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30.05.2015 22:57, collector

Thank you AndreyU5.
On his tip-off, I ordered a batch of U. F. lamps.
The guys send them very quickly, everything went perfectly.
I'm already working, and the result is positive for me.

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31.05.2015 2:10, anna.sur

Hello dear friends! From the black UV lamps shown in the photo above, different fabrics glow differently. Agro-fabric has a gray dull shade, HB sheets glow bright white and synthetics bright bluish. Which of the spectrum reflections is more preferable or it doesn't matter?

31.05.2015 23:13, s585

Hello dear friends! From the black UV lamps shown in the photo above, different fabrics glow differently. Agro-fabric has a gray dull shade, HB sheets glow bright white and synthetics bright bluish. Which of the spectrum reflections is more preferable or it doesn't matter?

I had the following experience. The screen cloth was sewn from two pieces of plastic fabric, from which they sew bags for flour, sugar, etc. Such a weave of narrow ribbons, I don't know how it is called correctly. So, one half glowed in UV bright blue, and the other half was simply illuminated, but without the effect of fluorescence (the fabric was different). From experience, I can say that the part that shone brightly in UV attracted insects several times less than the second, dimmer half. At first, I was surprised by this. But then I thought that probably the dimmer half reflected invisible UV without changes, but the fluorescent fabric converted UV to the visible spectrum, which looks like a brighter glow to us, but is less attractive to insects.

31.05.2015 23:52, AndreyU5

Good evening collector! Glad I could help. The Internet is a great power. Do not neglect eye protection, just in case. Blacklight is also very "insidious", not like the split DRL, but still.

01.06.2015 0:36, Barnaba

Hello dear friends! From the black UV lamps shown in the photo above, different fabrics glow differently. Agro-fabric has a gray dull shade, HB sheets glow bright white and synthetics bright bluish. Which of the spectrum reflections is more preferable or it doesn't matter?

Quantitative comparisons have not yet been made (this is actually not so easy), but subjectively it seems to be the best special synthetic mesh that reflects UV. It is stretch, so a cut length of 2 m and a width of 1.5 m is enough for a screen of at least 2. 5x1.8 m with edges on clothespins. It has a rather small cell and it does not really cling to plant debris. Removing insects is not particularly difficult than removing them from a sheet. Sails much less than a sheet or spunbond, which in some places is blown away by the wind, as if you do not support the screen. At the same time, it is more effective than a window grid and easier to clean from the remnants of past fishing. Subjectively better than other materials both when fishing on DRL+UV or DRV+UV, and, in particular, if fishing goes only on UV.
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1) a general view of the screen with a phosphor fabric under the DRL 125W+UV CL 26W and a window grid under the UV CL 26W at the beginning of fishing;
2) a view of the phosphor under the DRL 125W+UV CL 26W 40min after switching on (another point);
3) the same, close-up, the fabric structure is visible;
4) the same, but the Osram 160W DRV is added to the window grid. At the same time, more people arrive under the AWL. With the same lamps, it also flew more (but not several times) to the phosphor grid;
5) I didn't find a photo of the phosphor grid illuminated only by UV, but it glows with a pleasant blue light wink.gif. Here is a photo with illumination from a fairly strong frontal lobe (except for UV).

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01.06.2015 2:24, Barnaba

  


