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Pheosia tremula (Clerck, 1759)

Dilute the wings with pebbles

I want to correct myself:
SVM has a nominative subspecies

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Pheosia gnoma (Fabricius, 1776)
It is widespread in the European part and in the Urals.

Pasha, you think we're in trouble. Siberia doesn't have gnoma, but it does have rimosa?

Pasha, you think we're in trouble. Siberia doesn't have gnoma, but it does have rimosa?

Slava, I have a couple of copies from you.
I think they are more like remosa. If Clostera albosigma lives in your area, then the presence of Pheosia rimosa is quite logical.
But still, I'm a little doubtful.
The study of preimaginal phases could have put all the dots on the I's.

Slava, I have a couple of copies from you.
I think they are more like remosa. If Clostera albosigma lives in your area, then the presence of Pheosia rimosa is quite logical.
But still, I'm a little doubtful.
The study of the preimaginal phases could have put all the dots on the I's.

You can view genitals

Here, butterflies from four locations, all male.
1-M. O., exactly P. gnoma
2-Omsk region
3-Western Kazakhstan
4-Primorye, exactly P. rimosa

Visually, the gnomes are only Moscow ones. Well, I'll have to check my genitals.

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Can I see your genitals

need it!

Here, butterflies from four locations, all male.
1-M. O., exactly P. gnoma
2-Omsk region
3-Western Kazakhstan
4-Primorye, exactly P. rimosa

Visually, the gnomes are only Moscow ones. Well, I'll have to check my genitals.

You can work on Pheosia to do. I have a small amount of Chinese material.

and it can be

I just now stand in the brew 4 copies. Omsk Pheosia (I think I'll cook it tomorrow). There is also material from the Eastern Sayan (there it is probably rimosa). I'll cook them then, too. so let's check it out.

I made it. Here's what happened...

The first tremula without a doubt, everything is clear and precise here, we forget about it.
the last one is from the Eastern Sayan according to the idea of rimosa.
two in the middle ?gnomes from the Omsk region.
In the book by A. Schintlmeister, the differences between gnoma and rimosa are indicated by different caterpillars (in the text), and differences in the structure of the aedeagus (in the figures).
So far, I haven't made any final conclusions. I think we still need to cook, see what will happen in the series. It is also necessary to compare with the European gnoma.
As far as I know, Schintlmeister is also currently working on this issue, so if there are plans to make some kind of publication on Pheosia, you need to discuss it with him so as not to cut each other off.

Gnoma near Moscow.

Gnoma near Moscow.

well, it doesn't differ from Omsk...
I sent my photos to the Schintlmeister. Let's see what the guru says

This post was edited by Konung-10.03.2013 13: 32

well, it doesn't differ from Omsk...
I sent my photos to the Schintlmeister. Let's see what the guru says

Instead of a photo, he should have sent a PDF of his article on feoztyam to

Instead of a photo, he should have sent a PDF of his article on feoztyam

as I have already written, he also deals with this problem, so we should not overlap each other's data. He has a faunal article that lists my phaeosias.

   as I have already written, he also deals with this problem, so we should not overlap each other's data. He has a faunal article that lists my phaeosias.

There is no such kind or even specific group that someone, somewhere does not deal with.

There is no such kind or even specific group that someone, somewhere does not deal with.

I mean exactly the problem of Omsk Pheosia

I mean exactly the problem of Omsk Pheosia

You know best.

Well, yes, it's a little early to draw conclusions, but it's getting warmer in favor of all three species living in the Omsk region.

I made it. Here's what happened...
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The first tremula without a doubt, everything is clear and precise here, we forget about it.
the last one is from the Eastern Sayan according to the idea of rimosa.
two in the middle ?gnomes from the Omsk region.
In the book by A. Schintlmeister, the differences between gnoma and rimosa are indicated by different caterpillars (in the text), and differences in the structure of the aedeagus (in the figures).
So far, I haven't made any final conclusions. I think we still need to cook, see what will happen in the series. It is also necessary to compare with the European gnoma.
As far as I know, Schintlmeister is also currently working on this issue, so if there are plans to make some kind of publication on Pheosia, you need to discuss it with him so as not to cut each other off.

I think the last three are a single view. I didn't see any differences in the genitals, and the slightly different configurations of individual elements are clearly variable.

my personal opinion:
tremula-gnome - gnome-remosa
I am skeptical that a species with an initially sino-pacific range reaches Omsk.

