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17.03.2015 13:57, Andrei Dolgikh

Use Yandex to search for it: http://yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=LH26-FS%2...lid=9582&lr=213
And maybe you will find smile.gif

I tried it!!! They're sending it!!!

17.03.2015 15:29, vasiliy-feoktistov

I tried it!!! They're sending it!!!

Well, it means independent running around local hardware stores, markets, etc. In short, everywhere where electrical goods are sold. At least I bought it for myself in ordinary electrical goods. I'm sure they sell this business here, too.

17.03.2015 20:00, okoem

I can't find the LH26-FS E27 "Blacklight" light bulb anywhereconfused.gif. Everyone sends it to Moscow wall.gif

Well in Moscow and take smile.gif

18.03.2015 1:06, Andrei Dolgikh

Well, in Moscow and take it smile.gif

Thank you for your advice!!! umnik.gif I would have fucking guessed!!!
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18.03.2015 11:46, AndreyU5

The people are kind, we are not local.... mol.gif Nowhere can I find a light bulb LH26-FS E27 "Blacklight" confused.gifAll in Moscow send wall.gifAnd spring is rushing!!! Maybe someone will tell you where to get something?!


Good afternoon! You can buy it here -http://tltmobile.ru/electriciti_and_light/energy%20saver%20lamps/ultrafiolet-color-bulbs/energy-saver-bulb-lh26-fs-blb-e27
They write that they are being sent to the regions.

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18.03.2015 23:06, Andrei Dolgikh

Good afternoon! You can buy it here -http://tltmobile.ru/electriciti_and_light/energy%20saver%20lamps/ultrafiolet-color-bulbs/energy-saver-bulb-lh26-fs-blb-e27
They write that they are being sent to the regions.

Thank you very much! I will try.

21.03.2015 18:23, Bianor

Black UV lamps are the easiest way to burn your eyes. Even the DRL core is less dangerous in this sense, since the person knows perfectly well that he is dangerous and sees the light. You can look directly at a black UV lamp and still not see the light, which, although less dangerous than that of the core, still burns the retina very effectively. By the way, plants burn under savings banks, so they are also not very useful for the eyes.
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22.03.2015 8:45, vasiliy-feoktistov

And the box just opens: it is necessary to look not at the light bulb, but at the one who will arrive.
It is not surprising to burn your eyes if you look directly at an ordinary incandescent light bulb wink.gif
In fact: for several years I have been fishing on the balcony for these lumks and have not yet burned anything to myself
As there was nearsightedness -3 in both eyes and remained so smile.gif

22.03.2015 13:51, Barnaba

Black UV lamps are the easiest way to burn your eyes. Even the DRL core is less dangerous in this sense, since the person knows perfectly well that he is dangerous and sees the light. You can look directly at a black UV lamp and still not see the light, which, although less dangerous than that of the core, still burns the retina very effectively. By the way, plants burn under savings banks, so they are also not very useful for the eyes.

In general terms, this is completely wrong. BL ("black light") and BLB lamps ("black light blue") are orders of magnitude less dangerous than" split " DRL (it is enough to compare the radiation spectrum, quantum energy at different wavelengths, light output per watt and characteristic lamp power), and in general they are relatively low-risk, which is why they are allowed to create special lighting in public places (discos, etc.). Special glass and/or phosphor cut off the most dangerous short-wave parts of the UV-A (up to 280nm) and UV-B (280-315nm) spectrum, and the main peak of radiation falls in the range of 350-380nm. There are also several smaller peaks, depending on the materials used, including always a peak in the region of 400-415nm, so that they emit visible light (some people , and I among themwink.gif, are able to perceive light in the range of 385-400nm). So-called "safe" lamps for attracting insects - usually of the BL type-differ from BLB in that they do not cut off the visible part of the radiation (more than 400 nm), but for a number of reasons, in my opinion, they are usually less effective than the "BLB+CL visible light lamp"spark. The radiation intensity of low-power (up to 50 W) fluorescent tube or compact BL and BLB lamps in UV-C at a distance of 300-400 mm from the lamp is significantly lower than that on a sunny summer day in the middle band, which is why they are considered safe. However, since close fishing distances are possible, and people's sensitivity to UV varies, it is recommended to wear safety glasses and not look directly at the lamp for a long time (just as in the desert, some people can not work without safety glasses, and it is not recommended to stare directly at the Sun).

