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08.04.2008 11:53, mikee

And what is the IP code of the lamp??

SKU: 33-540-08
Name: 18184 ULTRA VITALUX
Manufacturer: Osram

10.04.2008 8:37, treator

Indeed, the topic with the lamp was raised in the wrong forum.
Okoem is certainly right that the larger the lighting angle, the better. For this lamp, it was actually 100 degrees. So, tonight, from 11 pm, I conducted tests of a new lamp in a hurry. I caught it clearly at home in 2 km beyond the Moscow Ring Road, where the years, of course, are very weak. When fishing only on Ultra-vitalux, the summer intensity was approximately 1 butterfly per minute. When fishing for split DRL-250 approximately 5 per minute. When fishing at once on two lamps more than 10 per minute. Caught about 20 minutes per lamp. In general, a normal result. By the way, it shines with a more blue-purple hue than the DRL, and many butterflies flew to the two glowing lamps and spun around the new one. There are also doubts about the fact that if water gets on it in the rain, won't it burst right away? Once upon a time I had some kind of DSLR of this type, so the first drop broke it.

this lamp is most likely also coming to an end. lamps of this type (used on the street) must have a protective cap, its IP will tell you under what conditions you can use this product

03.05.2008 21:56, mems

And a dead head (can you catch a butterflysmile.gif on a lamp?

03.05.2008 21:58, Vlad Proklov

And a dead head (can you catch a butterflysmile.gif on a lamp?

I -- caught smile.gif

04.05.2008 0:12, mems

Cool!!!

But today I turned on the aquarium lamp for 20 minutes, and only two moths arrived.
Then I cut the throttle and turned it on at 250W, and in general-the bolt!
It might be too late: it was already half past eleven.

It's the first time I've ever been born, and I don't seem to be doing very well.

06.05.2008 0:01, RippeR

It can be anything - a place, weather, time, etc., etc
. It is best that the place goes somewhere on the green, turn on from the beginning of potmeneniya, so that the weather was thick, windless and warm. And we need to wait a little longer.. then it will fly smile.gifSometimes 1-2 things fly, sometimes hundreds.. depending on when, where,.....

10.05.2008 11:16, mems

Yeah, put DRL-empty, 2 meters under the canopy hung obknovennaya incandescent lamp-4 scoops and weevil smile.gif

10.05.2008 17:34, Nozer

Yeah, put DRL-empty, 2 meters under the canopy hung obknovennaya incandescent lamp-4 scoops and a weevil smile.gif

Some butterflies land far away from powerful lamps (the same DRL), and fly up when you turn on a weaker one. Therefore, it is most convenient to alternate the lamps (this was in the topic) for a better result.

11.05.2008 10:25, Hemaris

Personally, I use a professional Black-light lamp and don't get caught up. If there is an AWL nearby, then hawk moth flies almost exclusively on Black-light.

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11.05.2008 23:14, Sungaya

and what do you mean - professional?
what's it even for?

11.05.2008 23:28, Hemaris

and what do you mean - professional?
what's it even for?


How for what, for catching butterflies! This is a special entomological lamp in a protective capsule with an optimized spectrum. It runs on a gel battery for up to 24 hours.

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12.05.2008 0:06, Sungaya

and how much does such a miracle cost? And where to buy it?

12.05.2008 9:56, Hemaris

This 60 cm model will cost 180 Euros if you order from me. There are 38 cm for 80 Euros. Or see for yourself here www.bioform.de

There are many other things here, such as automatic portable traps.

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12.05.2008 15:15, entomolog

How for what, for catching butterflies! This is a special entomological lamp in a protective capsule with an optimized spectrum. It runs on a gel battery for up to 24 hours.

I have from such a battery as in the photo (7, 2 ah, from the UPS) a 15-watt lamp burns for 5 hours, no more. How do you manage to last a day, share the secret plz.

12.05.2008 16:03, okoem

Hmm, really, something doesn't add up the math.
We have:
- a 12 Volt battery with a capacity of 7 Amps/hour
-a 15 watt lamp

Thus, the current consumption of the lamp will be
15/12 = 1.25 amps.

The time to fully discharge the battery at this current will be
7/1. 25 = 5.6 hours (or 5 hours and 36 minutes)

12.05.2008 21:26, Hemaris

People, I deceived you. It works for 12 hours on a single charge. Just enough for me for two nights, as I catch mostly from 22.30 to 4.00.