Unfortunately, I learned something after a trip to the Volgograd and Astrakhan regions in May. The beloved KIPOR 2000i just before leaving was suddenly needed for life support of a dacha with a father-in-law, mother-in-law and child, and I had to urgently purchase something else. I have long been relaxed about buying a smaller generator, especially since 2KW seemed clearly redundant for the set of lamps that I usually use (a 2KW Kipor easily ignites and pulls 3X500W DRL). Saving gasoline would allow you to take a 10l canister, not 20l, for points with a separation from the track for 3-5 days (my car eats 95th, so its spare canister is not suitable for the generator). In total, this saves a significant amount of space in the car. And you never know, I'll go anywhere without a car (this was complete nonsense, I didn't go anywhere without a car, but with a generator, I didn't go for many years).
A search on the Internet showed that the minimum weight and gluttony are noted for several very similar models, of which I once looked and was purchased in an online store for ~12000r PATRIOT 1000i. Since in appearance and according to the stated characteristics it is very similar to the Earthquake IG800W, which worked like a bunny in the States and is really probably the best compact generator for a reasonable price (about 350 USD) on the local market (and you can still return wink.gifit after a while), I presumptuously decided that the PATRIOT is the same the same thing, but for Russia.
As always, wrap everything up before leaving, and not only did I not check it, but I didn't even take it out of the box. I bought, however, the oil that is indicated, and a canister of 10 liters of 92nd gasoline at a normal, proven gas station. So, still, I was a little worried. On the first day, after driving 1000 km, I no longer had the moral and physical strength to try it out, but right in the morning I filled in oil, gasoline and-oops! - started up with the first jerk. Left to work for half an hour-fine. Well, I think it's OK.
The evening brought unpleasant surprises. It turned out that in economy mode, firstly, it pulls no more than 260W (maximum DRV 160W + 2 pcs UV CFLs of 26W + CFL 40W, with the addition of CFL 11W, the DRV is cut off), and, secondly, the sound of operation is extremely strange-as if it then adds, then decreases the speed. All previously used generators just worked quieter. I expected that in economy mode, it will pull the declared 50% of the nominal value (400 W). Not wanting to put too much stress on the generator during the run-in period, I turned it on to full mode. On it, he lit DRV 160W+DRL 125W+2 pcs UV CFL of 26 W + CFL 40W (working illumination) + another maximum CFL of 85W (only 462 W), the third mercury lamp he did not pull. After 2.5 hours of operation, it spontaneously passed out and did not start for an hour (apparently, while the heat was cooling down). Then it started, I left less than 400W on it, and it worked fine for another 2 hours. The next day, I hung up less than 350W of load and tried to turn on economy mode again. It lasted 2.5 hours and then passed out again, but it started up after 20 minutes (it was much colder wink.gif). Then I realized that here you are not there (its Chinese-American counterpart worked for 9h without a break on one tank in economy mode) and moderated the experiments, fearing to remain completely without light. In the following days, I did not turn on the economy mode and did not load more than 350W on the generator, and after 2 hours from the start of operation, I turned it off for 20-30 minutes, after which I started it again. In this mode (2h+2-2. 5 h with a break of 20-30min), it no longer cut out, it began to sound smoother and consumed quite a bit (about 1.2 liters per 4 hours of operation, i.e. 300ml/hour). One night, however, it didn't pull even 350 watts at first, and when I restarted, I didn't close the flap completely after starting up, and it did, and the engine sound was noticeably better than before. I did not take a break from work, and it worked 4.5 hours continuously, devouring, however, almost a tank (1.8 liters, or 450 ml/hour). In general, due to the cold nights, this suited me, but nothing interesting flew for me after 00 anyway. So I can't say I didn't catch something because of the generator. But if the weather was favorable and it was necessary to shine until 4 in the morning, I don't know how it would turn out. In just 7 nights, he worked about 28 hours, consuming 9.2 liters of gasoline (about 330 ml/hour). It took a little oil. No emergency sensors were ever turned on (I'm not sure if they are connected wink.gif). I may have come across a bad copy. Low consumption with unstable engine sound, problems in economy mode and normal operation with the flap not closed suggest that the problem may be in the fuel supply. Until you get around to changing the oil and testing it again, and then doing repairs. It is unlikely that sellers in Russia will be able to blow it back.
So, the pros: low weight (8.5 kg empty+0.3 oil+2.1 full tank=10.9 kg curb weight) and dimensions, low consumption, low price, does not leak during transportation, works.
Cons: it does not pull the declared load and hardly 50% of it, no real economy mode is detected, it is unstable during long operation, the sound of the engine running periodically makes you nervous.
I can't recommend you to buy it in any way, but if you have already bought it, do not despair, everything may get better wink.gif. It makes sense to look at the twin models under a different brand, because the prototype was good.
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01.06.2015 8:36, s585

20.06.2015 17:03, Bianor

In a workers 'and peasants' way:

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20.06.2015 17:44, Alexandr Zhakov

In a workers 'and peasants' way:

Too lazy. smile.gif

20.06.2015 18:12, vasiliy-feoktistov

Normally smile.gif
Where there is an animal, it will also fly well on a sheet stretched on ropes and illuminated by two eight-watt lumens from the battery.
There's not much to fence about: you still have to get all this stuff to the place and back on your hump.
Everything depends on the conditions: in short smile.gif
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20.06.2015 19:19, Bianor

There's an AWL core up there, so it's shining properly!

