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25.07.2009 17:52, Opas

Thank You

30.08.2009 21:42, Mantispid

But I have a question: all lamps are powered by a battery / generator, or are there any lamps that" themselves " glow?

30.08.2009 23:56, RippeR

only fireflies in a jar and tropical nutcrackers glow themselves :P
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31.08.2009 0:35, Dr. Niko

But I have a question: all lamps are powered by a battery / generator, or are there any lamps that" themselves " glow?

Ilya, I would certainly answer you, but you will agree, then why is there 20 pages written here??? So that beginners can learn all this.
Read it and you will understand everything smile.gif

31.08.2009 2:24, Black Coleopter

only fireflies in a jar and tropical nutcrackers glow themselves: P

What about the bonfires??? Although they are poorly suited for collecting insects, but at the same time there are publications ("Harmful insects and measures to control them "(practical entomology). Bramson K. L.-Ed. 2-e-Ekaterinoslav-1894-265 p.) in k-rykh and write: "Bonfires are laid out at night, as beetles willingly fly to the fire and die in it in large numbers." wink.gif

31.08.2009 5:45, evk

What about the bonfires??? Although they are poorly suited for collecting insects, but at the same time there are publications ("Harmful insects and measures to control them "(practical entomology). Bramson K. L.-Ed. 2-e-Ekaterinoslav-1894-265 p.) in k-rykh and write: "Bonfires are laid out at night, as beetles willingly fly to the fire and die in it in large numbers." wink.gif

Probably since the century before last the beetles have grown wiser and do not want to fly to the bonfire anymore wink.gif
And seriously, beetles do not fly into the light without UV or fly extremely little and poorly!
Well, after reading this thread, I want to say about the beetles that I catch in the light of 25 years like that wink.gif
They fly perfectly and in huge numbers on both AWACS and AWACS aircraft. I don't see any point in perverting myself with split flasks, because the number of years of beetles either exists or does not smile.gifDepend on the chosen place, season, and weather. But for one catch on a good evening-night in our region (Lower Volga region), you can catch up to a hundred or more species (I do not name the number of individuals - the sheet is black).
For beetles, I always use two sheets - one hanging, and the other lying on the ground under it. A certain number of species simply crawl or fly up and land outside the circle lit by the lamp and do not sit on the sheet - you still have to walk around on the ground with a lantern. So behave more often krasotely, khlenius from ground beetles.

This post was edited by evk-31.08.2009 06: 11
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31.08.2009 7:26, okoem

What about the bonfires???
Wood fires work. smile.gif

31.08.2009 13:29, RippeR

bonfires only at Prometheus by themselves ))

31.08.2009 13:40, evk

The wood fires are working. smile.gif

bonfires only at Prometheus by themselves ))

Comedians! The person is seriously asking smile.gif

31.08.2009 13:56, Bad Den


And seriously, beetles do not fly into the light without UV or fly extremely little and poorly!
They fly perfectly and in huge numbers on both AWACS and AWACS aircraft. I don't see any point in perverting myself with split flasks, because there are either many years of beetles or not smile.gif

So if the flask is not pricked, then the UV radiation is much less.

31.08.2009 14:03, omar

So what?

31.08.2009 14:30, RippeR

beetles also fly to normal light - this is a fact!

more than once I caught all sorts of beetles in ordinary light. And this year on the seashore at the lanterns (round with ordinary lamps) there were a lot of all sorts of beetles-beetles, staphylinae, elephants and all sorts of other things. In normal light, I caught 2 species of Trichoferus, cicindel, etc.

31.08.2009 14:44, Aaata

They fly both on the candle flame and on the kerosene lamp, especially somewhere in the wilderness where there are no other sources of light. The only question is what is flying and in what quantity.

This post was edited by Aaata - 08/31/2009 14: 49

31.08.2009 14:58, RippeR

as with butterflies, I think everything is not clear here - most likely some species are more fond of drl, others of the usual intensity..

31.08.2009 16:10, KDG

In Turkey, I took with me a lamp powered by a battery and from the network, it has 2 lamps of 8 watts each.You can put both UV and ordinary fluorescent lamps, turn on one or two.
Most nights were very cool, but butterflies and crunches flew. Even one bramea showed up.

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31.08.2009 18:52, evk

Well, here is an example of fishing on a kerosene-potash lamp (incandescent mesh that emits UV). Fully autonomous. That's how they caught on the chalk slopes in the Dubovsky district of the Volgograd region. The lamp is hung on improvised means over a white cloth spread on the ground. A lot of things flew, including interesting Aedophron rhodites, Sphingonaepiopsis gorgoniades. I put a lot of what I learned here on the definition back then.
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31.08.2009 19:04, okoem

Well, here is an example of fishing on a kerosene-potash lamp (incandescent mesh that emits UV).

Kerosene-potash? Hmm.. there doesn't seem to be such a device in this topic yet... cool.gif
Very interesting! Can I find out the exact brand of the lamp? Even better, with a link to where to read/buy? mol.gif

31.08.2009 19:13, evk

Kerosene-potash? Hmm.. there doesn't seem to be such a device in this topic yet... cool.gif
Very interesting! Can I find out the exact brand of the lamp? Even better, with a link to where to read/buy? mol.gif

And this is not for me - I only used it on a par with the owner. I'll find out and write, but I know from him that I got it very difficult somehow.
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31.08.2009 19:20, Victor Titov

I'll find out and write, but I know from him that I got it very difficult somehow.

