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19.10.2013 11:58, Peter Khramov

If the quality of the cardboard suits everyone, then it will be 20x12, and other sizes plus triangles/pentagons.

19.10.2013 12:15, Maksim M.

Peter, I probably need to send you the money,but if you don't have it, you'll need both the amount and the address...

19.10.2013 12:41, Peter Khramov

Maxim, we'll call you on Monday...

12.11.2013 15:57, Peter Khramov

New micro-samples for your review
For inexpensive micro-samples, there were complaints that they were inconvenient to attach to a pin. Now there is a new version, with covers that can still be hooked with pins.
We need feedback on whether it is convenient to cling, whether something is spilling, whether the lids are holding up well, etc. If you can compare it with other models, that's fine.
I give away packs of 100 microbeads for free for reviews. Speed is important, so users from Moscow and other cities with delivery in a few business days will also make a free pickup (and in Moscow I can also cross paths), i.e. you don't have to pay anything at all.

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If you are interested, write to the BOS or call the store's phone numbers and ask them to switch to Peter.
If the tests are passed successfully, then micro-samples will appear, which will be noticeably cheaper than the ones with separate samples themselves.

This post was edited by Asar - 12.11.2013 16: 00

12.11.2013 16:48, Konung

12.11.2013 18:17, Peter Khramov

and how are they even attached to a pin?

For the cap / stopper.

This post was edited by Asar - 12.11.2013 18: 17

12.11.2013 18:31, Konung

For the cap / stopper.

does it pierce normally? and what are the dimensions of the test tubes?

12.11.2013 18:46, Peter Khramov

So I just want to find out from the reviews of people-whether they are normally pierced, convenient/inconvenient, etc.
In terms of size-yes, what I stepped on, I didn't write right away :-- ) Volume 0.2 ml, length without lid ~2 cm.
I want to compare it with these: http://lepstore.ru/catalog/1584 - very inexpensive, but clinging with a pin is quite inconvenient (see the review of Roman on the link page) and with such: http://lepstore.ru/catalog/1542 it seems to be convenient, but, bastards, expensive and shameful in production.

This post was edited by Asar - 12.11.2013 19: 05

22.11.2013 13:25, Peter Khramov

There was a break in working with the Russian Post. After about a week, we start sending orders through them again to those regions where there is no civil delivery. But this is exactly what an additional delivery option is, the main one remains courier delivery to the door or to pick-up points.

26.11.2013 21:01, Peter Khramov

Micro-test tube question: dry coating of the inner walls of a test tube made of ethylenediaminacetic acid how does it affect the use of genitals in storage? Better, worse, or parallel?

This post was edited by Asar - 26.11.2013 21: 01

08.12.2013 19:41, Peter Khramov

There are two bubbles of Italian glue — one more dense (positioned for large animals), one thinner and more transparent (positioned for small things and parts of insects). If any of the buggers can compare with Hercules (and, for starters, sees flaws in this very Hercules :-- ) I would love to meet you in Moscow and give you a suitable bottle (or both, if both are relevant to you) for a test / comparison, and at the same time drink a beer.
Who is relevant-write in the subject or in BOS.

09.12.2013 10:47, Bad Den

There are two bubbles of Italian glue — one more dense (positioned for large animals), one thinner and more transparent (positioned for small things and parts of insects). If any of the buggers can compare with Hercules (and, for starters, sees flaws in this very Hercules :-- ) I would love to meet you in Moscow and give you a suitable bottle (or both, if both are relevant to you) for a test / comparison, and at the same time drink a beer.

From afar, the topic started! smile.gif

I didn't notice any differences when using them with Entosfynx ones.

09.12.2013 12:17, Penzyak

  New micro-samples for your review
For inexpensive micro-samples, there were complaints that they were inconvenient to attach to a pin. Now there is a new version, with covers that can still be hooked with pins.
We need feedback on whether it is convenient to cling, whether something is spilling, whether the lids are holding up well, etc. If you can compare it with other models, that's fine.


Peter, on a whim about micro-samples, I can immediately say:
1. it is necessary that the micro-sample was still shorter.
2. the bottom is rounded and not elongated.
3. the eye should be not only on the lid but also on the tube itself - so that they would be opposite each other and
4. The depth of the plug should be 1/3 of the tube and even a little more...

In terms of nets and equipment, things seem to have moved forward at our university - we have chosen a new rector, and after the new year we will ask again... I'll write.

09.12.2013 23:39, Peter Khramov

From afar, the topic started! smile.gif
:--))

About the dies passed at the congress - I didn't notice any differences when used with Entosfinks ' ones.
Thank you for your feedback, now we will just cut new sizes, as well as triangular and pentagonal ones.