And what does Schintlmeister write about this?
On the map of the area of the gnome, the easternmost point is in the Urals, and the westernmost point is at the rimosa in Western Siberia. In the pictures, the species ' ranges do not overlap (the picture is not a criterion).
Photos of genitals are provided, explanations are provided in the text.
I'll translate:
1. The gnome's unkus is generally slightly shorter and more rounded than that of the remosa (in fact, a "weak" sign)
2. the spikes on the dwarf's valvae are more subtle (this is not shown in the text, but it is visually noticeable)
3. There are slightly more differences in the structure of the aedeagus. Aedeagus phaeosius is usually "fork-like". In the gnome, this" fork " is narrowed compared to the remosa.

So, my opinion is that in the pictures of Glory butterflies are as follows-tremula-gnome-remosa-remosa.

By the way, the Japanese subspecies P. rimosa fusiformis differs from the nominative more strongly in genitalia than the nominative rimosa itself differs from gnomes.
They also differ greatly in appearance.

Dr-Cold,
and if you ask Slava in the summer to capture a female alive?
A lot of difficulties are killed here.
And in general, the advantages for the Russian Remoza become known, and specifically the advantages for the Omsk region, and questions may be removed - or, on the contrary, they may get up.
Not at hand W, and where is remosa described?

Dr-Cold,
and if you ask Slava in the summer to capture a female alive?
A lot of difficulties are killed here.
And in general, the advantages for the Russian Remoza become known, and specifically the advantages for the Omsk region, and questions may be removed - or, on the contrary, they may get up.
Not at hand W, and where is remosa described?

This is the best option.
The more females, the better.

Remosa described (Vadim Viktorovich, don't laugh) from the USA, Newport

the third instance is some kind of transition from gnoma to rimosa... let's try to take the female, see what happens.

The genus Harpyia Ochsenheimer, 1810 includes at least 15 species distributed in Eurasia and North Africa.
Many harpies are mistakenly called tufts of the genus Cerura and Furcula. Trophically, harpies are related to various oak species. Some species have a very narrow range. In Europe, there is a single but fairly widespread species with an expanding range – H. milhauseri.
The main info is from Schintlmeister’08.
There will be a lot of photos and letters.

Harpyia milhauseri (Fabricius, 1775)
Top – male, M. O., Lyuberetsky district, leg. KAZAXA
- male, Crimea, leg. okoem
Distribution – almost all of Europe except the north, Asia Minor, Middle East. Caterpillar on oak, sometimes on beech. Thermophilic view. In the south of the range, it gives two generations. In Europe, it has become quite frequent in urban parks (A. Schintlmeister). In the European part, it is more common in the south. It was previously known from the Southern Prioksky districts, but now it is also collected further north – in the Lyuberetsky district, on Ukhtomka, and even near Filevsky Park.

This post was edited by Morozzz - 27.05.2013 13: 54

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Harpyia umbrosa (Staudinger, 1892)
Male – Primorye, Khasansky district, leg. Cajarc
Female-Primorye, Khasansky district, leg. Morozzz
is a Far Eastern milhauseri vicariate, only larger and darker. Pretty common. In addition to the Amur region and Primorye, it flies to Korea, China and Japan.

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Harpyia umbrosa ginkakuji Schintlmeister, 2008
Male – Kunashir Island.
Kuril-Japanese subspecies.

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Harpyia powelli (Oberthür, 1912)
Male,
Very Small species. It is endemic to North Africa.

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Harpyia asymmetria Schintlmeister & Fang, 2001
Male, Central China, Shaanxi, leg. V. Sinyaev
Unique species. In males, the right valva is always strongly reduced. Hence the name. The dimensions are also small - 40 mm in span.
One of the rarest species of the genus, endemic to the mountains of Central China.

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Harpyia tokui (Sugi, 1977)
Male, Central China, Shaanxi, leg. V. Sinyaev
Previously cajarc exhibited specimens from Primorye (even a female!!!)
Also a very interesting butterfly and quite rare. It was described with a very short delay by Chistyakov under the name H. monochroma in the same year. However, Sugi was faster.
It flies in spring and is local. Years are very short – just a few days, which is why it is quite rare in collections.
It lives in Primorye, is known from Korea and a couple of places in China. In Japan, there is only on the island of Tsushima, from where Sugi was described.

