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Yakovlev: "My father is a very high-ranking official. VERY"

Here is an interseno, if it were possible to "run the matrix" without this variable, what would Yakovlev hold opinions about everything and everything

"To the question of what I am ready to do - I am ready to try to achieve a contented high position by honest work and then try to sweep out the filth in my place from the area where I am a professional. even if I have to use the Witch's Hammer manual to do it. Help young people who are passionate about entomology. Try to keep the world level of priority in those areas where I am strong. That's all."

What a horror

PS
It's been 9 or 8 years, and there is still no"quote highlighted"? Exactly, there is nothing more conservative than science, and scientific forums reflect this paradigm)))

They're going to tell us that Dad had nothing to do with it. I achieved everything on my own.

Yakovlev: "My father is a very high-ranking official. VERY"

Here is an interseno, if it were possible to "run the matrix" without this variable, what would Yakovlev hold opinions about everything and everything

"To the question of what I am ready to do - I am ready to try to achieve a contented high position by honest work and then try to sweep out the filth in my place from the area where I am a professional. even if I have to use the Witch's Hammer manual to do it. Help young people who are passionate about entomology. Try to keep the world level of priority in those areas where I am strong. That's all."

What a horror

PS
It's been 9 or 8 years, and there is still no"quote highlighted"? Exactly, there is nothing more conservative than science, and scientific forums reflect this paradigm)))

Horror, these are anonymous people on the forum. Run the matrix without this variable-analyze it.

They're going to tell us that Dad had nothing to do with it. I achieved everything on my own.

What can I assure you of? And what does it mean to achieve everything on your own? I was surrounded by books, my father taught me how to catch insects and set up a collection, and I was fanatical about it. What did I achieve? If I were running a major hospital, running a pharmacy chain, or working in the Administration, you might think so. My position is very modest.
Taking reality in a negative light - it is difficult to see something in a positive light. It's very easy to sit thousands of miles away. and bark at each other. You better help someone determine something on the branch - the definition of butterflies, put your photos in the branch images of insects... Isn't it more interesting than sitting and exchanging words? I'm sorry, but your view of the world is very categorical. Are you not a member of the Cossacks?
Today konung from Omsk and Sergey Titov from Pavlodar will come to me and spend the night. Therefore, we must wait for guests, buy food and drinks. Anton Volynkin will also do. So discuss it, Dmitry, and we'll sit down and talk. They want to work with my library and collection, and it's always very pleasant to get to know each other very well. We are also familiar with you - we were in Zina 8-9 years ago at the congress.
Hello everyone

Here, by the way... Our forum, in fact, enjoys the hospitality of the portal of molecular biologists. If you go through the forum tree, you can get to them. And ask how they store information about nucleotide sequences in genomes, for example. And under what conditions it is provided to those who wish.

There is such a resource - GenBank: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Taxonomy/Browser/wwwtax.cgi
Information is provided on completely open terms. In most cases, when publishing the results of mol. biol. the authors submit their research sequences to GenBank. A number of journals are not even accepted for publication without it.

They're going to tell us that Dad had nothing to do with it. I achieved everything on my own.

That's what Dad is for, to make it easier for his son. If a person WORKS and EVERYTHING WORKS OUT for him, then what difference does it make - "by himself" or"not by himself"? Why does no one criticize Yakovlev for describing" left-wing " taxa and publishing shitty, useless literature? Because it doesn't exist! A person works conscientiously and it doesn't matter where he gets the money for it. The result is important. Oh, Ross And me... During the life of gnobyat, after the death of the order posthumously awarded... Entomology for most of us is a purely unprofitable occupation in material terms. Therefore, at least appreciate the fact (if you do not appreciate the results of his work at all) that a person does not invest money in the porn industry and drugs (although this is much more profitable). In fact, all criticism of Yakovlev boils down to the following: "you, Roma, spend more money on entomology than we do, so you are a kurkul and we envy you." It is sad, but NEVER a poor person can adequately conduct a study of any group of living beings. Serious research means serious money. The more people with money there are in entomology, the faster the whole tasonomic chaos will be sorted out. Appreciate and respect people like Yakovlev. The late Yuri Pavlovich Nekrutenko was absolutely right when he said that "science should be elitist", in other words-the elite of society should be engaged in science. And we ("poor amateurs") should soberly assess our capabilities and if we are not smart enough to "earn more" - live according to the conclusions made. No money for a trip to Peru or New Zealand-fuck them. Work in your local area. Not everyone can be great.