22.03.2015 15:34, AndreyU5

With a fairly rare catch on a split DRL, I use the points of OF. Very high-quality eye protection, you just need to change a rather rigid mount to a whiter elastic one, for example, a wide soft elastic band from a headlamp. Overall, they are comfortable and comfortable for long-term wear with internal ventilation and anti-fog inserts. The short-wave (ultraviolet, blue, cyan, blue-green) and long-wave (infrared and partially red) parts of the spectrum are cut off, i.e. only the yellow-green region is passed through (visually, olive-colored light filters). As a result, the eyes are reliably protected from damage by high-intensity light (welding arc, nuclear explosion...), because yellow-green light practically does not damage
the retina. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn_9xfF1OB8#t=411

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22.03.2015 16:13, AGG

I read all this "theory", but I think about something else...
I have a friend who is a professional collector who goes to the tropics and mountains and catches money to feed his family. he went to an exotic country, bought some UV pipes, and sat there fishing....caught a lot, but...for 2 years now, he has been performing operations one after another, soldering his retina for a long time and stubbornly frown.gifyou look at the blind man and think, do I need such a light bulb? should I prick the drl? What do I want with a butterfly that I won't see again? and nothing at all?
speculations about the spectrum, waves, voltage and other heromantics will be left to the"specialists"
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22.03.2015 16:19, Maksim M.

Hard lamps should be turned on and off remotely and work on the screen without them, under normal conditions, while not being distracted by the types of protection, because 100% protection does not happen,imho...

22.03.2015 17:25, kvoncstu

Dear colleagues! This has probably already been discussed. Fees for a regular lamp are also quite effective (after 23 to 2 am). Long-term light collections of beetles in the Stavropol Territory are quite abundant.

22.03.2015 17:28, Bianor

I read all this "theory" and think about something else...

It all depends on the principle of using the lamp. If you lift the core on a three-meter pole and still wear a hat, you can safely collect insects from the screen lit by a conventional lamp. And in order for the butterflies flying at the top to descend on the screen, sometimes turn off the core and shake the rod to knock down the butterflies sitting on it. It is enough to purposefully not stare up at the light of the core and everything will be fine. Maximum - slightly scalded wrists or chin, and then only in the absence of experience.
In the case of black lamps, it is not always clear whether it is lit at all or has already gone out, it is worth nothing to look at it, since it does not detect itself. That is why its danger is many times higher than even in the obviously dangerous pricked DRL.

Fees for a regular lamp are also quite effective (after 23 to 2 am).

Unfortunately, I have not yet found anything that could replace the DRL in terms of efficiency. Species that do not react at all to the light of any other lamps fly to its light. You can regularly shine in the same place and still not see a noticeable part of the local fauna, which may even be very numerous, but completely ignores the usual light.

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22.03.2015 18:05, okoem

Species that do not react at all to the light of any other lamps fly to its light.

Could you name which species you have observed that do not fly to other lamps?

22.03.2015 18:49, Maksim M.

Well, for example, on a trip in the direction of R.Don,in 2014,06., for 5 nights from the screen did not take a single practically bug.Scoops with yellow lower wings,3-4 species were caught in dozens of wine traps,but not a single one was born, so marble crushers flew by dozens, but only a few were caught.The reason-the moon after 23-00, if-would have used a stab, which I, in principle, ignore, the intensity of summer would have been higher, it is known.And now on trips there will always be a split one available, because on long trips-you need to catch it in full!!!

