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11.02.2009 13:02, barko

The converter can be "obtained" from the bus. They are part of the electrical equipment. Perhaps spare parts suppliers can provide the necessary information.

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12.02.2009 21:52, Hemaris

Professional entomology lamps in a protective capsule will soon be available. They are powered by direct current. Who needs it, please contact us and don't worry about it.

12.02.2009 22:42, Sungaya

 

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I think that theoretically they should work. the issue is the correct starter. Industrial starters are designed for alternating current, so I don't think they will work on direct current. Although I do not exclude that there are also suitable starters.
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I have a counter question - does it make sense to do this? After all, there are already basement lamps in the range..
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the tube is much longer than the base lamp.
Does the size of the lamp matter if you compare the tube and the base (at the same power)?

12.02.2009 23:40, okoem

the tube is much longer than the base lamp.
Does the size of the lamp matter if you compare the tube and the base (at the same power)?
This I do not know, I think that you can only find out by experimenting. However, IMHO, I doubt there will be any difference. Insects care about the light spectrum and power of the source, but not the size of the lamp.
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12.02.2009 23:53, barko

This I do not know, I think that you can only find out by experimenting. However, IMHO, I doubt there will be any difference. Insects care about the light spectrum and power of the source, but not the size of the lamp.
At the expense of power. I have repeatedly noticed that on a fading tube, when the battery is sitting down, butterflies seem to fly more willingly. Defective tubes that have only the ends burning and the middle not, attract no less butterflies than the whole ones. Observation is repeated.
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13.02.2009 6:22, Konung

As far as I know, different species can arrive at different power sources.

15.02.2009 23:44, NicoSander

Night hunting in the Vologda region. Kaduysky district on the swamp in July rolleyes.gifand its results smile.gif

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16.02.2009 0:08, okoem

Defective tubes that have only the ends burning and the middle not, attract no less butterflies than the whole ones.
different species can arrive at different power sources.
All right. I've noticed both.

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18.02.2009 8:51, okoem

Passing by, they will look into the Empire of Light store and (oh, miracle!) I bought a base UV lamp (26 watts, equivalent to a normal 130-watt incandescent lamp). jump.gif
With the converter - it works! smile.gif

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18.02.2009 13:10, barko

And I stocked up on these 4 Watt tubes. Let's look at the result.

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03.03.2009 23:07, borov

to Barco: If I understand correctly, do you combine" black " UV lamps with lamps that give light in the visible range?

04.03.2009 18:29, barko

to Barco: If I understand correctly, do you combine" black " UV lamps with lamps that give light in the visible range?

Yes, no, I won't kill you. I mostly use black tubes. Sometimes white. They attract butterflies equally.

04.03.2009 19:07, borov

Inspired by the messages of okoem and barco, I studied the Philips product catalog, but not the last one. I upload scans of the most liked lamps 11

04.03.2009 19:53, borov

Trade names are visible, but other characteristics are not very clear.

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10.03.2009 13:41, шустов

Continuing the topic of the converter for base lamps-econometrics.

I made a printed circuit board, soldered the parts, checked for short circuits, turned on... picture: IMGP5240.jpg
Hooray! It's working!
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The converter was even cheaper than I expected. A pair of transistors cost only$ 1, and diodes $ 0.3 per pair. And also I decided to put more

And could you give me an electrical diagram of the device here, I'll give it to a neighbor in the garage, he will assemble it for me.

10.03.2009 14:15, okoem

Could you give me an electrical diagram of the device here,
See the message URL #862
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11.03.2009 14:02, Трофим

2 borov
I use the Philips lamp 15/05. However, now they are no longer on the market.
2 Shustov
Look carefully, from this inverter only the base lamps of the housekeeper will work, so it makes sense only if you have such as Okoyem exposed ultra-violet. Tubular, DRL, etc. they don't come from this converter.
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11.03.2009 14:16, Guest

2 borov
I use the Philips lamp 15/05. However, now they are no longer on the market.
2 Shustov
Look carefully, from this inverter only the base lamps of the housekeeper will work, so it makes sense only if you have such as Okoyem exposed ultra-violet. Tubular, DRL, etc. they don't come from this converter.
220 volts don't care what lamps you use wink.gif

11.03.2009 14:50, okoem

220 volts don't care what kind of lamps you use wink.gif
So there is no 220. smile.gif