2palvasru4ko:
I think you are also wrong. It is better to say this: make the most of what is available - and you will find it. Remember: J.-A. Fabre also did not ride in the Amazons, worked as a teacher, sat on a vacant lot in the south of France (Simferopol is clearly not worse for an entomologist). Does anyone say about him "not everyone can be great"?

And in general, compare: how much of their objects "squeezes" the average entomologist, and how much-the average ornithologist? There is someone to look up to

This post was edited by PVOzerski - 04.11.2010 11: 11

Oh, really. at my father's, my father's, my father's, the pope was an Austrian envoy to the court of Catherine II. sho me now, easier to live from this? yes nifiga. it is easier to live only for those who have a father, but no conscience. I've known Roman for a long time - he definitely has a conscience.

Well, these are separate multiple themes you can organize. For example: to what extent should science be international? There is also a lot of pleasant things there, including those related to the subject of discussion. It is one thing when material is collected on the territory of Russia, Ukraine, or Kazakhstan for sale to foreigners. Another is when articles are published in "murzilki" that do not go beyond the borders of several Russian libraries. The third is when leading Western museums refuse to provide Russian researchers with standard material - and this also happens (one taxonomist I respect very much, when faced with such a situation, spat and described everything dubious and left unchecked as new taxa, arguing that the failure to pass an important revision would cause much more harm than from the fact that the project was not approved). pairs of synonyms in it).

Horror, these are anonymous people on the forum. Run the matrix without this variable and analyze it.

Well, yes, of course, horror, but this "horror" is the main ideology of the Internet, by the way.
Without this variable, it will not be the Internet, but a "state house". That's the whole analysis.
As for who has how much money - it is really unethical to discuss and condemn it, but it is also unethical to make a certain protrusion of one's status.
This is the seed for such discussions.

If a person writes nonsense on the forum-such as "there are more Japanese than Russians" - you start to think about its adequacy,

There are 113 million Russians in Russia.
In Japan, 125 million rubles. the Japanese.
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia#.
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan#.

Misconceptions are persistent.
What's stupid and what's not?
And who is adequate and who is not?
I don't want to offend anyone.

http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D1%83%...%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%AF%D0%BF%...%BD%D1%86%D1%8B

  http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D1%83%...%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%AF%D0%BF%...%BD%D1%86%D1%8B

to point

  http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D1%83%...%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%AF%D0%BF%...%BD%D1%86%D1%8B

It's listed like this. There are more Japanese in Japan (127 million - for comparability, we take only Japan itself) than Russians in the Russian Federation (116 million). Further, a large number of Russians (145 million) is taken from somewhere, but with a link (attention!) on the Russian Population Census of 2002. As far as I know, the population census in Russia was not carried out outside the Russian Federation. Sorry for the pun. Therefore, the large figure is not supported by anything, i.e. taken from the ceiling.

You don't need to thank me for the lesson of analytical work with the source.

This post was edited by Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg - 04.11.2010 23: 04

A strange lesson, these two links give data on the number of Russians as a nation, and Japanese as a nation. As a result, there are more Russians. You simply did not read the article carefully, seeing in it what you currently wanted to see. Reference to the 2002 census is given for the figure of 116mn Russians living in the Russian Federation.
In general, the facts are horrifying. If you compare the population of Russia and Japan and the area of these countries.

I felt a little sad...Bad now with the analysis of simple even facts in ZINA

heh... let's work together to improve the demographic situation in the country :D

A strange lesson, these two links give data on the number of Russians as a nation, and Japanese as a nation. As a result, there are more Russians. You simply did not read the article carefully, seeing in it what you currently wanted to see. Reference to the 2002 census is given for the figure of 116mn Russians living in the Russian Federation.
In general, the facts are horrifying. If you compare the population of Russia and Japan and the area of these countries.

I'm sorry! Yes, I saw the link - I looked at it inattentively. However, there are only percentages, not absolute numbers.

This post was edited by Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg - 05.11.2010 00: 14

The size of the Russian population in other countries is given according to the censuses of these countries conducted in different years. The links are all in place.

So the lesson for me is not to rush, but to read the source carefully.

I'm sorry! Yes, I saw the link - I looked at it inattentively. However, there are only percentages, not absolute numbers.

How will you describe the species? You're scaring me. There is also a complete order with the numbers.