22.03.2015 19:18, дмитрий иванин

good day I apologize for maybe a banal question and why not make a serial connection like in a garland y. f lamp and a weak simple one as a control that uv in the network with remote disconnection and on the screen make a purely simple one and while the top one is lit do not look up and after disconnecting calmly collect then

22.03.2015 19:32, AGG

I'm not going to calculate the catchability coefficient, I'm stating a fact! all further movements are on your conscience

22.03.2015 20:06, Bianor

Could you name which species you have observed that do not fly to other lamps?

The article hasn't been published yet. If it comes out , I'll tell you.

22.03.2015 20:52, Diogen


Unfortunately, I have not yet found anything that could replace the DRL in terms of efficiency. Species that do not react at all to the light of any other lamps fly to its light. You can regularly shine in the same place and still not see a noticeable part of the local fauna, which may even be very numerous, but completely ignores the usual light.



In the civilized world, all these DRL and DRV have not been used for a long time, this is a wild anachronism. How do you order the generator and all its accessories to be dragged to places where it is impossible to pass, but it is necessary to fish? Last season I was very successful in catching a light in Ala Archa, in the upper part of it. All my light-air cargo was no heavier than 4 kg.

Oh, yes, we're talking about efficiency... I have never seen anything more effective than a combination of black and white ultraviolet light. Nothing. During the night, absolutely everything that lives nearby comes to the trap. Including beetles and straight-winged beetles, ascalaphs, equidactyls, and so on.

22.03.2015 20:58, Barnaba

good day I apologize for maybe a banal question and why not make a serial connection as in a garland y. f lamp and a weak simple as a control that uv in the network with remote shutdown and on the screen to make a purely simple and while the top one is lit do not look up and disconnect calmly collect then

Even this is not necessary. Having tried dozens of types of UV lamps, I have not yet encountered the problem of distinguishing a burning lamp from a switched-off one. But if there is such a problem, it is enough to tie a piece of fabric next to it, luminescent in UV, or just reflective tape - everything will be visible, as you can see the working screen from the corresponding grid or fabric.

22.03.2015 22:22, Victor Titov

Well, for example, on a trip in the direction of R.Don, in 2014,06., for 5 nights...marble crushers-they flew by the dozens, but only a few were caught.The reason-the moon after 23-00, if-would have used a stab, which I, in principle, ignore, the intensity of summer would have been higher, it is known.

I don't know, I don't know... In Turkey (Goynuk, Bodrum), dozens of lamps were placed directly on the illuminated territory of the Polyphylla olivieri hotels, located 30 meters away from each other, or even closer.

22.03.2015 22:54, AndreyU5

I read all this "theory" and think about something else...


This is a "pro-poor conversation". So much has already been written here about the dangers and benefits of stab DRL that only the lazy did not insert their "five kopecks". There was already, and more than once, a story about an entomologist who lost his sight, even with an offer to provide the address of the victim. I would like to believe that quite capable people have gathered here and everyone who uses the "mallet" represents its dangerous consequences for health. I do not recommend using a stab DRL, only suggest that when working with it, use personal protective equipment and observe max.be careful.

23.03.2015 6:06, Bianor

This is a "pro-poor conversation".

These are attempts to justify their phobias to the core. The same attempts are often made by those who mow down the army-it's scary, but there is nothing to justify it with, except to refer to the fact that there is some vassal of my vassal who was "brainwashed".
It is strange that such conversations about DRL even arise. Anyone who tried it could evaluate its effectiveness for themselves. The danger, if elementary measures are taken, is minimal. All this has already been tested, and more than once. It seems that the opponents of the core are waiting to be persuaded, by God.

23.03.2015 10:18, AndreyU5

  
The danger, if elementary measures are taken, is minimal. All this has already been tested, and more than once.


Yes, this entails certain inconveniences: a hat with a brim, eye protection, etc. To protect yourself, you need to make some gestures. Someone is afraid, someone is lazy. It's easier to say - And nah me such a butterfly... And go out in the evening, have a beer on the summer porch.
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23.03.2015 21:47, Barnaba

Dear colleagues, has anyone had any experience with the Patriot Garden&Power 1000i generator? What are the reviews?

01.04.2015 12:39, пимуров

tell me and someone tried fishing on LED lampi who will say what?