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Harpyia microsticta Hampson, 1893
Male nominate subspecies, Bhutan, leg.
male subspecies baibarana (Matsumura, 1929) - China, Sichuan
In the western Himalayas-subspecies dicyma, Wiltshire, 1958, characterized by a more pronounced black pattern.
East of the Himalayas, in China and Taiwan, the subspecies baibarana (Matsumura, 1927).
The species is widely distributed in the eastern half of Asia, but rarely occurs. There are several other very similar species on the Sunda Islands.

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And now the most "delicious things"
Harpyia longipennis (Walker, 1855)
Previously, it was considered as a widespread polymorphic species. Moreover, it was even separated into a separate genus – Damata Walker, 1855. In principle, it would be possible to distinguish, but the caterpillars are not at all different from those of other harpies. This was found out by Japanese researchers, and A. Schintlmeister combined Damata and Harpyia.
Now, thanks to recent work, these butterflies can be considered as a whole complex of species, also divided into two groups: silver-white butterflies that fly in summer and pinkish ones that fly in autumn. Mountain types associated with oak forests. Females are rare. The size of the largest among the harpies - 70 mm in span.
Vadim Viktorovich and his student were of great help in this work. In which I am very grateful to them.

Actually, Harpyia longipennis (Walker, 1855)
Male, Bhutan, leg. V. Sinyaev
flies in summer, occasionally in winter at altitudes of 2000-3000 m in the eastern part of the Himalayas. Interesting is the taxon D. longipennis japona Bryk, 1949, which is described from Indian material, but the label is "Japan". After checking the genitalia of a typical specimen, it turned out to be a typical longipennis. Mixed up, probably. Moreover, this species has not been collected for a long time in Japan. It is worth considering that the Japanese archipelago is very well studied.

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Harpyia nadiae Morozov, 2013
Male, paratype, China, Sichuan, leg. S. Murzin
is known from the mountains of Southern China and Northern Vietnam (Fansipan). It also flies mostly in summer at least 1500 m. Externally, it is almost identical to longipennis, but in the series nadiae has a noticeable yellowish tint, the forewing is more elongated, females with a more pronounced dark pattern. By genitalia, the species differ very well and reliably.
The range is wide, but broken. Analysis of the genitalic structure of specimens from SW, C, and SE China and Vietnam did not reveal any differences.

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Another group of the complex is characterized by a more or less pronounced pinkish tint of the background of the forewings, as well as a different structure of the genitals. They fly in the fall.
Here, the first of them is Harpyia roseata (Gaede, 1930)
Top – male, Nepal, leg. N. Ivshyn
Bottom-male, Pakistan, leg. V. Gurko
was originally described as a form of longipennis. It flies in autumn from September to November in the Himalayas from Pakistan to Bhutan at altitudes from 2000 m.

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Another autumn species is Harpyia yunnanensis Schintlmeister & Fang, 2001
Male-S. Thailand, leg. N. Ivshin
Female-Laos, leg. V. Sinyaev
was initially described as a subspecies of longipennis, however, butterflies of different species were found in the type series, which probably led to the species being considered polymorphic.
Later, another subspecies roseata was described from Northern Thailand, but it was identical in genitals and appearance to yunnanensis.
The species flies in autumn in the mountains of north-eastern India (Arunachal Pradesh), South China, North Thailand and Laos. It also reaches the north of Vietnam.

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Harpyia formosicola (Matsumura, 1929)
The male, Taiwan Island
endemic to Taiwan, flies in the fall. The most studied type of complex. It was considered both as a subspecies and as a species, then again as a subspecies due to the "polymorphism of the genitals" of mainland butterflies.
Namely, when studying its caterpillars, it was found that they do not differ from the caterpillars of the genus Harpyia.

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Harpyia pichugini Morozov, 2013
Top – male, paratype, SE China, leg. V. Sinyaev
Bottom-male, paratype, SE Vietnam, leg. V. Zolotukhin
is known so far from 10-12 specimens (type series - 8 ex). No females have been collected yet. It lives in several isolated areas of South China, North Vietnam and Laos, where it flies together with H. yunnanensis. Also an autumnal look.
I want to note that the top copy I have already exhibited here under the name longipennis.

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Genus Harpyia Ochsenheimer

In Thailand, such people flew to the light. Because of the structure of the antennae (it seemed very unusual to me) I stubbornly wanted to classify them as cossides