This post was edited by omar - 05.11.2010 00: 21

There is such a resource - GenBank: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Taxonomy/Browser/wwwtax.cgi

Please pay attention to the first-level domain. This refers to the question of who is responsible for the stability of the servers and who is interested in it.

"Well, let the state government maintain a worldwide catalog of taxa. But from what it could be grown: http://zipcodezoo.com/ Let them buy it from the owners. One thing is bad: if free software can be legally "forked" if necessary (for example, due to disagreement with the original authors) (that is, to spin off your own project based on someone else's), then to "fork", say, the Code is to roll back to pre - Strickland times.

This post was edited by PVOzerski - 05.11.2010 01: 26

And raids, mirrors... All this is from the evil one. Picking up data from a raid is much more difficult than from a single drive, and the screws in the mirror usually die in pairs . Statistics are hard stuff, alas...

Stas, I don't know if you've seen this article before:

http://ratibor59.livejournal.com/478174.html
and the beginning
http://stas-blinoff.livejournal.com/12484.html

I particularly remember one phrase that, in my opinion, is related to the safety of information:

"Which are connected by their private optical network, their dedicated networks, and are powered by private power plants." As a classic would say, this is not a small thing, or rather, it is such a small thing that can become crucial.

A strange lesson, these two links give data on the number of Russians as a nation, and Japanese as a nation. As a result, there are more Russians. You simply did not read the article carefully, seeing in it what you currently wanted to see. Reference to the 2002 census is given for the figure of 116mn Russians living in the Russian Federation.
In general, the facts are horrifying. If you compare the population of Russia and Japan and the area of these countries.

The funny thing is that nature in Japan is better preserved than in our country (in the European part, Western Siberia). Although in the cities they go over each other's heads. Stop arguing - I'm tired of it.

That's what Dad is for, to make it easier for his son. If a person WORKS and EVERYTHING WORKS OUT for him, then what difference does it make - "by himself" or"not by himself"? Why does no one criticize Yakovlev for describing" left-wing " taxa and publishing shitty, useless literature? Because it doesn't exist! A person works conscientiously and it doesn't matter where he gets the money for it. The result is important. Oh, Ross And me... During the life of gnobyat, after the death of the order posthumously awarded... Entomology for most of us is a purely unprofitable occupation in material terms. Therefore, at least appreciate the fact (if you do not appreciate the results of his work at all) that a person does not invest money in the porn industry and drugs (although this is much more profitable). In fact, all criticism of Yakovlev boils down to the following: "you, Roma, spend more money on entomology than we do, so you are a kurkul and we envy you." It is sad, but NEVER a poor person can adequately conduct a study of any group of living beings. Serious research means serious money. The more people with money there are in entomology, the faster the whole tasonomic chaos will be sorted out. Appreciate and respect people like Yakovlev. The late Yuri Pavlovich Nekrutenko was absolutely right when he said that "science should be elitist", in other words-the elite of society should be engaged in science. And we ("poor amateurs") should soberly assess our capabilities and if we are not smart enough to "earn more" - live according to the conclusions made. No money for a trip to Peru or New Zealand-fuck them. Work in your local area. Not everyone can be great.

In each area, you can make amazing discoveries. About how Pavel Ruchko makes drugs, what kind of scientific drawing he has - you can learn a lot, including a number of luminaries. We are not really talking about any elitism here - all this smells like some kind of chauvinism. Any very enthusiastic and hardworking person can do huge things in entomology in their local area.

The funny thing is that nature in Japan is better preserved than in our country (in the European part, Western Siberia). Although in the cities they go over each other's heads. Stop arguing - I'm tired of it.

Here, I "visited" Japan with the help of Google earth Indeed, interseno, that visually the forest areas correspond to what is written-about 70% of forests. The hills are mostly forested, and there are settlements in the valleys almost everywhere. Quite large forest fragments, up to 10X2km, are wedged into large cities. However, Tokyo is a horror, D130 Km is a solid urban zone, I already felt bad when I imagined that someone lives there in the very center, who likes to be "in the field".
In Japan, this was obviously due to the use of mainly seafood, plus the climate is mostly subtropical, but in general, I was surprised by the climatic diversity-from almost the climate of the middle zone with the Tsr of winter -3.3 C(well, just like in our country ) to the pure tropics with Tsr of winter +17C.
Therefore, there are whole forests, and in general the load on the natural resources of the land(heh, the load on the land they have pradva is still the same ))) ) not so big.
Well naevrnoe in Japan, but alas, we do not have Japan
Although, in terms of staying in nature-they probably look at it askance, it's probably not that you can't catch a butterfly, you can't go there. Live in an urban zone and watch nature on a huge TV.