21.06.2015 21:25, DavBaz

Friends! Please tell me, does it make sense to use such a lantern in the fields for fishing?? http://naturaliste.ru/catalog/1986

This post was edited by DavBaz - 06/21/2015 22: 29

21.06.2015 22:38, AndreyU5

At friends in the country, the screen "in a hurry". "Mallet" DRL, 250 W.

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22.06.2015 11:16, Sergey Didenko

The mallet hangs very low, you can burn all the skin, I'm not even talking about the eyes, as well as the plants of friends adjacent to the fence. The split lamp needs to be adjusted a meter higher than the pole, and an energy-saving lamp should be hung at the screen, watts at 35-45.

22.06.2015 14:53, Alexandr Zhakov

And so there are a lot of risks in life that you can add to yourself. I caught it once, on someone else's DRL, with a cracked one (not broken, the flask burst during transportation). You could make a horror movie out of us. Her eyes were red, and the skin even peeled off her lips and ears. How not to watch out, but still with a stab DRV somewhere, you will fall under the ultra-violet distribution.

24.06.2015 6:17, Bianor

By the way, I did not notice a difference in the luminous intensity and efficiency of the 125 W and 250 W cores. Now I use the first one all the time.

25.06.2015 10:27, Bad Den

The mallet hangs very low, you can burn all the skin, I'm not even talking about the eyes, as well as the plants of friends adjacent to the fence. The split lamp should be adjusted a meter higher than the pole, and an energy-saving lamp should be hung at the screen, 35-45 watts.



And so there are a lot of risks in life that you can add to yourself. I caught it once, on someone else's DRL, with a cracked one (not broken, the flask burst during transportation). You could make a horror movie out of us. Her eyes were red, and the skin even peeled off her lips and ears. How not to watch out, but still with a stab DRV somewhere, you will fall under the ultra-violet distribution.


I recommend, in addition to a wide-brimmed hat and glasses, to use sunscreen with an SPF of 30 and higher.

25.06.2015 15:06, rhopalocera.com

Friends! Please tell me, does it make sense to use such a lantern in the fields for fishing?? http://naturaliste.ru/catalog/1986



It makes sense.
But it is better to build your own light traps, which will be an order of magnitude cheaper in price, and an order of magnitude better in terms of capabilities than this miracle.

25.06.2015 15:22, Sergey Didenko

It makes sense.
But it is better to build your own light traps, which will be an order of magnitude cheaper in price, and an order of magnitude better in terms of capabilities than this miracle.

A light battery that starts the car costs from 50 to 100 pupaars on Alibaba (depending on the capacity). It is better to choose the lamp yourself ...

12.07.2015 15:07, СамПавел

Here's a diode light. Riveted brother-in-law, he works in Kiev, makes street lighting,advertising, etc.The
lantern was tested for the first time, it works very brightly, everything that moves flies flawlessly. Of course, maybe not everything goes, but compared to the headlights of the car-super

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12.07.2015 15:20, Wave Storm

SamPavel, what is the power of the diodes?

13.07.2015 16:20, СамПавел

Each diode is 2 watts
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14.07.2015 14:15, Евгений88

Give me some advice..What points to use when fishing for light.works uv. was in Optics advised ordinary glass 0. your opinion?

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14.07.2015 14:43, vasiliy-feoktistov

Give me some advice..What points to use when fishing for light.works uv. was in Optics advised ordinary glass 0. your opinion?

I didn't reply to the PM. I use ordinary glass glasses (nearsighted) and for many years my vision was stable -3 so it remains smile.giftrue, depending on which UV to use.
If I stab the DRL, then in my opinion the glasses will not save me (I don't use it).
If all these low-power UV savings tubes/tubes compared to DRL (I catch them on them) - then the glasses are saved and the pharmacy correctly advised you: glass (glass, not any plastic there) does not pass or significantly reduces UV radiation.