This post was edited by Asar - 09.12.2013 23: 39

09.12.2013 23:42, Peter Khramov


2. the bottom is rounded and not elongated.
Do standard ento-suppliers have them? I'd like to see it...

3. the eye should be not only on the lid but also on the test tube itself - so that they are opposite each other
Do they even exist? I do not observe ears even in standard ones.

4. I think the depth of the plug should be 1/3 of the test tube and even a little more...
Mmm. And why?

In terms of nets and equipment, things seem to have moved forward at our university - we have chosen a new rector, and after the new year we will ask again... write.
Ok, there will be ready bags for nets Lepstor just, and maybe not only bags, at the same time and you can test the bu.

This post was edited by Asar - 09.12.2013 23: 43

31.01.2014 19:35, Peter Khramov

We start making our own bags for nets. Need feedback on the rag. Now we have ready samples of white color for rims of 35 and 40 cm (compatible with opening rims of the Entosfinx type). Who is going to catch a thread soon-I suggest taking it for free for a review. In terms of strength, the bags should be no worse or better than entosphinx and paradox, and in terms of softness / lack of hooks, they should be noticeably better. I have nothing to compare the color features with right now, there are no European whites at hand, but it looks like ours are more brilliant. Well, the overall impression will also be interesting to hear from you, and not just these features. Who is interested in taking it, write to the site, in this topic or in the BOS (preferably immediately with a contact phone number).
If the reviews are positive, then bags will appear in the assortment at lower prices than foreign
ones. P. S. Another question: if instead of the classic khaki there is a gray-green version — I understand correctly that it is quite good, and it is not necessary to rest your horn in khaki? Like, gray-burmaline color that does not stand out against the background of dirt, but okay?

This post was edited by Asar - 31.01.2014 19: 36

31.01.2014 23:22, Sergey Rybalkin

Entosphinx lasted three seasons, and it will last . probably more than one season! Good fabric! Only, the one I bought in 2010 is much more gentle than 2011 and 2013. They also change something, but for me, not for the better. I much prefer their old fabric, new rough some....

01.02.2014 1:42, Bad Den


PS Another question: if instead of the classic khaki there is a gray-green version — I understand correctly that it is quite good, and it is not necessary to rest your horn on khaki? Like, gray-burmaline color that does not stand out against the background of dirt, but okay?

Ornithopters fly to red, and mountain parnassus-to white-reviews, don't mix it up! ))))
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01.02.2014 14:23, AGG

I much prefer their old fabric, new rough some....

have you tried to wash it? sometimes it helps well

02.02.2014 11:35, Sergey Rybalkin

have you tried to wash it? sometimes it helps well


I tried it, but it didn't help. Really different fabrics.

05.02.2014 22:45, Peter Khramov

Someone before NG asked about 30 looped boxes, I can't find who. Knock on the BOS, who asked if they are now available, whether you should postpone or not.

06.02.2014 14:46, Peter Khramov

Of the test bags, only one remained, 35 cm, white, matte (not shiny).

This post was edited by Asar - 06.02.2014 14: 46

06.02.2014 16:30, Penzyak

Do standard ento-suppliers have them? I would like to see...
Do they even exist? I do not observe ears even in standard ones.
Mmm. And why?

- these are my personal wishes based on many years of experience.
Based on usability and reliability. Sensible products of this type suitable for small / small butterflies and medium / small insects do not remember at all... maybe someone does in the world... but they didn't reach our hinterland... I regularly check with our geneticists... alas and ah...

Ok, there will be ready bags for nets Lepstor just, and maybe not only bags, at the same time and you can test the bu.

- we are tired of fucking punching this order... for the third time... with the new rector... here they were forced to study occupational health and safety and suggested that for the university... nets for field practice are like a tool... they must be tested and reliable... we will now put pressure on this aspect. They say that since Soviet times they have not been purchased and everything has long since fallen into disrepair and is traumatic.
What material are your new test nets made of? I watch the material getting rougher and rougher for all manufacturers... I use old stocks of fine mill gas myself... lasts for 2-3 years... then it starts to lose its elasticity and get full of holes... Based on MANY years of practice, the net should be drop-shaped in the shape of the rim... and not round-duremarsky.

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06.02.2014 16:39, Peter Khramov

That's it. With a technical rag in the Russian Federation, there are terrible problems, it turns out. But still to the touch our softer now come out than the Sphinx / paradox. However, on the way there are still additional options for color/texture, as a result, we will choose from all possible the most-the most. But here are a few possible these ochenno still...
As for the form — everything is simple. Rims are now available only Sphinx rims. They are round. Accordingly, we will make compatible bags. There will be other rims — we will make other bags.

06.02.2014 18:34, feniks

And what's the difference between what rims, round or not? After all, it is only important that the perimeter coincides in length? Or am I wrong?