12.03.2009 8:13, PG18

Passing by, they will look into the Empire of Light store and (oh, miracle!) I bought a base UV lamp (26 watts, equivalent to a normal 130-watt incandescent lamp).  jump.gif
With the converter - it works! smile.gif

Vladimir! And please reveal the brand of this miracle lamp. I'll look in the stores. I also bought a couple of transistors and diodes for the converter and was going to remember my school days... smile.gif
Here is something with imported resistors do not understand. They are marked not with familiar symbols like "2k6", but with unfamiliar colored rings frown.gif((

12.03.2009 10:44, okoem

Vladimir! And please reveal the brand of this miracle lamp. I'll look in the stores.

DeLux EBT-01 lamp
http://www.delux.ua
In addition to this, there are similar lamps from other companies. You can try to ask the store to bring it to order.

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20.03.2009 10:18, okoem

In the photo, the tube is 15 watts (220 volts) powered via an inverter from a battery (12 volts).
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The cost of the tube is 15, - euro, the inverter is 37, - euro.

I saw a similar contraption on the market yesterday. Tubular LDS complete with converter and cord for connecting to a 12 Volt battery. This miracle (obviously a noname technique) cost only ~ $ 5 .

22.03.2009 15:40, borov

I also bought a little cheaper than Barko indicated - A BlacklightBlue 18w DeLux lamp(tube)-60 UAH(about 7.5 USD) and a color lamp (tube), Blue 18w Philips color - 49 UAH (about 6 USD). The first works in the invisible ultraviolet range, the second-the visible blue spectrum and ultraviolet to a lesser extent. PRA for lamps took inexpensive, for 22 UAH (from 220 W), converter 12W constant to 220W change I have, warmer we will try instead of the usual economok.

24.03.2009 22:51, александр барышев

Dear entomologists, have any of you tried to catch tourist lamps powered by gas cartridges? They are quite portable, and do not require electricity.

28.03.2009 17:57, STIGMA

Question similar to the previous post, maybe someone tried to catch on battery fluorescent and ultraviolet lamps: Battery fluorescent lamp 2*8W T5 AC / DC/EL1 "Feron" ( http://www.setgroup.ru/index-ea=1&roll=1&l...owgood&num=3169 )
and also ultraviolet http://www.njoy.ru/index.php?productID=741. I think whether it is worth buying, is there an effect? Can someone tell me))))

28.03.2009 22:16, Khlinoff

in my opinion, the light is too weak. I use it as a flashlight while I turn the wires for DRLki and unfold them, so the great thing shines for quite a long time.

29.03.2009 4:14, STIGMA

it is clear, I think it is worth believing fellow countrymen from Bashkiria))

02.04.2009 21:38, americanecz

People!!! Tell me...
Here I rummage in the Net in any way I can not find the Philips light bulbs...
Blacklight only not tube and form as an ordinary DRLka ...
OCH. Please TELL ME!!!
try och. okhoto... in these tubes of 15 watts as it is hard to believe...

03.04.2009 20:05, kovyl

2 alexander baryshev

> Dear entomologists, have any of you tried to catch tourist lamps powered by gas cartridges? They are quite portable, and do not require electricity.

I catch on a gasoline lamp Coleman (with 2 bags). Not DRL, of course, but where there is no electricity, it will do.

03.04.2009 21:38, americanecz

Travel lamps??? )))
What do you think of that -
http://www.showlight.ru/?p=katalog&id=1560 ???
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06.04.2009 15:02, americanecz

By the way! People! Has anyone already opened the season in the Moscow region???

06.04.2009 18:41, borov

to americanecz: if you need specifications - then in the message 894, if you will buy - share the information where and for how much.

07.04.2009 8:01, Sergey Didenko

By the way! People! Has anyone already opened the season in the Moscow region???

From Sunday to Monday on the outskirts of Moscow - scoops transverses and Vaccinia, plus micro. In general, spring is very late, rather before the weekend non-wintering butterflies will not appear.
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11.04.2009 18:43, Dr. Niko

Friends, tell me!
Who uses what material for the screen? I just read in one book that the fabric should be bleach-free, as it absorbs UV radiation.
There is also an idea to buy a panel for presentations as a screen (well, when with a projector). No one knows what it is usually made of?