14.07.2015 15:07, Евгений88

I read on the forums that glasses with ordinary glass miss UV who should I believe?I use UV econom

14.07.2015 15:15, vasiliy-feoktistov

I read on the forums that glasses with ordinary glass miss UV who should I believe?I use UV economy

If the UV economy is normal: buy glass glasses and feel free to catch them.
Many forums do not write about how much UV ordinary sunlight contains, but nevertheless we all live, see normally and do not hide from light in the dark wink.gif

14.07.2015 16:20, Евгений88

And that's why I raised this question.I was not long ago at Kozlov P. From a big fan of insects, the older generation should remember him.In his youth, he was engaged in fishing for split DRL.Well, the consequences of all this are that a person is almost blind.A terrible picture.

14.07.2015 16:52, vasiliy-feoktistov

And that's why I raised this question.I was not long ago at Kozlov P. From a big fan of insects, the older generation should remember him.In his youth, he was engaged in fishing for split DRL.Well, the consequences of all this are that a person is almost blind.A terrible picture.

Housekeepers are normal (they are also household in the end), so feel free to catch them if you want to save your eyes as much as possible and collect material at the same time.
But the pricked DRL is already an invention and therefore can be fraught (((
One of the reasons why the main precaution should concern them: they are not intended to be pricked initially.

19.07.2015 18:31, mikee

Give me some advice..What points to use when fishing for light.works uv. was in Optics advised ordinary glass 0. your opinion?

Modern (non-glass) UV-resistant glasses are labeled UV400. Transmitting 5% - UV350. Ordinary glass completely absorbs UV, which is why special UV light lamps are available in quartz glass flasks.

20.07.2015 11:48, Bianor

And why look at the lamp itself? The DRL needs to be raised higher so that it lures more insects, you don't need to look at it. Once an hour, turn off and shoot down insects that cling to the cord and barbell - they immediately descend on the screen. Then turn it on again.

22.07.2015 22:23, niyaz

The two-stroke electric generator began to "eat" a lot of fuel. What could be the reason?

22.07.2015 23:15, Bad Den

The two-stroke electric generator began to "eat" a lot of fuel. What could be the reason?

Clean (or better replace - it is a piece of foam rubber) the air filter, clean the carburetor, replace the spark plug.
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22.07.2015 23:24, mikee

The two-stroke electric generator began to "eat" a lot of fuel. What could be the reason?

1. the carburetor is misaligned (incomplete fuel combustion, smokes)
2. piston group wear (incomplete fuel combustion, smokes)
3. spark plug (misfires)
4. depending on the model-failure of load feedback, i.e. constant operation at high speeds
5. reducing the capacitance of the phase-shifting capacitor (the generator must be very warm)
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07.10.2015 13:28, Bianor

The main thing is that the age was.

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07.10.2015 13:42, Alexandr Zhakov

What matters is not quantity, but quality smile.gif
But you have both smile.gif

03.11.2015 11:00, bials

Guys! Your opinion about using this one:
http://www.ru-led.ru/katalog/prozhektory-s...sberegayushchie for a moth catching stand? Maybe someone already has experience?
Light temperature, power... which one?

This post was edited by bials - 03.11.2015 11: 08

04.11.2015 15:17, ИНО

I don't see any reason why these LEDs should have any special features in this regard compared to any other lamps. That is, the higher the light temperature, the better, and the power - similarly (of course, taking into account the capabilities of the power source). You'd better ask the owners of such devices, not necessarily from among entomologists (rather, from among auto tourists), how long each model is durable and whether it really meets the stated parameters. This will be the best selection criterion. I haven't encountered such lights, but in general, if you need to power them from a portable battery, LEDs are the most important thing, and it is acceptable to switch to "cold" white ones. You can also look for ultraviolet ones.

06.11.2015 10:35, bials

I am satisfied with the lamps of this company (I have already replaced all incandescent lamps in the house and in the country. I don't care about the power source, I have a stationary stand at my dacha (so far equipped with a 250W DRL.) The stand is designed to attract moths, for macro photography.
I'm just interested in which light spectrum is more attractive for nocturnal birds: 4200 or 6000.

This post was edited by bials - 06.11.2015 10: 36

06.11.2015 11:06, okoem

I'm just interested in which light spectrum is more attractive for nocturnal birds: 4200 or 6000.

For different types - a different spectrum. Some people like to fly in a warm, yellow light.

06.11.2015 12:42, ИНО

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