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21.05.2008 17:12, guest: Александр

The most productive fishing seems to me on mercury and ultra-violet
lamps of the Phillips company and a 9-kilogram Honda gas generator.
Zbory is just super (the main thing is that the weather is right)

23.05.2008 9:45, Swansson

Almost zero years. The question is-why? Last night: +20, calm, no moon, pitch black. The result: 1 scoop of gamma, a couple of moths and midges. Does anyone have any guesses or theories as to why this might be the case? For comparison , last year, at the same time and in the same place on the screen sat a layer of scoops of different species, including all sorts of large and yellow-winged, and crested, and moth moth, several hawkmoth...

23.05.2008 20:12, Sendum

Almost zero years. The question is-why? Last night: +20, calm, no moon, pitch black. The result: 1 scoop of gamma, a couple of moths and midges. Does anyone have any guesses or theories as to why this might be the case? For comparison , last year, at the same time and in the same place on the screen sat a layer of scoops of different species, including all sorts of large and yellow-winged, and crested, and moth moth, several hawkmoth...

I've had this happen before. Apparently, there are changed atmospheric conditions (for example, such minor ones as air humidity).

24.05.2008 8:52, okoem

Almost zero years. The question is-why? Last night: +20, calm, no moon, pitch black. The result: 1 scoop of gamma, a couple of moths and midges. Does anyone have any guesses or theories as to why this might be the case? For comparison , last year, at the same time and in the same place on the screen sat a layer of scoops of different species, including all sorts of large and yellow-winged, and crested, and moth moth, several hawkmoth...

Shone the other day. Absolutely the same situation. By the way, many of the usual types of diaries this season are also practically absent or few. I think that last year's drought is to blame.

08.06.2008 8:39, Sergey Didenko

Comments about splitting the lamp. Our DRL split without any problems, carefully with a hammer, but my Phillips split along with the internal lamp. Someone advised first to file, probably this is correct, but for the sake of experiment, I decided to try a vise-wrapped in a rag, put it in a bag and in a vise, the outer flask clearly burst, and the whole thing split, while the inner one is intact.
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08.06.2008 12:03, Ilia Ustiantcev

Please write someone what you need to connect the DRL to a regular 220 volt network, where you can buy it and how much it costs.

08.06.2008 13:40, Bad Den

Please write someone what you need to connect the DRL to a regular 220 volt network, where you can buy it and how much it costs.

Yyyyy! smile.gif
Ilya, the first pages of the topic - everything is written there and even drawnsmile.gif
Briefly - the DRL lamp, the throttle for it (if the DRL lamp is 250, then the throttle is 1I-250DRL 42N-001. UHL2 (internal, built into the searchlight for example - it is lighter, 3.3 kg) or 1I-250DRL 42-001. UHL1 (independent version, in a metal case, weighs about 5 kg, is not afraid moisture)), wire, E40 cartridge (usually ceramic), plug.
That should be enoughsmile.gif

This post was edited by Bad Den-06/08/2008 13: 41
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08.06.2008 22:53, mikee

Comments about splitting the lamp. Our DRL split without any problems, carefully with a hammer, but my Phillips split along with the internal lamp. Someone advised first to file, probably this is correct, but for the sake of experiment, I decided to try a vise-wrapped in a rag, put it in a bag and in a vise, the outer flask clearly burst, and the whole thing split, while the inner one is intact.

I sawed with a diamond file with pre-winding the flask with tape. Fast and reliable. However, the lamp refused to work yesterday. I haven't found the reason yet, everything looks fine, it worked when I turned it on last time.

28.06.2008 11:11, Vabrus

Yyyyy! smile.gif
Ilya, the first pages of the topic - everything is written there and even drawnsmile.gif
Briefly - the DRL lamp, the throttle for it (if the DRL lamp is 250, then the throttle is 1I-250DRL 42N-001. UHL2 (internal, built into the searchlight for example - it is lighter, 3.3 kg) or 1I-250DRL 42-001. UHL1 (independent version, in a metal case, weighs about 5 kg, is not afraid moisture)), wire, E40 cartridge (usually ceramic), plug.
That should be enoughsmile.gif

Such a typesetter today has gained weight. In Tyumen good cost 750 rubles
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02.07.2008 7:22, Sergey Didenko

I have from a pricked Philips 250 W lamp burned all the flowers within a radius of 7 meters. The leaves shriveled and turned red. Before that, there was our DRL-250 and everything was fine.
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02.07.2008 21:32, mikee

I have from a pricked Philips 250 W lamp burned all the flowers within a radius of 7 meters. The leaves shriveled and turned red. Before that, there was our DRL-250 and everything was fine.

And I bought some Polish analog DRL-250 and carefully sawed off the flask. So in the pricked version of the eyes do not save any glasses, but the colors at least henna. And it flies almost the same, that on the split, that on the non-split (just put the flask back smile.gifon)

03.07.2008 7:08, Sergey Didenko

And I bought some Polish analog DRL-250 and carefully sawed off the flask. So in the pricked version of the eyes do not save any glasses, but the colors at least henna. And it flies almost the same, that on the pricked, that on the non-pricked (just put the flask back smile.gifon )

Maybe you have the wrong flowers? Phlox, roses, peonies, chestnuts and even weed are burning. And how can the flask be put back on?