I visited Japan with the help of Aeroflot and Tokyo Agricultural University in December 2009. You can catch and walk anywhere. The country is very beautiful, the nature is super. And Tokyo is the city of the future. It's a good country - but it's very difficult to live there - people have terrible loads, students sleep on the floor in the corridors. Life is different there. If true, then nature just shook-the wilds!!!

Stas, I don't know if you've seen this article before:

http://ratibor59.livejournal.com/478174.html
and the beginning
http://stas-blinoff.livejournal.com/12484.html

I particularly remember one phrase that, in my opinion, is related to the safety of information:

Dan, it's all good. I was involved in the design of one such file storage facility located in Toronto. A five-story building, packed from floor to ceiling with CDs. But Google is not the standard for storing and providing information, the company works as long as it makes money. As soon as it stops bringing them, all its services will be closed. Science, of course, is dependent on investment, but it should not be dependent on private companies.

Nature is amazing everywhere, but only about Tokyo - the city of the future, you don't need to write such horror out loud-the world of virtual reality, completely isolated from nature "anthropocenosis".
To draw conclusions about how you can catch and walk there, you need to live there for a certain time, because there may be such an option that 1 all these are fairy tales and you can't go anywhere there, and even more so you can't catch 2 with their pace of life, there simply won't be time to climb the fields 3 both.

Nature is amazing everywhere, but only about Tokyo - the city of the future, you don't need to write such horror out loud-the world of virtual reality, completely isolated from nature "anthropocenosis".
To draw conclusions about how you can catch and walk there, you need to live there for a certain time, because there may be such an option that 1 all these are fairy tales and you can't go anywhere there, and even more so you can't catch 2 with their pace of life, there simply won't be time to climb the fields 3 both.

Oh, Jesus! You've looked at Google Earth and you know everything - I've been to Japan and communicate with Japanese people every day, I've been going to the field with them every year since 2002... you have a strange approach to business, sir.

Oh, Jesus! You've looked at Google Earth and you know everything - I've been to Japan and communicate with Japanese people every day, I've been going to the field with them every year since 2002... You have a strange approach to business, sir.

You know everything, judging by the tone of your messages. My approach to business is based on doubt and comparison, I do not accept the principle of "authorities".
Suddenly, I happen to visit Japan, and I don't need any universities-let me climb through all sorts of wilds, and there is probably a video camera in every hollow tree, then they will ask why I went to trample on relict communities, and what will I say that Yakovlev said-you can climb everywhere?)))

This post was edited by Hierophis-05.11.2010 12: 04

There are no cameras. Well, don't doubt it, it's a young case. What can I do here

In every locality, you can make amazing discoveries. [ ... ] We are not really talking about any elitism here - all this smells like some kind of chauvinism. Any very enthusiastic and hardworking person can do huge things in entomology in their local area.

No one disputes this. I probably put it wrong. I wanted to say that only a financially secure person (or someone who is sponsored by others) can really understand a group over a large territory (up to the global volume). The word "elitism" came up from a quote. I'm not a fan of chauvinism. You just need to look at things soberly: those who have no money have no choice but to plow the expanses of their native land. No one says it's useless. A bunch of entomologists work in the same area all their lives and have made a lot of local discoveries. All this is also very important and necessary. It is simply much easier for those who have the money to conduct an audit of a particular group on the scale of several countries or continents. It is such works that are "aerobatics". You can take pictures with a "soap box", or you can use a Nikon D3X device (for example) with a set of discrete high-speed lenses. And there and there - the goal is the same (to capture the moment), and those and other pictures have the right to life. But only in the second case there is a greater POTENTIAL for creating masterpieces (although the technique itself is not a guarantee of a masterpiece). I don't know. did I manage to explain my position?.. In short: if you don't have enough money, do what you have enough money for, put your whole soul into it and don't envy those who have more opportunities. And the prices of books... Books were never cheap. If there is no money at all, then $ 5 will be expensive. Intelligent work is appreciated only by those who do it themselves (or at least tried to). Copies and scans were, are, and will be (even if utopia wins and books become cheap). EVERYONE has copies and scans. Just their appearance (copies and scans), at least on the INTERNET, should be coordinated with the author. I apologize for any possible off-topic chatter...