07.02.2014 0:03, Peter Khramov

And what's the difference between what rims, round or not? After all, it is only important that the perimeter coincides in length? Or am I wrong?
By the way, yes. Interesting question. For fixing to the rim, I think there is no difference, but for the shape of the entire remaining bag, maybe it will be.

Regarding micro-tubes: now I tried to attach a two-ruble test tube http://lepstore.ru/catalog/1584 on a stainless steel pin #3 just for the bend between the cork and the test tube. For me, everything is very normal, the test tube does not rotate around the pin and the lid of the test tube does not open. Who has such test tubes-try this option and unsubscribe pliz, whether everything works fine. If you don't have it, I can send it to you for free for the test, please contact us. If everything is confirmed, there will be a very affordable option for storing genitals and other fallen off paws.

07.02.2014 10:01, Penzyak

I've spent my entire life straightening butterflies with entomological pins # 3.. that they're Soviet... that they are imported... varnished ones were even preferable... but in recent years, they have begun to bend... what did the Czechs start producing in China??
And the point of buying such pins and for such a price is very surprising...?
http://lepstore.ru/catalog/s104

07.02.2014 17:21, Peter Khramov

These are really more expensive, but they do not bend and at the same time are sharp enough for straightening. Plus, their heads are slightly larger in diameter — convenient if you need to straighten a lot or if your fingers are just gentle. In fact, those with plastic heads may be even more comfortable, but they are more blunt, they are worse at straightening.

This post was edited by Asar - 07.02.2014 17: 21

08.02.2014 11:26, Penzyak

Stains... All 20 years of field work I use small glass jars from under conservation (as correctly imported) with a wide neck, round and the lid is iron with a rubberized inner part. The rubber layer during the field season is of course destroyed by the action of ethyl acetate vapors. And over the winter I collect new ones. Mayonnaise stelyanye 250 gr. cans are very good for night fishing-5-7 cans of different diameters work all night alternately....

The photo shows how a wide-necked jar collects insects in a net - so you will get tired of catching them... and you're talking about a narrow throat...

Therefore, it is very strange to see stains with a narrow throat and square... Plastic is probably good (it is not broken and easier), but it is not transparent, which is bad - after all, the transparency of the stain is also important for running fees, so as not to miss the moment and not soak fluffy objects of fees (for example, bees), and you can't drag a lot of stains with you! A square stain for nocturnal mottled butterflies is tin... they are still alive when they move very quickly inside the vessel along the wall...

http://lepstore.ru/catalog/s12

Yes, the question is-is there a special compact vessel/device in nature for storing ethyl acetate in the field and injecting it into the stain?? Previously, a cork lid was used with a small test tube built in from the inside - in which there was cotton wool soaked in poison... but such a unit is cumbersome to carry in the pockets of encephalitis. Yes, and the supply of poison must be transported in an unbreakable reliable container, and the plastic bursts... you need something special - with a reliable sealed lid and with replaceable gaskets inside the lid, which are very short-lived.

If manufacturers are interested in competent field testing of their products, the Penza branch of REO can try out (with a refund) their new equipment.

Secretary of the P. O. A. Department

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08.02.2014 12:12, Penzyak

In the photos, I think you comrades clearly see the advantage of the teardrop shape of the net (in terms of feeling and functionality, the net is an extension of the hand). And the area of "mowing" is higher than that of the "Durimar" round shape. I am especially interested in the presence of a plastic handle in a modern net - probably these show-offs are for weekend tourists... Anyone who carries a net (gun) in the fields for a long time knows how it is often carried-the hand is under the hoop (on the forearm) and how IMPORTANT IT IS to throw the net (raise the gun) palm-first for high-speed fixation and swing (emphasis on the shoulder and shot)!
About the dark color of the cap at the net, I generally keep silent-clean "sailboat" show-offs and nothing more. Sometimes on a white background and then not immediately see the object of fishing... and on the black one... ugh.
Diameter of the hoop net (by the way, a teardrop-shaped hoop also has a round net sewn) - here is a good example of a professional net and a student of the Soviet era of youthism. What would the NECESSARY TYPES of insects do not" disappear " - sometimes you have to literally dive into the net with your head... dodge evil wasps, bees and bloodthirsty mites...

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08.02.2014 12:57, Peter Khramov

The photo shows how a wide-necked jar collects insects in a net - so you will get tired of catching them... and you're talking about a narrow throat...
For me, this is also surprising, but for some reason people like to take stains with a very narrow throat (for example, these http://lepstore.ru/catalog/1581). Perhaps there are some special needs. I have them laid out as additional ones, but they are more popular than others...

Plastic is probably good (it is not broken and lighter), but it is not transparent and this is bad - after all, the transparency of the stain is also important for running fees
Transparency, as I understand it, is not always needed and not for everyone (compared to lightness and strength), but if there are plastic transparent options (or even glass ones) somewhere, we will have such options.

