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25.02.2013 23:03, Pavel Morozov

How do intermedia and vinula differ?

Vinula has a more pronounced dark wavy pattern. In females, the hindwings are usually dark.
intermedia is larger, lighter, with always well-defined black spots on the basal band. The dark wavy pattern is less pronounced. Females have light grey hindwings.
According to A. Schintlmeister, their eggs also differ.

In short, in the series you need to watch. Better yet, dissect the genitals.
Schintlmeister's genitals are no longer so clear. The author writes that the differences are quite small, but the two species differ well in the structure of the uncus, however, the male's genitals are not illustrated. Vinula, in general, has a polymorphism of the genitals. What can come out of it? only that this group requires more in-depth study.

It is possible that it will turn out that all this, together with the Central Asian ones, will turn out to be one type. (I think it is)

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25.02.2013 23:27, okoem

It is possible that it will turn out that all this, together with the Central Asian ones, will turn out to be one type. (I think it is)

Thank you for your clarification!
The first impression is exactly this-one view. However, it would be nice to look at the eggs and caterpillars.
Can anyone share a copy of the work?:

Daricheva M. A., Dolinskaya I. V. 1983. Morphology of preimaginal developmental phases of the intermediate harpy Cerura vinula intermedia Teich. (Lepidoptera, Notodontidae) / / Proceedings of the Academy of Sciences of the Turkmen SSR, No. 5, pp. 74-77.

By the way, from the name it turns out that previously intermedia was considered a subspecies of vinula. And who raised the status to view and when?

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25.02.2013 23:49, Pavel Morozov

Here, I would also read this work.
According to Schintlmeister, Cerura intermedia (Teich, 1896) was described as an independent species: Harpyia intermedia.

The structure of the eggs shows the following differences: "they are very different from those of vinula, but they are more similar to erminea eggs - not concave and with a yellow equator, which is typical of erminea as a pax" (Schintlmeister, 2008)

But the work of Daricheva and Dolinskaya, if published in the Turkmen SSR, could be devoted to material from Turkmenistan, where other species fly from this complex-C. hreblayi Schintlmeister, 2008 and C. viidaleppi Schintlmeister, 2008 (according to Schintlmeister, 2008).

yeah, a complicated group. or a very simple one.

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08.03.2013 22:48, Pavel Morozov

Pheosia rimosa Packard, 1864
Transgolarctic species. In the Palearctic, it lives in its eastern part-from the west to the south. From Siberia to Sakhalin, the Kuril Islands, and Japan. It is also available in Kamchatka. To the south, it reaches the mountains of South China, where it can meet with three other phaeosias. It differs well from gnomes in its caterpillar pattern (Schintlmeister, 1984).
The first photo shows a male from Primorye, a female from Central China, Qin-Lin.
On the second - a couple from the island of Iturup. Kuril-Sakhalin butterflies are superficially similar to the Japanese subspecies Pheosia rimosa fusiformis Matsumura, 1921

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picture: Pheosia_rimosa.JPG