2palvasru4ko:
And I tried to say that in taxonomy, the entomologist's light doesn't have to converge in a wedge. There is ecology, ethology, microevolution... yes, a lot of things that quite fit into the concept of"working with insects". It is clear that people are different, for some it is a way out, for some it is not. And yet... Agree, many of us became interested in insects not from the type of "specimens" on pins - but from reading Marikovsky, Fabre or, like me, Plavilshchikov (I'm talking about his books for children, not about the determinant). And it described the life of insects, not the number of segments on their legs. Apparently, someone had a substitution of interests, and someone still continues to conduct naturalistic observations during faunal collections.

There are no cameras. Well, don't doubt it, it's a young case. What can I do about it

I really doubt that there you can just wander around "natural" places like that. Probably need some regalia. Simply, this is a world practice, and it is probably well developed in "civilized" countries, in fact, this is also true in the Russian Federation, but no one looks at it there, well, unless you get caught by some nature protection activists.

No one disputes this. I probably put it wrong. I wanted to say that only a financially secure person (or someone who is sponsored by others) can really understand a group over a large territory (up to the global volume). The word "elitism" came up from a quote.

As you have reduced everything to well-known truths, in the first message there were more specifics
Only here about the fact that books should be expensive in vain, under the USSR books were not expensive, but it was part of the ideology of universal literacy, and now books are more part of the ideology of bablism. Information should be available to everyone, even if it is necessary to raise awareness, and it is precisely the reduction in the cost of data replication and their increased availability that has contributed to progress. If earlier the work was handwritten and was in three or five copies in monasteries, then it should have been very lucky that this work was read by "who needs it", who is able to advance this field. And even any other works, not necessarily science, it should be publicly available at least for the sake of humanity itself.

What can I assure you of? And what does it mean to achieve everything on your own? I was surrounded by books, my father taught me how to catch insects and set up a collection, and I was fanatical about it. What did I achieve? If I were running a major hospital, running a pharmacy chain, or working in the Administration, you might think so. My position is very modest.
Taking reality in a negative light - it is difficult to see something in a positive light. It's very easy to sit thousands of miles away. and bark at each other. You better help someone determine something on the branch - the definition of butterflies, put your photos in the branch images of insects... Isn't it more interesting than sitting and exchanging words? I'm sorry, but your view of the world is very categorical. Are you not a member of the Cossacks?
Today konung from Omsk and Sergey Titov from Pavlodar will come to me and spend the night. Therefore, we must wait for guests, buy food and drinks. Anton Volynkin will also do. So discuss it, Dmitry, and we'll sit down and talk. They want to work with my library and collection, and it's always very pleasant to get to know each other very well. We are also familiar with you - we were in Zina 8-9 years ago at the congress.
Hello everyone

I think that if you receive only a salary in a modest position, you will not get so much money and you will not buy books. So don't talk about the position.
The Definition of Butterflies has enough specialists without me.
What does the Cossacks have to do with it? And are you against the Cossacks?
Different people also came to see me. And I didn't say no to anyone.
I don't understand it, as if it gives me any particular pleasure to discuss it. But it's too hot a topic.
Thank you, I have a good memory and I perfectly remember the August 2002 REO congress.
Please understand that I have nothing against anyone here personally. I am against positions like: "no money - there is no need to get involved in science."

I think that if you receive only a salary in a modest position, you will not get so much money and you will not buy books. So don't talk about the position.

How ridiculous all this is. is it my fault that my books are on the shelves? Is that a bad thing? I don't know what the reproaches are. Do I have to make excuses for having a lot of books? I love it. Is it my fault that I go wherever I want in the field? What kind of wording - do not talk about positions, receiving only a salary... What the hell is this? Stop it, for God's sake.

I don't understand something, you're taking a piece out of context and completely misinterpreting the idea. Is this the style?
Where in the post did I say that you personally are to blame for something? Where did I say in the topic that having books is bad? Why are my statements constantly being misrepresented?

I don't understand something, you're taking a piece out of context and completely misinterpreting the idea. Is this the style?
Where in the post did I say that you personally are to blame for something? Where did I say in the topic that having books is bad? Why are my statements constantly being misrepresented?

And where did I take something out of context - your sentence is taken with some kind of " just don't talk about this and that..." Is this such a style? Then they accuse me that I only put up a list of articles, then when they find out that some of them are freely available, they praise me "well done ..." Is this the style? You have a week without a year on the forum, where many people have joint publications and trips thanks to it, get very interesting material.