03.07.2008 9:20, Bad Den

And I bought some Polish analog DRL-250 and carefully sawed off the flask. So in the pricked version of the eyes do not save any glasses, but the colors at least henna. And it flies almost the same, that on the pricked, that on the non-pricked (just put the flask back smile.gifon )

I have regular glasses, with diopters. DRL chipped Ukrainian. Glasses protect your eyes
This year, although I also bought special protective glasses that can be worn over the usual ones.

03.07.2008 10:02, Pavel Morozov

No, I have been using a normal DRL for the second year, without pricking the flasks.
I don't want to ruin my eyes anymore.
Caution is a precaution, but the chance of eye damage, however, is great.
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03.07.2008 10:12, mikee

Maybe you have the wrong flowers? Phlox, roses, peonies, chestnuts and even weed are burning. And how can the flask be put back on?

Yes, everything grows there, including fruit trees. Right under the lamp - maiden grapes. and below - some kind of astragalus. And no one cares... By the way, cats come and calmly look directly at the lamp with no visible consequences. And I tried all the available glasses, including polaroid ones, but still in the morning there is "sand"in my eyes frown.gif
The flask is carefully cut off with a diamond file, without splitting. The lamp itself is fixed vertically, with the base facing down. Accordingly, if necessary, the bulb is put on top, since the design of the lamp itself provides a special supporting mount (ring). In principle, the bulb holds quite confidently even when the lamp is positioned horizontally. Only here, if water gets inside the flask, then the phosphor is partially washed off from its inner wall.

03.07.2008 11:39, Bad Den

No, I have been using a normal DRL for the second year, without pricking the flasks.
I don't want to ruin my eyes anymore.
Caution is a precaution, but the chance of eye damage, however, is great.

And the catchability?

03.07.2008 12:48, mikee

And the catchability?

I have already written that I personally did not notice a fundamental difference. Only some species consistently flew to non-kolotaya and did not fly to smile.gifkolotaya at all, but I don't have enough statistics, because I don't catch regularly at night.
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03.07.2008 12:51, Grigory Grigoryev

I want to say that working in the "extreme" mode makes a certain discomfort (even if it just "hurts" your eyes in the morning). So I agree with MOROZZZ.
For me personally, this does not affect the catchability, and, in the end, I will not die without catching something that I will never know smile.gifabout ). I think that you should treat your vision "with love" (it may come in handy ... smile.gif )
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03.07.2008 13:09, Bad Den

The trouble is that in the city there are too many "competitors" in the form of other light sources smile.gif
I don't know what it will be like in Alupka this year, but just in case I take both split and non-split lamps.

03.07.2008 14:14, Pavel Morozov

At the dacha I collect for the whole DRL. Catchability is no less than with a split one, despite two dozen lanterns in the area.

31.07.2008 13:46, omar

Gentlemen, please consult us. After much hesitation and hesitation, an independent power source was purchased - that is, a Europover Honda generator. When connecting the DRL-250 lamp, the same one that was used when connecting to a regular network, this lamp goes out after a few minutes of operation, then lights up again. In general, you can't catch it. With a detailed analysis of the lamp device, everything is in order, nothing is short anywhere. frown.gifWhy is this happening? Or does this DRL require some additional device to work with the generator? Has anyone experienced anything like this? The generator at the same time furychit as if nothing had happened.

31.07.2008 22:14, mikee

Gentlemen, please consult us. After much hesitation and hesitation, an independent power source was purchased - that is, a Europover Honda generator. When connecting the DRL-250 lamp, the same one that was used when connecting to a regular network, this lamp goes out after a few minutes of operation, then lights up again. In general, you can't catch it. With a detailed analysis of the lamp device, everything is in order, nothing is short anywhere. frown.gifWhy is this happening? Or does this DRL require some additional device to work with the generator? Has anyone experienced anything like this? The generator at the same time furychit as if nothing had happened.

Do you have a throttle?

31.07.2008 22:27, omar

Well, how would it have worked without it before? The device is fully equipped and in order.

31.07.2008 22:44, okoem

Gentlemen, please consult us. ................

If there is definitely a reliable contact in the socket/plug, etc., then the easiest thing to do is to try to screw in another (new) DRL lamp.
I haven't come across generators in particular, but used lamps with different chokes can work differently. I had a lamp that on one throttle "winked" (flickered a little), and on the other it worked fine. I bought a new lamp, put it on a "bad" throttle - everything is OK!

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