A square stain for nocturnal mottled butterflies is tin... they are still alive when they move very quickly inside the vessel along the wall...
Can I find out more here?.. I didn't quite understand the connection between fast movement and square walls.
Previously, a cork lid was used with a small test tube built in from the inside - in which there was cotton wool soaked in poison... but such a unit is cumbersome to carry in the pockets of encephalitis.
If I understood what I was talking about correctly, then in this model (unlike entosfinksovsky special traffic jams) everything is very cumbersome with poison in the lid: http://lepstore.ru/catalog/1687
As for the transfer of ethyl acetate itself, what is wrong with its usual packaging, since it will not have to be opened/closed very often?

If manufacturers are interested in competent field testing of their products, the Penza branch of REO can try out (with a refund) their new equipment.
Of course, they are interested, and in most cases it is possible and without refund. It will be necessary as a thread to call on this topic.

08.02.2014 13:05, Peter Khramov

I am especially interested in the presence of a plastic handle in a modern net - probably these show-offs are for weekend tourists... Anyone who carries a net (gun) in the fields for a long time knows how it is often carried-the hand is under the hoop (on the forearm) and how IMPORTANT IT IS to throw the net (raise the gun) palm-first for high-speed fixation and swing (emphasis on the shoulder and shot)!
So in this sense, plastic handles (if we are talking about black Entosfinks) are just a plus — they are folded/unfolded in one stroke without nuts for fixing, so when you carry them with your hand under the hoop, they can also be folded at the same time, because the unfolding takes place in one movement. Or did I get something wrong with throwing a net across the palm of my hand?..
About the dark color of the cap at the net, I generally keep silent-clean "sailboat" show-offs and nothing more. Sometimes on a white background and then not immediately see the object of fishing... and on the black one... ugh.
Dyk people are shy, too noticeable for the militant people around, when you wave a white net. Plus, they say that some species are afraid of white and not afraid of dark, but I didn't check it myself, I won't say 100%.
Diameter of the hoop net (by the way, a teardrop-shaped hoop also has a round net sewn) - here is a good example of a professional net and a student of the Soviet era of youthism. What would the NECESSARY TYPES of insects do not" disappear " - sometimes you have to literally dive into the net with your head... dodge evil wasps, bees and bloodthirsty mites...
It probably also depends a lot on what to catch and how. Bo if you chase the grandmother through the air, then it is somewhat different than putting bees with bedbugs in a bag and choosing from there the necessary companions for the collector...
But in general, large teardrop-shaped rims are needed, of course. If we do it ourselves, then not only round ones will be available.

08.02.2014 18:23, Bad Den

Do not soak fluffy objects (such as bees).

For bees, these specialists use dry "cyanuses"

08.02.2014 23:25, lepidopterolog

For bees, these specialists use dry "cyanuses"

For pigeons (and in general all small gentle pubescent creatures) they are also perfect.

09.02.2014 10:38, Bad Den

For pigeons (and in general all small gentle pubescent creatures) they are also perfect.

Pigeons are pinned down with their fingers in a net?

09.02.2014 12:46, lepidopterolog

Fingers are not always quick to grab and press down, and as a result, butterflies with bare breasts are obtained. When catching some Apharitis and other caudates, you can't do without staining, these Polyommatinae are usually more or less calm. The same goes for thickheads.
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09.02.2014 16:50, Victor Gazanchidis

For bees, these specialists use dry "cyanuses"

Yes, a great thing for night fishing. We took her from the screen butterflies in the pouring rain in Primorye. It worked perfectly while the nets were still wet. Does anyone know where to buy them? I heard something about them being banned.

09.02.2014 17:41, Peter Khramov

Show me what this miracle looks like...

09.02.2014 17:50, AGG

"cyanide" is a good thing, but the money from it gets too thick if you overdo it - you need experience + the material is not suitable for gene analysis (if I'm not mistaken). the last one that I used was given to me by Antonova in the early 2000s, they were already banned. Right now I'd love to take a couple of fresh ones shuffle.gif

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09.02.2014 17:54, AGG

Show me what this miracle looks like...

from what I talked to - a jar of cucumbers/mayonnaise and so on and so on at the bottom of a layer of wax/paraffin in which a few cyanide crystals are added. the season is open wink.gif
I don't know exactly what class of danger this poison belongs to, but it has always and everywhere been banned. It smells very nice, but I don't recommend sticking your nose too deep wink.gif
I suggest that everyone who wants to extract cyanide on the spot from mottled wink.gif lol.gifflowers (joke) pages from the workshop on the analysis of the cyanogroup will be sent to "soap", and then suddenly false mottled flowers turn up lol.gif

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