yes, yes! Unlike small gasoline generators of 20 kg. weights.
I really want to try it to be honest. But this is only in those places where the car will pass, preferably a jeep of course
I don't know what else to say, we will wait for spring and GO AHEAD!!! If anyone is interested, then look here www.porto-accessories.com. I took mine for 350 watts. for 500 UAH. (~$70).
     
  

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I think it will be interesting for entomologists-motorists.

I think that when you go by car, what 1 kg to carry, what 20-there is no difference. And if you use it offline, then add the weight of the battery to it. But in general, the car converter is already discussed in this topic.

I think it will be interesting for entomologists-motorists.

Two years ago I bought such a converter and the first thing I did was connect a 160 W lamp through it to a small 12V 4Ah battery. The lamp burned for less than a minute. Of course, the car battery is more powerful, but you still have to leave the engine running for the entire time of fishing.

In fact, the only difference between the "converter" or "generator" options is that in the case of a converter, the car engine acts as the generator's gasoline engine. Personally, I think that the generator option is better - for example, in the spring of this year we left the car in Sudak, near the highway, and we climbed the mountainside with the generator, there is such a path that no Jeep will pass. If we had a converter, this fishing slope would not be available to us.

This post was edited by okoem-09.12.2008 00: 02

I understand, of course, that if you drive a car, then you think it doesn't matter. But what about simple convenience? To carry 20 kg out of the car and into it, plus 5 liters of gasoline (minimum), etc., etc., and then I started the car, connected the wire and that's it.
Yes, I understand that the engine will be turned on all the time of fishing, but the gas generator is also turned on, and another question is what makes less noise.
I agree that it may be 10 percent more expensive in terms of gasoline/diesel consumption, but still, these are all also controversial issues.
I also agree that it is simply impractical to use a separate battery, because a normal 45-60 Ah car battery will work for 40 minutes without the engine on, maybe an hour with minutes, which is not good when fishing, and the weight of such a battery is also not weak.

Of course, I agree that this is not an option for really remote fishing spots, where the car will not pass, there is no place without a generator, and this is a fact with which I will never even try to argue, but for other places I think that this option should not be neglected.

I repeat once again that I just bought it and will try it for the first time next season, but I think that it will be much more convenient than a gas generator (if there is a car, of course). Although I have a gas generator (the one that is 20 kg.) at 900 watts. and I will also only try it next season. So I will be able to tell everyone about the amenities and inconveniences of all this, but only in the next season.

This post was edited by Musson_max-09.12.2008 00: 01

okoem: "Something's not right here. Let the converter with all losses eat even one and a half Amperes - it should still burn for three hours on a fresh battery. The laws of physics have not yet been abolished."


There is such a clever formula that extracts the amount of approximate battery life when using the converter, but not when the engine is running. It is listed in the operating instructions of this device. The formula is as follows:

T = (C x 8,5) / P

where T is the approximate battery/battery life (h)
C is the battery power (Ah)
P is the amount of power consumed (Watt)

This post was edited by Musson_max - 09.12.2008 00: 29

But what about simple convenience? Carry 20 kg out of the car and into it, plus 5 liters of gasoline

I used a generator, and I would not say that carrying it 20 meters away from the car causes at least some inconvenience.
But-these are already questions of personal tastes, so I will not argue.

In summer, fishing can last for hours. For example, from 21: 00 to 3: 00 the next day, or even longer. If the car is rented fine, but not to turn off your own 6 hours in a row is too much.