01.04.2015 13:00, okoem

tell me and someone tried fishing on LED lampi who will say what?

I tried it. Caught.

01.04.2015 13:21, пимуров

and please tell me what is the lamp power and temperature?And only on ice or in a place with some other light sources?

02.04.2015 13:59, okoem

and please tell me what is the lamp power and temperature?And only on ice or in a place with some other light sources?

I have a power of 15 watts, the temperature is "cold white". Only on LED.

11.04.2015 21:26, niyaz

When fishing for light, I tie one end of the screen rope to the roof rail of the car. The height of the railing from the ground is 170 cm. What would you think up to tie a rope to a car at a height of 200 cm?

11.04.2015 23:14, Bad Den

When fishing for light, I tie one end of the screen rope to the roof rail of the car. The height of the railing from the ground is 170 cm. What would you think up to tie a rope to a car at a height of 200 cm?

Lift the vehicle 30 cm with a rack and pinion jack smile.gif

11.04.2015 23:44, niyaz

Lift the vehicle 30 cm with a rack and pinion jack smile.gif

The construction will not be stable.

12.04.2015 3:09, Barnaba

When fishing for light, I tie one end of the screen rope to the roof rail of the car. The height of the railing from the ground is 170 cm. What would you think up to tie a rope to a car at a height of 200 cm?

Option 1 (for the rich). Buy a good powerful clamp of this size and properties, so that holding the rail with your lips, you can tie a rope to the free rod sticking up. Improvement for the poor, but hardworking: make the clamp yourself from improvised iron (preferably profile) and a plate with four bolts, protect the railing with a rubber gasket, make a hole for the rope in the iron, and 2 more holes for 2 elastic guy wires to the remote ends of the opposite rail.
Option 2 (popular). Find a piece of iron or a stick of suitable length, with appropriate comments, fix its lower end to the rail with nylon twine criss-cross or tape in 150 turns, stretch it with two constructed twine to the opposite rail. Work together, under the fly.
Option 3 (for the lazy but resourceful). Next to the car, immediately install a cut down stake with a height of 200 cm with a rogueline or split at the top, pass the rope through the top of the stake (you can use fixing turns) and tie it to the railing at a height of 170 cm with the shortest possible shoulder to the stake. Put an old padded jacket between the stake and the car. If necessary, install stake braces for durability.
Option 4.... and so on.
Can I ask you what all this is about? How is 200cm better than 170?

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12.04.2015 8:12, Guest

Buy a good powerful clamp of this size and properties, so that holding the rail with your lips, you can tie a rope to the free rod sticking up.

Thank you. This option is suitable. I looked at the sites, there are different options, cheaper and more expensive.

Can I ask you what all this is about? How is 200cm better than 170?

Comfortable. The lamp shines higher, the screen doesn't touch the ground, and the rope doesn't touch your head when you walk around.

06.05.2015 14:26, IGAS

Colleagues! I haven't read the topic, so I don't have time to study all 65 pages yet, but I'll definitely come back to this. Tell me, is there an option for any portable wireless lamp with a built-in battery? I really want to shine, but I can only get there on foot to the biotopes I need. Thank you for your help.

11.05.2015 15:19, Aramisderble

Same question: Are there any battery-operated UV lamps? A large battery/generator is not an option.

11.05.2015 15:34, okoem

Tell me, is there an option for any portable wireless lamp with a built-in battery?

Such options exist and have already been discussed.

Same question: Are there any battery-operated UV lamps? Large battery/..."not an option.
There are no miracles. frown.gif

11.05.2015 16:22, alex017

Same question: Are there any battery-operated UV lamps? A large battery/generator is not an option.

There are UV LEDs that can be used with DC-powered drivers. There are lithium 18650 batteries.
There is a 12V epra for lumlamps. Everything is there.....A huge amount, there would be a desire.

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30.05.2015 10:01, Romyald

..and what is known about this device-the Patriot 1000i 474101025 inverter generator, like its weight is already available-8.5 kg.?

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