11.04.2009 20:28, Dr. Niko

I don't want to sound naive, but I'm not good at night fishing, maybe someone knows where in Moscow you can buy a 400W DRV? And does it hit you hard in the eyes (of course, not stabbed)? Or do not worry at all and buy DRV-250? Just some subjective feeling that nothing will heal at 250 (in the sense of a little), and at 400 it will burn like.

13.04.2009 7:42, Aaata

From my own experience. The DRV lamp attracts insects noticeably worse, in comparison with DRL of the same power, especially near populated areas. This is understandable, since the DRV has a tungsten arc and, therefore, partly works like an ordinary electric lamp: its spectrum contains a large proportion of yellow light that is "of little interest" to most insects. You CAN'T break the DRV (just like you can't do it with a regular light bulb) - it will instantly burn out when turned on. DRV lamps have only one significant plus - throttle-free, hence their ease and convenience in transportation.(and also, perhaps, something that fits the usual base). If such advantages are decisive for you, then you need to take this lamp, (preferably 400W, taking into account its already relatively low efficiency), in all other cases-DRL. I use, now, only DRL-250, because according to my observations, (by the way, the corresponding data in the literature, for example, in the work of G. Gornostaev, the reference to it is somewhere higher) this is the optimum power for this type of lamp. On DRL-400 (and on 1000W.!) also, they fly well and, even, from a greater distance, but the problem is that they sit down, then, a lot of things are too far away, being out of sight and, practically, out of access for the catcher. DRL is easily released from the external bulb (I have never experienced any difficulties with this, although someone did not immediately succeed in this topic above), as a result, the UV component significantly increases and the attractive ability increases (but we must TAKE CARE!!! eyes, skin, your own and others, as mentioned above many times-be sure to talk about protection methods (and strictly follow them so that there are no health problems). If you don't want these difficulties, please use an intact (non-chipped) version. DRL, but the arrival, according to my estimates, is reduced by several times (!), both in quantity and variety, especially in places with an abundance of other competitive light sources. Special means of protection against DRL of any power with an intact outer shell (and, moreover, from DRV ) are not required - it is enough not to look directly at it. (to prevent this from happening accidentally, I use a cap with a protruding visor, just in case.) Naturally, I do not advise you to continuously look at the most illuminated area on the screen (which is not necessary). That is, the "protection" is close to what we have at the household level, being in a room with a bright light bulb.

There were never any problems with purchasing lamps, there is always a large selection in electrical equipment stores, I don't think this is more difficult in Moscow. I prefer Phillips equipment. Please note that for DRL, the system must have a throttle of the same power (!), otherwise the lamp will last for several hours. Together with the throttle, the entire set (including wires, plug, cap) last year cost me 900 rubles.

As a screen, I use an ordinary white sheet, still from Soviet times (now they are sold mainly with a pattern). I try not to wash it, but only slightly soak and rinse it, (but I assume that it is not always possible to protect it from laundry actionssmile.gif) This screen looks accordingly: all patched up-patched, with numerous picturesque traces and divorces, but this is good - fewer onlookers gather to "hang out" next to it. I did not find a more suitable material, because it is convenient for insects to sit on this fabric, clinging to it, and at the same time, butterflies do not break, as is the case, for example, with bag-like materials.
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16.04.2009 14:32, Dr. Niko

There is an option to buy an OSRAM UV lamp like this:

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or Camelion.:

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For the first on sale so far found 18, 36 and 125 Watts, for the second 26 Watts. What power is optimal in general? For example, if you catch along with the DRL-250?
And how do they connect: via throttle or not?

This post was edited by Dr. Niko - 04/16/2009 14: 57

16.04.2009 18:10, lepidopterolog

The second one is definitely not through the throttle, directly from the network-I caught something similar.
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20.04.2009 0:22, Dr. Niko

All. Zatarilas on the full complexion. I even bought Wood's lamp. Let's try it out. And here's how I'm going to put it all together. The dimensions are certainly not proportional. Approximate ones.

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I put it up for public use. wink.gif

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20.04.2009 18:52, Dr. Niko

Guys, as a person who doesn't know much about electrical engineering, but is eager to learn at least the basics of it, I want to know this. How many amperes are suitable from the 250 W throttle to the DRL-250 and what is the operating voltage on the lamp? I ask, because my wiring holds 6 A and 250 V and I'm afraid that when I turn on the whole farm it doesn't break or burn to hell.

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