Find out, find out, very interesting!!! We would have a diagram, or a drawing - we would arrange a turntable... wink.gif

31.08.2009 19:25, okoem

And this is not for me - I only used it on a par with the owner. I'll find out and write, but I know from him that I got it very difficult somehow.
Well, I would like to know the model, but I think it will be a matter of technique to get it... smile.gif

31.08.2009 20:57, vasiliy-feoktistov

Well, I would like to know the model, but I think it will be a matter of technique to get it... smile.gif

In my practice, here it is. This device from China was bought in 1996 on the "Bird" (old still in Kalitniki). Model: ANCHOR; Brand: No. 950-500 c. p. Flying on it is wonderful. The only thing you can not yawn-if it gets on the lamp, it will burn instantly (the heating is very high). Here's a photo:

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 31.08.2009 21: 08

Pictures:
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01.09.2009 12:28, Трофим

This is really something especially new for 21 days of discussions. Back to 19 century.
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01.09.2009 12:39, vasiliy-feoktistov

This is really something especially new for 21 days of discussions. We return at 19 century.

Nevertheless, it is autonomous and shines like half a kilowatt (approximately).

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 01.09.2009 12: 39
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01.09.2009 14:09, Tigran Oganesov

I once used this one in everyday life, only it was not kerosene, but gas. Turkish production. The sun was very bright.
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01.09.2009 14:13, vasiliy-feoktistov

I once used this one in everyday life, only it was not kerosene, but gas. Turkish production. The sun was very bright.

This one can be heated with anything, even diesel fuel (there is still air pumped in-like primus). True, it's pretty smelly.

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 01.09.2009 14: 14

01.09.2009 14:18, okoem

vasiliy-feoktistov
Cool device! beer.gif
We return at 19 century.
Nineteen, not nineteen-and electricity has one serious drawback - you can't put it in a jar to take with you... And then the energy" in its pure form " was poured into the lamp - and go! jump.gif
Straighteners and nets, by the way, have not changed much since the nineteenth century either wink.gif
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01.09.2009 14:29, vasiliy-feoktistov

  vasiliy-feoktistov
Cool device! beer.gif
Nineteen, not nineteen-and electricity has one serious drawback - you can't put it in a jar to take with you... And then the energy" in its pure form " was poured into the lamp - and go! jump.gif 
Straighteners and nets, by the way, have not changed much since the nineteenth century either wink.gif

Moreover, one and a half liters is enough for a long time.

01.09.2009 22:31, okoem

Liquid fuel lamps from the company Coleman. The power varies from 80 to 200 watts. The prices are serious.
http://www.camping.ru/index.php?op=catalog&pid=3
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02.09.2009 8:42, vasiliy-feoktistov

Liquid fuel lamps from the company Coleman. The power varies from 80 to 200 watts. The prices are serious.
http://www.camping.ru/index.php?op=catalog&pid=3

Yes!!! And earlier I went to the "Bird" and bought it. I have it still working (though with consumables to it prblema).

02.09.2009 8:49, Guest

Yes!!! And earlier I went to the "Bird" and bought it. I have it still working (though with consumables to it prblema).

There may still be Chinese analogues. The price is several times lower, and the quality, of course, is appropriate.
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02.09.2009 9:01, vasiliy-feoktistov

There may still be Chinese analogues. The price is several times lower, and the quality, of course, is appropriate.

Yes, it is worth asking from China (they are masters in any lighting equipment from time immemorial), maybe they will get a high-quality one. As in my case. P.S. Your computer is probably also assembled from Chinese components-now they do everything there.

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 02.09.2009 09: 11

02.09.2009 9:10, okoem

There may still be Chinese analogues. The price is several times lower, and the quality, of course, is appropriate.
Chinese ads (except for one private ad) I couldn't find it. Who will find it-plz give a link!
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02.09.2009 10:27, vasiliy-feoktistov

Chinese ads (except for one private ad) I couldn't find it. Who will find it-plz give a link!

Yes, and I searched-I found nothing but American ones.
Just in case, a couple of some forums where the lamp is discussed:
http://www.rusfishing.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=2678&page=8
http://katera.ru/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t21866.html

02.09.2009 10:34, Victor Titov

Here's what I found on the ANCHOR lamps:
http://shop.ferben.de/index.php?cPath=21_2...45f355b06a85641
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02.09.2009 10:38, omar

I wonder if American lamps also get very hot? Or not? This is a fundamental question. Has anyone used them? If they all burn up at once, then I don't need it for nothing.

02.09.2009 10:45, vasiliy-feoktistov

I wonder if American lamps also get very hot? Or not? This is a fundamental question. Has anyone used them? If they all burn up at once, then I don't need it for nothing.

Yes, for sure, the same (principle one), although he did not try it. And it makes sense to catch it.

02.09.2009 11:04, omar

not fact

02.09.2009 11:17, omar

Americans think about their own safety, but you can get burned on such a lamp smile.gif

02.09.2009 11:21, vasiliy-feoktistov

not a fact

And in my opinion, a fact. In both cases, the asbestos mesh is heated to white. Can you imagine the temperature there? Nevertheless," in the field " is irreplaceable (reluctance to carry a generator or batteries)"they're pretty heavy.

02.09.2009 11:24, omar

Asbestos is now banned in all civilized countries as a carcinogenic substance. It is not even used in car pads anymore. smile.gif

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